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Umbire the Phantom: /* Dragon-Babysitting segment from the Knight article */

2021-03-16T02:16:06Z

‎Dragon-Babysitting segment from the Knight article

Umbire the Phantom: /* Dragon-Babysitting segment from the Knight article */

2021-03-01T03:03:53Z

‎Dragon-Babysitting segment from the Knight article

Umbire the Phantom: /* Dragon-Babysitting segment from the Knight article */

2021-03-01T02:48:23Z

‎Dragon-Babysitting segment from the Knight article

Testbutt: /* Dragon-Babysitting segment from the Knight article */ new section

2021-02-17T08:57:09Z

‎Dragon-Babysitting segment from the Knight article: new section

Netzhack: /* Unclear Wording: Note 4, disintegration + amulet of LS */ new section

2017-11-18T12:30:24Z

‎Unclear Wording: Note 4, disintegration + amulet of LS: new section

174.1.76.168 at 05:53, 20 December 2013

2013-12-20T05:53:14Z

Bulwersator: /* Dragon Names in UnNethack */ reply

2013-06-01T08:11:57Z

‎Dragon Names in UnNethack: reply

Tjr: /* Dragon Names in UnNethack */

2013-06-01T08:06:12Z

‎Dragon Names in UnNethack

Wolfwood: /* Dragon Names in UnNethack */

2012-06-11T01:48:44Z

‎Dragon Names in UnNethack

Bhaak: /* Dragon Names in UnNethack */

2012-06-10T20:32:55Z

‎Dragon Names in UnNethack

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	:Sounds good to me, I'd see about putting it here since it's dragon-specific strategy. EDIT: Maybe also tailor the Knight's strategy section to reflect actual gameplay rather than being entirely steed-centered while we're at it. --[[User:Umbire the Phantom\|Umbire the Phantom]] ([[User talk:Umbire the Phantom\|talk]]) 03:03, 1 March 2021 (UTC)		:Sounds good to me, I'd see about putting it here since it's dragon-specific strategy. EDIT: Maybe also tailor the Knight's strategy section to reflect actual gameplay rather than being entirely steed-centered while we're at it. --[[User:Umbire the Phantom\|Umbire the Phantom]] ([[User talk:Umbire the Phantom\|talk]]) 03:03, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
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		+	::And scrape that last part, it's been done! Bare minimum there's a solid-ass foundation for experienced Knight players to build on. --[[User:Umbire the Phantom\|Umbire the Phantom]] ([[User talk:Umbire the Phantom\|talk]]) 02:15, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

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 == Dragon-Babysitting segment from the Knight article ==
-Cleaned up the Knight page by removing a very dubious and wordy section. Taming, raising, and riding a dragon may be of interest to dawdlers and roleplayers, so perhaps the text ( visible at this diff: https://nethackwiki.com/mediawiki/index.php?diff=137974&oldid=136423&rcid=88420 ) can be repurposed here on the Dragon article, or in the [[Riding]] article. It should not be general advice for knights, as it will waste tons of time without contributing greatly to the player's survival, and other roles can choose to play petless if they really want to bank on '''''finding dragon eggs''''' and babysitting the baby dragon until it is rideable and/or dead. [[User:Testbutt|Testbutt]] ([[User talk:Testbutt|talk]]) 08:57, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
+Cleaned up the Knight page by removing a very dubious and wordy section. Taming, raising, and riding a dragon may be of interest to dawdlers and roleplayers, so perhaps the text (visible at this diff: https://nethackwiki.com/mediawiki/index.php?diff=137974&oldid=136423&rcid=88420) can be repurposed here on the Dragon article, or in the [[Riding]] article. It should not be general advice for knights, as it will waste tons of time without contributing greatly to the player's survival, and other roles can choose to play petless if they really want to bank on '''''finding dragon eggs''''' and babysitting the baby dragon until it is rideable and/or dead. [[User:Testbutt|Testbutt]] ([[User talk:Testbutt|talk]]) 08:57, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
-:Sounds good to me, I'd see about putting it here since it's dragon-specific strategy. --[[User:Umbire the Phantom|Umbire the Phantom]] ([[User talk:Umbire the Phantom|talk]]) 02:48, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
+:Sounds good to me, I'd see about putting it here since it's dragon-specific strategy. EDIT: Maybe also tailor the Knight's strategy section to reflect actual gameplay rather than being entirely steed-centered while we're at it. --[[User:Umbire the Phantom|Umbire the Phantom]] ([[User talk:Umbire the Phantom|talk]]) 03:03, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

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	Cleaned up the Knight page by removing a very dubious and wordy section. Taming, raising, and riding a dragon may be of interest to dawdlers and roleplayers, so perhaps the text ( visible at this diff: https://nethackwiki.com/mediawiki/index.php?diff=137974&oldid=136423&rcid=88420 ) can be repurposed here on the Dragon article, or in the [[Riding]] article. It should not be general advice for knights, as it will waste tons of time without contributing greatly to the player's survival, and other roles can choose to play petless if they really want to bank on '''''finding dragon eggs''''' and babysitting the baby dragon until it is rideable and/or dead. [[User:Testbutt\|Testbutt]] ([[User talk:Testbutt\|talk]]) 08:57, 17 February 2021 (UTC)		Cleaned up the Knight page by removing a very dubious and wordy section. Taming, raising, and riding a dragon may be of interest to dawdlers and roleplayers, so perhaps the text ( visible at this diff: https://nethackwiki.com/mediawiki/index.php?diff=137974&oldid=136423&rcid=88420 ) can be repurposed here on the Dragon article, or in the [[Riding]] article. It should not be general advice for knights, as it will waste tons of time without contributing greatly to the player's survival, and other roles can choose to play petless if they really want to bank on '''''finding dragon eggs''''' and babysitting the baby dragon until it is rideable and/or dead. [[User:Testbutt\|Testbutt]] ([[User talk:Testbutt\|talk]]) 08:57, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
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		+	:Sounds good to me, I'd see about putting it here since it's dragon-specific strategy. --[[User:Umbire the Phantom\|Umbire the Phantom]] ([[User talk:Umbire the Phantom\|talk]]) 02:48, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

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	What is "it"? Can't be referring to the amulet; objects don't die. Please write out whatever the pronoun stands for. [[User:Netzhack\|Netzhack]] ([[User talk:Netzhack\|talk]]) 12:30, 18 November 2017 (UTC)		What is "it"? Can't be referring to the amulet; objects don't die. Please write out whatever the pronoun stands for. [[User:Netzhack\|Netzhack]] ([[User talk:Netzhack\|talk]]) 12:30, 18 November 2017 (UTC)
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		+	== Dragon-Babysitting segment from the Knight article ==
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		+	Cleaned up the Knight page by removing a very dubious and wordy section. Taming, raising, and riding a dragon may be of interest to dawdlers and roleplayers, so perhaps the text ( visible at this diff: https://nethackwiki.com/mediawiki/index.php?diff=137974&oldid=136423&rcid=88420 ) can be repurposed here on the Dragon article, or in the [[Riding]] article. It should not be general advice for knights, as it will waste tons of time without contributing greatly to the player's survival, and other roles can choose to play petless if they really want to bank on '''''finding dragon eggs''''' and babysitting the baby dragon until it is rideable and/or dead. [[User:Testbutt\|Testbutt]] ([[User talk:Testbutt\|talk]]) 08:57, 17 February 2021 (UTC)

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	==Dragon Icons==		==Dragon Icons==
	The pictures of the vanilla dragons include an extra dragon (shimmering?). Can someone fix that? --[[Special:Contributions/174.1.76.168\|174.1.76.168]] 05:53, 20 December 2013 (UTC)		The pictures of the vanilla dragons include an extra dragon (shimmering?). Can someone fix that? --[[Special:Contributions/174.1.76.168\|174.1.76.168]] 05:53, 20 December 2013 (UTC)
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		+	== Unclear Wording: Note 4, disintegration + amulet of LS ==
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		+	The note says: "Corner case: an amulet of life saving is never destroyed by the blast, but it does not die instead of an undead or non-living monster. This case can only arise if a living monster wearing an amulet has been polymorphed."
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		+	What is "it"? Can't be referring to the amulet; objects don't die. Please write out whatever the pronoun stands for. [[User:Netzhack\|Netzhack]] ([[User talk:Netzhack\|talk]]) 12:30, 18 November 2017 (UTC)

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	::If you have seen a lindworm breathe frost in your game, do you then know that every lindworm is a "white dragon"? Can you then wish for cold dragon scales? Once you know that this particular dragon is a lindworm and breathes frost, can you then see whether another dragon individual is a lindworm, or do you need to identify each individual separately? --[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] ([[User talk:Tjr\|talk]]) 08:06, 1 June 2013 (UTC)		::If you have seen a lindworm breathe frost in your game, do you then know that every lindworm is a "white dragon"? Can you then wish for cold dragon scales? Once you know that this particular dragon is a lindworm and breathes frost, can you then see whether another dragon individual is a lindworm, or do you need to identify each individual separately? --[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] ([[User talk:Tjr\|talk]]) 08:06, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
	:::"If you have seen a lindworm breathe frost in your game, do you then know that every lindworm is a "white dragon"?" - yes, for this game. "Can you then wish for cold dragon scales?" - yes, but wishing for unidentified scales/scale mail will produce random DSM. "Once you know that this particular dragon is a lindworm and breathes frost, can you then see whether another dragon individual is a lindworm" - yes, it is name of monster type [[User:Bulwersator\|Bulwersator]] ([[User talk:Bulwersator\|talk]]) 08:11, 1 June 2013 (UTC)		:::"If you have seen a lindworm breathe frost in your game, do you then know that every lindworm is a "white dragon"?" - yes, for this game. "Can you then wish for cold dragon scales?" - yes, but wishing for unidentified scales/scale mail will produce random DSM. "Once you know that this particular dragon is a lindworm and breathes frost, can you then see whether another dragon individual is a lindworm" - yes, it is name of monster type [[User:Bulwersator\|Bulwersator]] ([[User talk:Bulwersator\|talk]]) 08:11, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
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		+	==Dragon Icons==
		+	The pictures of the vanilla dragons include an extra dragon (shimmering?). Can someone fix that? --[[Special:Contributions/174.1.76.168\|174.1.76.168]] 05:53, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

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	::If you have seen a lindworm breathe frost in your game, do you then know that every lindworm is a "white dragon"? Can you then wish for cold dragon scales? Once you know that this particular dragon is a lindworm and breathes frost, can you then see whether another dragon individual is a lindworm, or do you need to identify each individual separately? --[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] ([[User talk:Tjr\|talk]]) 08:06, 1 June 2013 (UTC)		::If you have seen a lindworm breathe frost in your game, do you then know that every lindworm is a "white dragon"? Can you then wish for cold dragon scales? Once you know that this particular dragon is a lindworm and breathes frost, can you then see whether another dragon individual is a lindworm, or do you need to identify each individual separately? --[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] ([[User talk:Tjr\|talk]]) 08:06, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
		+	:::"If you have seen a lindworm breathe frost in your game, do you then know that every lindworm is a "white dragon"?" - yes, for this game. "Can you then wish for cold dragon scales?" - yes, but wishing for unidentified scales/scale mail will produce random DSM. "Once you know that this particular dragon is a lindworm and breathes frost, can you then see whether another dragon individual is a lindworm" - yes, it is name of monster type [[User:Bulwersator\|Bulwersator]] ([[User talk:Bulwersator\|talk]]) 08:11, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

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	: Dragon armor have now an unidentified (e.g. "wyvern dragon scales") and an identified name like "cold dragon scales". You can wish for scales with non-magical wishes, as they are as in vanilla, but only if you have identified the dragon armor you will get what you wished for. But there are "gold dragon scales" which seem to be the favorite wish in UnNetHack. --[[User:Bhaak\|Bhaak]] ([[User talk:Bhaak\|talk]]) 20:32, 10 June 2012 (UTC)		: Dragon armor have now an unidentified (e.g. "wyvern dragon scales") and an identified name like "cold dragon scales". You can wish for scales with non-magical wishes, as they are as in vanilla, but only if you have identified the dragon armor you will get what you wished for. But there are "gold dragon scales" which seem to be the favorite wish in UnNetHack. --[[User:Bhaak\|Bhaak]] ([[User talk:Bhaak\|talk]]) 20:32, 10 June 2012 (UTC)
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		+	::If you have seen a lindworm breathe frost in your game, do you then know that every lindworm is a "white dragon"? Can you then wish for cold dragon scales? Once you know that this particular dragon is a lindworm and breathes frost, can you then see whether another dragon individual is a lindworm, or do you need to identify each individual separately? --[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] ([[User talk:Tjr\|talk]]) 08:06, 1 June 2013 (UTC)

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 So I am going to try and create a list of the dragon names in UnNethack
 I haven't associated them with there type yet.
 *tatzelworm
 *chromatic dragon breathes acid

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	Oh I feel sorta stupid now. How do you go about wishing for scales? I haven't gotten a "true" wish yet. Do you have to ask for "draken scale armor" or how does that work?[[User:Wolfwood\|Wolfwood]] ([[User talk:Wolfwood\|talk]]) 20:23, 10 June 2012 (UTC) Might as well keep the list just so there is a list of the dragon names.		Oh I feel sorta stupid now. How do you go about wishing for scales? I haven't gotten a "true" wish yet. Do you have to ask for "draken scale armor" or how does that work?[[User:Wolfwood\|Wolfwood]] ([[User talk:Wolfwood\|talk]]) 20:23, 10 June 2012 (UTC) Might as well keep the list just so there is a list of the dragon names.
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		+	: Dragon armor have now an unidentified (e.g. "wyvern dragon scales") and an identified name like "cold dragon scales". You can wish for scales with non-magical wishes, as they are as in vanilla, but only if you have identified the dragon armor you will get what you wished for. But there are "gold dragon scales" which seem to be the favorite wish in UnNetHack. --[[User:Bhaak\|Bhaak]] ([[User talk:Bhaak\|talk]]) 20:32, 10 June 2012 (UTC)