Talk:Encumbrance - Revision history

WarriorX90: /* Do you have to move to exercise strength when stressed? */

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Do you have to move to exercise strength when stressed?

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	== Do you have to move to exercise strength when stressed? ==		== Do you have to move to exercise strength when stressed? ==

	Can you just rest or search or #sit or do you actually have to move from the current tile?		Can you just rest or search or #sit or do you actually have to move from the current tile? [[User:WarriorX90\|WarriorX90]] ([[User talk:WarriorX90\|talk]]) 13:17, 31 October 2017 (UTC)

WarriorX90: /* Do you have to move to exercise strength when stressed? */ new section

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Do you have to move to exercise strength when stressed?: new section

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	::Would you mind correcting all the other places? [[strength]], [[damage]], ... come to mind. ---[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] 10:05, 19 August 2011 (UTC)		::Would you mind correcting all the other places? [[strength]], [[damage]], ... come to mind. ---[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] 10:05, 19 August 2011 (UTC)
	:::Not a problem! I updated the [[strength]] section of [[attribute]]; it seems the same strength mapping formula is used to determine range of thrown objects. I also found another difference between 18/** and 25 that the article didn't mention. The damage table was correct, so there's nothing to change here. --[[User:Erica\|Erica]] 04:24, 20 August 2011 (UTC)		:::Not a problem! I updated the [[strength]] section of [[attribute]]; it seems the same strength mapping formula is used to determine range of thrown objects. I also found another difference between 18/** and 25 that the article didn't mention. The damage table was correct, so there's nothing to change here. --[[User:Erica\|Erica]] 04:24, 20 August 2011 (UTC)

			== Do you have to move to exercise strength when stressed? ==

			Can you just rest or search or #sit or do you actually have to move from the current tile?

Erica at 04:24, 20 August 2011

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	:You're right, thanks for correcting me. --[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] 09:35, 19 August 2011 (UTC)		:You're right, thanks for correcting me. --[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] 09:35, 19 August 2011 (UTC)
	::Would you mind correcting all the other places? [[strength]], [[damage]], ... come to mind. ---[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] 10:05, 19 August 2011 (UTC)		::Would you mind correcting all the other places? [[strength]], [[damage]], ... come to mind. ---[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] 10:05, 19 August 2011 (UTC)
			:::Not a problem! I updated the [[strength]] section of [[attribute]]; it seems the same strength mapping formula is used to determine range of thrown objects. I also found another difference between 18/** and 25 that the article didn't mention. The damage table was correct, so there's nothing to change here. --[[User:Erica\|Erica]] 04:24, 20 August 2011 (UTC)

Tjr: /* Strength in Encumbrance formula */

2011-08-19T10:05:16Z

Strength in Encumbrance formula

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	:You're right, thanks for correcting me. --[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] 09:35, 19 August 2011 (UTC)		:You're right, thanks for correcting me. --[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] 09:35, 19 August 2011 (UTC)
			::Would you mind correcting all the other places? [[strength]], [[damage]], ... come to mind. ---[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] 10:05, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

Tjr: thanks

2011-08-19T09:35:55Z

thanks

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	--[[User:Erica\|Erica]] 08:18, 19 August 2011 (UTC)		--[[User:Erica\|Erica]] 08:18, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

			:You're right, thanks for correcting me. --[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] 09:35, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

Erica: explanation for my earlier change

2011-08-19T08:18:23Z

explanation for my earlier change

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	::Thanks, updated the article. --[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] 18:25, 18 May 2011 (UTC)		::Thanks, updated the article. --[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] 18:25, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

			== Strength in Encumbrance formula ==

			The encumbrance formula maps your strength to 19 + str / 50.<br />
			However, a strength of 18/n is represented internally by str = 18 + n.<br />
			This means that a strength of 18/31 is represented by str = 49, which maps to 19 + 49/50 -> 19.<br />
			But a strength of 18/32 is represented by str = 50, which maps to 19 + 50/50 -> 20.<br />
			So the cutoff point is really 18/31 versus 18/32.<br />
			(I checked in wizard mode, and the same inventory with a total weight of 996 made me unburdened with strength 18/32 but burdened with strength 18/31 (constitution 18).

			--[[User:Erica\|Erica]] 08:18, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

Tjr: done

2011-05-18T18:25:36Z

done

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	How much can a polymorphed player carry? A table with popular polyforms would be great. (Master mind flayer, minotaur, vampire lord, jabberwock, arch-lich, tengu, silver dragon) --[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]]		How much can a polymorphed player carry? A table with popular polyforms would be great. (Master mind flayer, minotaur, vampire lord, jabberwock, arch-lich, tengu, silver dragon) --[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]]
	:[[Source:Hack.c#line2162]]. Non-strong monsters that weigh less than human are scaled based on their weight. There's no automatic benefit to being a strong or large monster, but a strong monster will get 18/ strength as well. Nymphs also have 1000 carrying capacity always. Arch liches end up with ~90% capacity, tengu seem to get around 20%, and everyone else you mentioned is strong and thus has no penalty, only the 18/ bonus. -- [[User:Qazmlpok\|Qazmlpok]] 16:54, 18 May 2011 (UTC)		:[[Source:Hack.c#line2162]]. Non-strong monsters that weigh less than human are scaled based on their weight. There's no automatic benefit to being a strong or large monster, but a strong monster will get 18/ strength as well. Nymphs also have 1000 carrying capacity always. Arch liches end up with ~90% capacity, tengu seem to get around 20%, and everyone else you mentioned is strong and thus has no penalty, only the 18/ bonus. -- [[User:Qazmlpok\|Qazmlpok]] 16:54, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

			::Thanks, updated the article. --[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] 18:25, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

Qazmlpok: /* polyself */

2011-05-18T16:54:20Z

polyself

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	How much can a polymorphed player carry? A table with popular polyforms would be great. (Master mind flayer, minotaur, vampire lord, jabberwock, arch-lich, tengu, silver dragon) --[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]]		How much can a polymorphed player carry? A table with popular polyforms would be great. (Master mind flayer, minotaur, vampire lord, jabberwock, arch-lich, tengu, silver dragon) --[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]]
			:[[Source:Hack.c#line2162]]. Non-strong monsters that weigh less than human are scaled based on their weight. There's no automatic benefit to being a strong or large monster, but a strong monster will get 18/ strength as well. Nymphs also have 1000 carrying capacity always. Arch liches end up with ~90% capacity, tengu seem to get around 20%, and everyone else you mentioned is strong and thus has no penalty, only the 18/ bonus. -- [[User:Qazmlpok\|Qazmlpok]] 16:54, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

Tjr: /* polyself */ new section

2011-05-18T15:50:37Z

polyself: new section

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	--[[User:Khearn\|Khearn]] 19:43, 11 December 2010 (UTC)		--[[User:Khearn\|Khearn]] 19:43, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
	:See [[Credit_cloning#Using_pets]] -- [[User:Qazmlpok\|Qazmlpok]] 20:45, 11 December 2010 (UTC)		:See [[Credit_cloning#Using_pets]] -- [[User:Qazmlpok\|Qazmlpok]] 20:45, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

			== polyself ==

			How much can a polymorphed player carry? A table with popular polyforms would be great. (Master mind flayer, minotaur, vampire lord, jabberwock, arch-lich, tengu, silver dragon) --[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]]

Qazmlpok at 20:45, 11 December 2010

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	Anyone know how much a monster (specifically a pet) can carry?		Anyone know how much a monster (specifically a pet) can carry?
	--[[User:Khearn\|Khearn]] 19:43, 11 December 2010 (UTC)		--[[User:Khearn\|Khearn]] 19:43, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
			:See [[Credit_cloning#Using_pets]] -- [[User:Qazmlpok\|Qazmlpok]] 20:45, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

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	:You're right, thanks for correcting me. --[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] 09:35, 19 August 2011 (UTC)		:You're right, thanks for correcting me. --[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] 09:35, 19 August 2011 (UTC)
	::Would you mind correcting all the other places? [[strength]], [[damage]], ... come to mind. ---[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] 10:05, 19 August 2011 (UTC)		::Would you mind correcting all the other places? [[strength]], [[damage]], ... come to mind. ---[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] 10:05, 19 August 2011 (UTC)
			:::Not a problem! I updated the [[strength]] section of [[attribute]]; it seems the same strength mapping formula is used to determine range of thrown objects. I also found another difference between 18/** and 25 that the article didn't mention. The damage table was correct, so there's nothing to change here. --[[User:Erica\|Erica]] 04:24, 20 August 2011 (UTC)

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	How much can a polymorphed player carry? A table with popular polyforms would be great. (Master mind flayer, minotaur, vampire lord, jabberwock, arch-lich, tengu, silver dragon) --[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]]		How much can a polymorphed player carry? A table with popular polyforms would be great. (Master mind flayer, minotaur, vampire lord, jabberwock, arch-lich, tengu, silver dragon) --[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]]
	:[[Source:Hack.c#line2162]]. Non-strong monsters that weigh less than human are scaled based on their weight. There's no automatic benefit to being a strong or large monster, but a strong monster will get 18/ strength as well. Nymphs also have 1000 carrying capacity always. Arch liches end up with ~90% capacity, tengu seem to get around 20%, and everyone else you mentioned is strong and thus has no penalty, only the 18/ bonus. -- [[User:Qazmlpok\|Qazmlpok]] 16:54, 18 May 2011 (UTC)		:[[Source:Hack.c#line2162]]. Non-strong monsters that weigh less than human are scaled based on their weight. There's no automatic benefit to being a strong or large monster, but a strong monster will get 18/ strength as well. Nymphs also have 1000 carrying capacity always. Arch liches end up with ~90% capacity, tengu seem to get around 20%, and everyone else you mentioned is strong and thus has no penalty, only the 18/ bonus. -- [[User:Qazmlpok\|Qazmlpok]] 16:54, 18 May 2011 (UTC)

			::Thanks, updated the article. --[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] 18:25, 18 May 2011 (UTC)