Talk:Erosion - Revision history

Umbire the Phantom: /* Erosion damage types */ new section

2024-07-19T19:25:47Z

Erosion damage types: new section

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	does being rusted/rotted while polymorphed into a golem count as instadeath? --[[Special:Contributions/195.2.244.193\|195.2.244.193]] 12:44, 6 November 2015 (UTC)		does being rusted/rotted while polymorphed into a golem count as instadeath? --[[Special:Contributions/195.2.244.193\|195.2.244.193]] 12:44, 6 November 2015 (UTC)
	:It's coded as one, so I say it counts. [[User:Ais523\|Ais523]] ([[User talk:Ais523\|talk]]) 01:31, 12 November 2015 (UTC)		:It's coded as one, so I say it counts. [[User:Ais523\|Ais523]] ([[User talk:Ais523\|talk]]) 01:31, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

			== Erosion damage types ==

			Think it might be worth expanding on the damage types that cause erosion and splitting them from this article? --[[User:Umbire the Phantom\|Umbire the Phantom]] ([[User talk:Umbire the Phantom\|talk]]) 19:25, 19 July 2024 (UTC)

Ais523: /* instadeath */ IMO it counts

2015-11-12T01:31:20Z

instadeath: IMO it counts

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	== instadeath ==		== instadeath ==
	does being rusted/rotted while polymorphed into a golem count as instadeath? --[[Special:Contributions/195.2.244.193\|195.2.244.193]] 12:44, 6 November 2015 (UTC)		does being rusted/rotted while polymorphed into a golem count as instadeath? --[[Special:Contributions/195.2.244.193\|195.2.244.193]] 12:44, 6 November 2015 (UTC)
			:It's coded as one, so I say it counts. [[User:Ais523\|Ais523]] ([[User talk:Ais523\|talk]]) 01:31, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

195.2.244.193: /* instadeath */ only as unchanging?

2015-11-06T12:44:24Z

instadeath: only as unchanging?

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	Yes, for pudding farming you may want to use a -3 dagger as it will only deal 1 damage always.		Yes, for pudding farming you may want to use a -3 dagger as it will only deal 1 damage always.
	--[[Special:Contributions/24.208.68.158\|24.208.68.158]] 22:10, 9 September 2015 (UTC) Seiyria		--[[Special:Contributions/24.208.68.158\|24.208.68.158]] 22:10, 9 September 2015 (UTC) Seiyria

			== instadeath ==
			does being rusted/rotted while polymorphed into a golem count as instadeath? --[[Special:Contributions/195.2.244.193\|195.2.244.193]] 12:44, 6 November 2015 (UTC)

24.208.68.158: /* Uses */

2015-09-09T22:10:22Z

Uses

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	Is there any possible reason to WANT something eroded, other than for roleplaying that you like a beat-up appearance?		Is there any possible reason to WANT something eroded, other than for roleplaying that you like a beat-up appearance?
	[[Special:Contributions/169.252.4.21\|169.252.4.21]] 04:35, 23 May 2014 (UTC)		[[Special:Contributions/169.252.4.21\|169.252.4.21]] 04:35, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

			Yes, for pudding farming you may want to use a -3 dagger as it will only deal 1 damage always.
			--[[Special:Contributions/24.208.68.158\|24.208.68.158]] 22:10, 9 September 2015 (UTC) Seiyria

108.168.56.177: /* Breaking with #force */

2015-01-11T22:31:22Z

Breaking with #force

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	I think that whenever corroded (and maybe rusty too) weapons or tools are used for #force-ing chests and large boxes, they have a larger chance of breaking. Is there any way to confirm it ?		I think that whenever corroded (and maybe rusty too) weapons or tools are used for #force-ing chests and large boxes, they have a larger chance of breaking. Is there any way to confirm it ?
	:Turns out they do. Look at [[lock.c#line148]]; the chance it will break per turn spent picking the lock is 1-((992 - 10*max erosion level)/(1000-enchantment)); so erosion does considerably increase the chance of breakage. Still won't get rid of a cursed weapon, though - that one is explicitly checked. -[[User:Ion frigate\|Ion frigate]] 11:08, 12 June 2011 (UTC)		:Turns out they do. Look at [[lock.c#line148]]; the chance it will break per turn spent picking the lock is 1-((992 - 10*max erosion level)/(1000-enchantment)); so erosion does considerably increase the chance of breakage. Still won't get rid of a cursed weapon, though - that one is explicitly checked. -[[User:Ion frigate\|Ion frigate]] 11:08, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

			:This is covered in the [http://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Force Force page]. -[[Special:Contributions/108.168.56.177\|108.168.56.177]] 22:31, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

	== Uses ==		== Uses ==

169.252.4.21: /* Uses */ new section

2014-05-23T04:35:49Z

Uses: new section

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	I think that whenever corroded (and maybe rusty too) weapons or tools are used for #force-ing chests and large boxes, they have a larger chance of breaking. Is there any way to confirm it ?		I think that whenever corroded (and maybe rusty too) weapons or tools are used for #force-ing chests and large boxes, they have a larger chance of breaking. Is there any way to confirm it ?
	:Turns out they do. Look at [[lock.c#line148]]; the chance it will break per turn spent picking the lock is 1-((992 - 10*max erosion level)/(1000-enchantment)); so erosion does considerably increase the chance of breakage. Still won't get rid of a cursed weapon, though - that one is explicitly checked. -[[User:Ion frigate\|Ion frigate]] 11:08, 12 June 2011 (UTC)		:Turns out they do. Look at [[lock.c#line148]]; the chance it will break per turn spent picking the lock is 1-((992 - 10*max erosion level)/(1000-enchantment)); so erosion does considerably increase the chance of breakage. Still won't get rid of a cursed weapon, though - that one is explicitly checked. -[[User:Ion frigate\|Ion frigate]] 11:08, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

			== Uses ==

			Is there any possible reason to WANT something eroded, other than for roleplaying that you like a beat-up appearance?
			[[Special:Contributions/169.252.4.21\|169.252.4.21]] 04:35, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

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	How does rust affect steel rings, steel wands and iron balls? At least rings and wands can be wished for as rustproof. It would make sense that a rusty +1 ring of increase accuracy would work as a +0 ring of increase accuracy, for example. --[[User:ZeroOne\|ZeroOne]] 17:26, 26 August 2006 (UTC)		How does rust affect steel rings, steel wands and iron balls? At least rings and wands can be wished for as rustproof. It would make sense that a rusty +1 ring of increase accuracy would work as a +0 ring of increase accuracy, for example. --[[User:ZeroOne\|ZeroOne]] 17:26, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

			===Amulets?===
			can amulets be made erodeproof any way other then wishing for them that way?

	:As far as I know, rust has no effect on rings, wands, or iron balls. I'm not sure I agree with you about the rusty +1 ring of accuracy; a rusty +1 helm of brilliance still adds one to your int and wis, it just offers less protection due to being rusty. The magic is still wholly intact, even if what it inhabits isn't. --[[User:Eidolos\|Eidolos]] 17:31, 26 August 2006 (UTC)		:As far as I know, rust has no effect on rings, wands, or iron balls. I'm not sure I agree with you about the rusty +1 ring of accuracy; a rusty +1 helm of brilliance still adds one to your int and wis, it just offers less protection due to being rusty. The magic is still wholly intact, even if what it inhabits isn't. --[[User:Eidolos\|Eidolos]] 17:31, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

Ion frigate: /* Breaking with #force */

2011-06-12T11:08:24Z

Breaking with #force

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	I think that whenever corroded (and maybe rusty too) weapons or tools are used for #force-ing chests and large boxes, they have a larger chance of breaking. Is there any way to confirm it ?		I think that whenever corroded (and maybe rusty too) weapons or tools are used for #force-ing chests and large boxes, they have a larger chance of breaking. Is there any way to confirm it ?
			:Turns out they do. Look at [[lock.c#line148]]; the chance it will break per turn spent picking the lock is 1-((992 - 10*max erosion level)/(1000-enchantment)); so erosion does considerably increase the chance of breakage. Still won't get rid of a cursed weapon, though - that one is explicitly checked. -[[User:Ion frigate\|Ion frigate]] 11:08, 12 June 2011 (UTC)

86.215.111.45: /* Breaking with #force */ new section

2011-06-12T10:56:58Z

Breaking with #force: new section

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	Does anythithing reverse erosion, if not should such be in the article? Is it, and I missed it? If so, should there be a section devoted to such?[[User:Slarty\|Slarty]] 21:28, October 29, 2010 (UTC)		Does anythithing reverse erosion, if not should such be in the article? Is it, and I missed it? If so, should there be a section devoted to such?[[User:Slarty\|Slarty]] 21:28, October 29, 2010 (UTC)

			== Breaking with #force ==

			I think that whenever corroded (and maybe rusty too) weapons or tools are used for #force-ing chests and large boxes, they have a larger chance of breaking. Is there any way to confirm it ?

Slarty: /* reversing (lessening/eliminating) */ new section

2010-10-29T21:28:18Z

reversing (lessening/eliminating): new section

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	"In addition to erode-proofing, blessed items will resist erosion two thirds of the time."		"In addition to erode-proofing, blessed items will resist erosion two thirds of the time."
	Actually it's based on luck, from [[rnd.c#rnl]]. Could somebody make a table for that? It'd probably be better than trying to calculate it manually. For now, I'll just add a reference to that article. -[[User:Ion frigate\|Ion frigate]] 07:40, June 23, 2010 (UTC)		Actually it's based on luck, from [[rnd.c#rnl]]. Could somebody make a table for that? It'd probably be better than trying to calculate it manually. For now, I'll just add a reference to that article. -[[User:Ion frigate\|Ion frigate]] 07:40, June 23, 2010 (UTC)

			== reversing (lessening/eliminating) ==

			Does anythithing reverse erosion, if not should such be in the article? Is it, and I missed it? If so, should there be a section devoted to such?[[User:Slarty\|Slarty]] 21:28, October 29, 2010 (UTC)