Talk:Grappling hook - Revision history

Andrio Celos: /* Outcome odds */

2018-01-18T12:20:56Z

Outcome odds

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	What are the chances of getting "nothing happens" if you try to apply a grappling hook? Is it just if you get one of the randomly selected effects but it doesn't apply (e.g., there's no monster to hook)? Also, what happens if, at skilled or above, you try a specific effect and fail -- what are the odds of getting one of the other effects, what are the odds of nothing? [[User:Slandor\|Slandor]] 03:31, June 30, 2010 (UTC)		What are the chances of getting "nothing happens" if you try to apply a grappling hook? Is it just if you get one of the randomly selected effects but it doesn't apply (e.g., there's no monster to hook)? Also, what happens if, at skilled or above, you try a specific effect and fail -- what are the odds of getting one of the other effects, what are the odds of nothing? [[User:Slandor\|Slandor]] 03:31, June 30, 2010 (UTC)

			: As the page says, if you get a random result, all possible results (nothing, monster, item, ground, yourself) are equally likely. If the space doesn't have both an item and a monster, more of those rolls will do nothing, so the chance of getting 'Nothing happens.' is greater. - [[User:Andrio Celos\|Andrio Celos]] ([[User talk:Andrio Celos\|talk]]) 12:20, 18 January 2018 (UTC)

	== strategic? ==		== strategic? ==

Andrio Celos: /* Traps */ new section

2017-01-27T07:11:10Z

Traps: new section

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	: Thanks, I noticed it was working the same way as polearms. That was a fast response, too! [[User:Scorchgeek\|Scorchgeek]] ([[User talk:Scorchgeek\|talk]]) 00:58, 5 February 2014 (UTC)		: Thanks, I noticed it was working the same way as polearms. That was a fast response, too! [[User:Scorchgeek\|Scorchgeek]] ([[User talk:Scorchgeek\|talk]]) 00:58, 5 February 2014 (UTC)

			== Traps ==

			It seems you can't use a grappling hook to escape a [[pit]] or [[bear trap]]. An attempt to do so resulted in:

			{{message\|You are yanked toward the floor! You are anchored by the trap. You escape a pit.}}

			But that doesn't actually free you:

			{{message\|You are still in a pit.}}

			It also incurs the chance of taking damage, injuring your legs or being killed by [[Spiked pit\|poison]].

			You ''can'' pull a [[tiny]] monster out of a trap.

			There's a [[Source:NetHack 3.6.0/src/apply.c#line3009\|comment]] in the source code that suggests some interaction between grappling hooks and traps on the target space was planned, but none is implemented yet.

			- [[User:Andrio Celos\|Andrio Celos]] ([[User talk:Andrio Celos\|talk]]) 07:09, 27 January 2017 (UTC)

Scorchgeek: /* 4 squares away? */

2014-02-05T00:58:20Z

4 squares away?

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	---[[User:Chris\|Chris]] ([[User talk:Chris\|talk]])		---[[User:Chris\|Chris]] ([[User talk:Chris\|talk]])

			: Thanks, I noticed it was working the same way as polearms. That was a fast response, too! [[User:Scorchgeek\|Scorchgeek]] ([[User talk:Scorchgeek\|talk]]) 00:58, 5 February 2014 (UTC)

Chris: /* 4 squares away? */ whoops, bad formatting

2014-02-05T00:17:20Z

4 squares away?: whoops, bad formatting

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	The source-diver who wrote that must not have known that NetHack measures distance by the square of the euclidean distance. I.e.:		The source-diver who wrote that must not have known that NetHack measures distance by the square of the euclidean distance. I.e.:

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	This is the same way that polearms measure distance.		This is the same way that polearms measure distance.

	---[[User:Chris\|Chris]] ([[User talk:Chris\|talk]])		---[[User:Chris\|Chris]] ([[User talk:Chris\|talk]])

Chris: Grappling hook response

2014-02-05T00:16:29Z

Grappling hook response

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	When I tried using a grappling hook in wizmode, it tells me "too far" if I try more than 2 squares. I enhanced flail to expert, leveled up to level 30, raised my strength to 18, and enchanted the hook to +6 and blessed it -- no change. What gives? [[User:Scorchgeek\|Scorchgeek]] ([[User talk:Scorchgeek\|talk]]) 23:55, 4 February 2014 (UTC)		When I tried using a grappling hook in wizmode, it tells me "too far" if I try more than 2 squares. I enhanced flail to expert, leveled up to level 30, raised my strength to 18, and enchanted the hook to +6 and blessed it -- no change. What gives? [[User:Scorchgeek\|Scorchgeek]] ([[User talk:Scorchgeek\|talk]]) 23:55, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

			The source-diver who wrote that must not have known that NetHack measures distance by the square of the euclidean distance. I.e.:

			85458
			52125
			41@14
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			85458

			This is the same way that polearms measure distance.

			---[[User:Chris\|Chris]] ([[User talk:Chris\|talk]])

Scorchgeek at 23:55, 4 February 2014

2014-02-04T23:55:44Z

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	A strategy section in this article would be nice.22:29, October 6, 2010 (UTC)[[User:Slarty\|Slarty]] 22:29, October 6, 2010 (UTC)		A strategy section in this article would be nice.22:29, October 6, 2010 (UTC)[[User:Slarty\|Slarty]] 22:29, October 6, 2010 (UTC)

			== 4 squares away? ==
			When I tried using a grappling hook in wizmode, it tells me "too far" if I try more than 2 squares. I enhanced flail to expert, leveled up to level 30, raised my strength to 18, and enchanted the hook to +6 and blessed it -- no change. What gives? [[User:Scorchgeek\|Scorchgeek]] ([[User talk:Scorchgeek\|talk]]) 23:55, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

Slarty: /* strategic? */

2010-10-06T22:29:48Z

strategic?

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	A strategy section in this article would be nice.22:29, October 6, 2010 (UTC)		A strategy section in this article would be nice.22:29, October 6, 2010 (UTC)[[User:Slarty\|Slarty]] 22:29, October 6, 2010 (UTC)

Slarty: /* strategic? */

2010-10-06T22:29:06Z

strategic?

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	A strategy section in this article would be nice.		A strategy section in this article would be nice.22:29, October 6, 2010 (UTC)

Slarty: /* strategic? */ new section

2010-10-06T22:28:40Z

strategic?: new section

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	What are the chances of getting "nothing happens" if you try to apply a grappling hook? Is it just if you get one of the randomly selected effects but it doesn't apply (e.g., there's no monster to hook)? Also, what happens if, at skilled or above, you try a specific effect and fail -- what are the odds of getting one of the other effects, what are the odds of nothing? [[User:Slandor\|Slandor]] 03:31, June 30, 2010 (UTC)		What are the chances of getting "nothing happens" if you try to apply a grappling hook? Is it just if you get one of the randomly selected effects but it doesn't apply (e.g., there's no monster to hook)? Also, what happens if, at skilled or above, you try a specific effect and fail -- what are the odds of getting one of the other effects, what are the odds of nothing? [[User:Slandor\|Slandor]] 03:31, June 30, 2010 (UTC)

			== strategic? ==

			A strategy section in this article would be nice.

Slandor: chance of different effects

2010-06-30T03:31:16Z

chance of different effects

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===Outcome odds===
What are the chances of getting "nothing happens" if you try to apply a grappling hook? Is it just if you get one of the randomly selected effects but it doesn't apply (e.g., there's no monster to hook)? Also, what happens if, at skilled or above, you try a specific effect and fail -- what are the odds of getting one of the other effects, what are the odds of nothing? [[User:Slandor|Slandor]] 03:31, June 30, 2010 (UTC)