Talk:Grappling hook - Revision history

Andrio Celos: /* Outcome odds */

2018-01-18T12:20:56Z

‎Outcome odds

Andrio Celos: /* Traps */ new section

2017-01-27T07:11:10Z

‎Traps: new section

Scorchgeek: /* 4 squares away? */

2014-02-05T00:58:20Z

‎4 squares away?

Chris: /* 4 squares away? */ whoops, bad formatting

2014-02-05T00:17:20Z

‎4 squares away?: whoops, bad formatting

Chris: Grappling hook response

2014-02-05T00:16:29Z

Grappling hook response

Scorchgeek at 23:55, 4 February 2014

2014-02-04T23:55:44Z

Slarty: /* strategic? */

2010-10-06T22:29:48Z

‎strategic?

Slarty: /* strategic? */

2010-10-06T22:29:06Z

‎strategic?

Slarty: /* strategic? */ new section

2010-10-06T22:28:40Z

‎strategic?: new section

Slandor: chance of different effects

2010-06-30T03:31:16Z

chance of different effects

New page

===Outcome odds===
What are the chances of getting "nothing happens" if you try to apply a grappling hook? Is it just if you get one of the randomly selected effects but it doesn't apply (e.g., there's no monster to hook)? Also, what happens if, at skilled or above, you try a specific effect and fail -- what are the odds of getting one of the other effects, what are the odds of nothing? [[User:Slandor|Slandor]] 03:31, June 30, 2010 (UTC)

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	: Thanks, I noticed it was working the same way as polearms. That was a fast response, too! [[User:Scorchgeek\|Scorchgeek]] ([[User talk:Scorchgeek\|talk]]) 00:58, 5 February 2014 (UTC)		: Thanks, I noticed it was working the same way as polearms. That was a fast response, too! [[User:Scorchgeek\|Scorchgeek]] ([[User talk:Scorchgeek\|talk]]) 00:58, 5 February 2014 (UTC)
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		+	== Traps ==
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		+	It seems you can't use a grappling hook to escape a [[pit]] or [[bear trap]]. An attempt to do so resulted in:
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		+	{{message\|You are yanked toward the floor! You are anchored by the trap. You escape a pit.}}
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		+	But that doesn't actually free you:
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		+	{{message\|You are still in a pit.}}
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		+	It also incurs the chance of taking damage, injuring your legs or being killed by [[Spiked pit\|poison]].
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		+	You ''can'' pull a [[tiny]] monster out of a trap.
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		+	There's a [[Source:NetHack 3.6.0/src/apply.c#line3009\|comment]] in the source code that suggests some interaction between grappling hooks and traps on the target space was planned, but none is implemented yet.
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		+	- [[User:Andrio Celos\|Andrio Celos]] ([[User talk:Andrio Celos\|talk]]) 07:09, 27 January 2017 (UTC)

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	---[[User:Chris\|Chris]] ([[User talk:Chris\|talk]])		---[[User:Chris\|Chris]] ([[User talk:Chris\|talk]])
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		+	: Thanks, I noticed it was working the same way as polearms. That was a fast response, too! [[User:Scorchgeek\|Scorchgeek]] ([[User talk:Scorchgeek\|talk]]) 00:58, 5 February 2014 (UTC)

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 The source-diver who wrote that must not have known that NetHack measures distance by the square of the euclidean distance. I.e.:
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 This is the same way that polearms measure distance.
 ---[[User:Chris|Chris]] ([[User talk:Chris|talk]])

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	When I tried using a grappling hook in wizmode, it tells me "too far" if I try more than 2 squares. I enhanced flail to expert, leveled up to level 30, raised my strength to 18, and enchanted the hook to +6 and blessed it -- no change. What gives? [[User:Scorchgeek\|Scorchgeek]] ([[User talk:Scorchgeek\|talk]]) 23:55, 4 February 2014 (UTC)		When I tried using a grappling hook in wizmode, it tells me "too far" if I try more than 2 squares. I enhanced flail to expert, leveled up to level 30, raised my strength to 18, and enchanted the hook to +6 and blessed it -- no change. What gives? [[User:Scorchgeek\|Scorchgeek]] ([[User talk:Scorchgeek\|talk]]) 23:55, 4 February 2014 (UTC)
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		+	The source-diver who wrote that must not have known that NetHack measures distance by the square of the euclidean distance. I.e.:
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		+	85458
		+	52125
		+	41@14
		+	52125
		+	85458
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		+	This is the same way that polearms measure distance.
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		+	---[[User:Chris\|Chris]] ([[User talk:Chris\|talk]])

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	A strategy section in this article would be nice.22:29, October 6, 2010 (UTC)[[User:Slarty\|Slarty]] 22:29, October 6, 2010 (UTC)		A strategy section in this article would be nice.22:29, October 6, 2010 (UTC)[[User:Slarty\|Slarty]] 22:29, October 6, 2010 (UTC)
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		+	== 4 squares away? ==
		+	When I tried using a grappling hook in wizmode, it tells me "too far" if I try more than 2 squares. I enhanced flail to expert, leveled up to level 30, raised my strength to 18, and enchanted the hook to +6 and blessed it -- no change. What gives? [[User:Scorchgeek\|Scorchgeek]] ([[User talk:Scorchgeek\|talk]]) 23:55, 4 February 2014 (UTC)

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 ===Outcome odds===
 What are the chances of getting "nothing happens" if you try to apply a grappling hook? Is it just if you get one of the randomly selected effects but it doesn't apply (e.g., there's no monster to hook)? Also, what happens if, at skilled or above, you try a specific effect and fail -- what are the odds of getting one of the other effects, what are the odds of nothing? [[User:Slandor|Slandor]] 03:31, June 30, 2010 (UTC)
 == strategic? ==

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−	A strategy section in this article would be nice.22:29, October 6, 2010 (UTC)	+	A strategy section in this article would be nice.22:29, October 6, 2010 (UTC)[[User:Slarty\|Slarty]] 22:29, October 6, 2010 (UTC)

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	What are the chances of getting "nothing happens" if you try to apply a grappling hook? Is it just if you get one of the randomly selected effects but it doesn't apply (e.g., there's no monster to hook)? Also, what happens if, at skilled or above, you try a specific effect and fail -- what are the odds of getting one of the other effects, what are the odds of nothing? [[User:Slandor\|Slandor]] 03:31, June 30, 2010 (UTC)		What are the chances of getting "nothing happens" if you try to apply a grappling hook? Is it just if you get one of the randomly selected effects but it doesn't apply (e.g., there's no monster to hook)? Also, what happens if, at skilled or above, you try a specific effect and fail -- what are the odds of getting one of the other effects, what are the odds of nothing? [[User:Slandor\|Slandor]] 03:31, June 30, 2010 (UTC)
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		+	== strategic? ==
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		+	A strategy section in this article would be nice.