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		<title>71.163.125.99 at 04:21, 28 August 2009</title>
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		<updated>2009-08-28T04:21:37Z</updated>

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				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #222; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;← Older revision&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #222; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Revision as of 04:21, 28 August 2009&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l5&quot; &gt;Line 5:&lt;/td&gt;
&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot;&gt;Line 5:&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;: In the great majority of cases, contributors are right (or if not, usually contribute a newbie's pitfall), but I have also seen myths being spread.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;: In the great majority of cases, contributors are right (or if not, usually contribute a newbie's pitfall), but I have also seen myths being spread.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;: As for the facts, engraving with a wand or an edged weapon never fails in vanilla unless you are impaired, and I've never heard of SLASHEM changing this. That's why such a potentially game-unbalancing thing as unlimited, permanent, one-turn Elbereth raised a red flag. -[[User:Tjr|Tjr]] 23:50, 27 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;: As for the facts, engraving with a wand or an edged weapon never fails in vanilla unless you are impaired, and I've never heard of SLASHEM changing this. That's why such a potentially game-unbalancing thing as unlimited, permanent, one-turn Elbereth raised a red flag. -[[User:Tjr|Tjr]] 23:50, 27 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;: All lightsabers eventually run out of charge and need to be recharged with a scroll of charging; that's why you don't have infinite, permanent one-turn Elbereth, as either you keep it constantly on and it runs out of charge, or you need to take a turn to activate it.  They're also quite rare and not really worth wishing for, as no class can gain skill in them, and their high base damage can easily be achieved in other ways.  I can certainly see that using them for twoweaponing would be quite beneficial, as it is of course the skill in the main weapon that matters.  Again though, there are other, more versatile ways of achieving that (Bat From Hell comes to mind...)  [[Special:Contributions/71.163.125.99|71.163.125.99]] 04:21, 28 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>Tjr at 23:52, 27 August 2009</title>
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		<updated>2009-08-27T23:52:27Z</updated>

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				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l3&quot; &gt;Line 3:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* I'm sorry, I didn't mean to step on your or the original contributor's toes. I've reworded the todo to be more polite.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* I'm sorry, I didn't mean to step on your or the original contributor's toes. I've reworded the todo to be more polite.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;−&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;: In the majority of cases, contributors are right (or if not, usually contribute a newbie's pitfall), but I have also seen myths being spread.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;: In the &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;great &lt;/ins&gt;majority of cases, contributors are right (or if not, usually contribute a newbie's pitfall), but I have also seen myths being spread.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;: As for the facts, engraving with a wand or an edged weapon never fails in vanilla unless you are impaired, and I've never heard of SLASHEM changing this. That's why such a potentially game-unbalancing thing as unlimited, permanent, one-turn Elbereth raised a red flag. -[[User:Tjr|Tjr]] 23:50, 27 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;: As for the facts, engraving with a wand or an edged weapon never fails in vanilla unless you are impaired, and I've never heard of SLASHEM changing this. That's why such a potentially game-unbalancing thing as unlimited, permanent, one-turn Elbereth raised a red flag. -[[User:Tjr|Tjr]] 23:50, 27 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>Tjr at 23:50, 27 August 2009</title>
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		<updated>2009-08-27T23:50:54Z</updated>

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				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l2&quot; &gt;Line 2:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* I can't test the infinite part (not having SLASH'EM installed) but surely the same rules for individual letters failing during engraving also applies? I find your lack of faith... disturbing. The lack of charges is a worry. -- [[User:Kalon|Kalon]] 22:50, 27 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* I can't test the infinite part (not having SLASH'EM installed) but surely the same rules for individual letters failing during engraving also applies? I find your lack of faith... disturbing. The lack of charges is a worry. -- [[User:Kalon|Kalon]] 22:50, 27 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;−&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;: &lt;/del&gt;I'm sorry, I didn't mean to step on your or the original contributor's toes. I've reworded the todo to be more polite.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;* &lt;/ins&gt;I'm sorry, I didn't mean to step on your or the original contributor's toes. I've reworded the todo to be more polite.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;: In the majority of cases, contributors are right (or if not, usually contribute a newbie's pitfall), but I have also seen myths being spread.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;: In the majority of cases, contributors are right (or if not, usually contribute a newbie's pitfall), but I have also seen myths being spread.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;: As for the facts, engraving with a wand or an edged weapon never fails in vanilla unless you are impaired, and I've never heard of SLASHEM changing this. That's why such a potentially game-unbalancing thing as unlimited, permanent, one-turn Elbereth raised a red flag. -[[User:Tjr|Tjr]] 23:50, 27 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;: As for the facts, engraving with a wand or an edged weapon never fails in vanilla unless you are impaired, and I've never heard of SLASHEM changing this. That's why such a potentially game-unbalancing thing as unlimited, permanent, one-turn Elbereth raised a red flag. -[[User:Tjr|Tjr]] 23:50, 27 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>Tjr at 23:50, 27 August 2009</title>
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		<updated>2009-08-27T23:50:24Z</updated>

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				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l1&quot; &gt;Line 1:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Taken from the todo: ''an someone knowledgable please check the facts? What are the drawbacks to engraving, as you surely don't get infinite one-turn, permanent Elbereth?'' -- [[User:Tjr|Tjy]] 05:16, 28 August 2009 Tjr&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Taken from the todo: ''an someone knowledgable please check the facts? What are the drawbacks to engraving, as you surely don't get infinite one-turn, permanent Elbereth?'' -- [[User:Tjr|Tjy]] 05:16, 28 August 2009 Tjr&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* I can't test the infinite part (not having SLASH'EM installed) but surely the same rules for individual letters failing during engraving also applies? I find your lack of faith... disturbing. The lack of charges is a worry. -- [[User:Kalon|Kalon]] 22:50, 27 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;* I can't test the infinite part (not having SLASH'EM installed) but surely the same rules for individual letters failing during engraving also applies? I find your lack of faith... disturbing. The lack of charges is a worry. -- [[User:Kalon|Kalon]] 22:50, 27 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;: I'm sorry, I didn't mean to step on your or the original contributor's toes. I've reworded the todo to be more polite.&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;: In the majority of cases, contributors are right (or if not, usually contribute a newbie's pitfall), but I have also seen myths being spread.&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;: As for the facts, engraving with a wand or an edged weapon never fails in vanilla unless you are impaired, and I've never heard of SLASHEM changing this. That's why such a potentially game-unbalancing thing as unlimited, permanent, one-turn Elbereth raised a red flag. -[[User:Tjr|Tjr]] 23:50, 27 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<author><name>Tjr</name></author>
		
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		<title>Kalon: Letter engraving can still fail, my apprentice.</title>
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		<updated>2009-08-27T22:50:41Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Letter engraving can still fail, my apprentice.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;Taken from the todo: ''an someone knowledgable please check the facts? What are the drawbacks to engraving, as you surely don't get infinite one-turn, permanent Elbereth?'' -- [[User:Tjr|Tjy]] 05:16, 28 August 2009 Tjr&lt;br /&gt;
* I can't test the infinite part (not having SLASH'EM installed) but surely the same rules for individual letters failing during engraving also applies? I find your lack of faith... disturbing. The lack of charges is a worry. -- [[User:Kalon|Kalon]] 22:50, 27 August 2009 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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