Talk:Gremlin - Revision history

Tjr: /* Intrinsic / Extrinsic */

2013-06-05T23:21:45Z

‎Intrinsic / Extrinsic

Fyr: /* Intrinsic / Extrinsic */

2013-06-05T10:02:06Z

‎Intrinsic / Extrinsic

98.166.83.108: /* Intrinsic / Extrinsic */ new section

2012-05-09T19:19:50Z

‎Intrinsic / Extrinsic: new section

Tjr: can't get rid of intrinsic hunger.

2011-09-24T22:42:32Z

can't get rid of intrinsic hunger.

AileTheAlien: /* Hunger */ new section

2011-09-24T22:39:17Z

‎Hunger: new section

Killian: /* nethack.alt.org server time zone? */ ask Rodney

2008-10-18T09:17:01Z

‎nethack.alt.org server time zone?: ask Rodney

65.188.163.182: /* Gremlins will also follow you up/down stairs */ new section

2008-10-18T03:32:17Z

‎Gremlins will also follow you up/down stairs: new section

Blueshade: nethack.alt.org time zone?

2008-10-18T02:48:11Z

nethack.alt.org time zone?

TychoIsDed at 23:08, 22 February 2008

2008-02-22T23:08:44Z

TychoIsDed: Gremlin poly abilities?

2008-02-22T22:44:36Z

Gremlin poly abilities?

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I've been trying to determine through wiztesting whether it is possible to steal intrinsics while polyed into a gremlin, so far I haven't been having much luck. Not ready to give up yet, but is there anyone else out there who has already tried it or is willing to give it a try? [[User:TychoIsDed|TychoIsDed]] 22:44, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

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	There is a line on the page which says "If the player has that intrinsic from an external source, he loses it." This is counter to source code which addresses loss of one or 11 intrinsics. If you have both the intrinsic and the extrinsic you would lose the intrinsic but keep the extrinsic.		There is a line on the page which says "If the player has that intrinsic from an external source, he loses it." This is counter to source code which addresses loss of one or 11 intrinsics. If you have both the intrinsic and the extrinsic you would lose the intrinsic but keep the extrinsic.
	:I think what it means by "external source" is that you have the property intrinsically, but that you gained it from an external source - such as eating a corpse or ring, as a divine gift, etc - as opposed to having it naturally (by virtue of your race/role and xp level). -- [[User:Fyr\|Fyr]] ([[User talk:Fyr\|talk]]) 10:02, 5 June 2013 (UTC)		:I think what it means by "external source" is that you have the property intrinsically, but that you gained it from an external source - such as eating a corpse or ring, as a divine gift, etc - as opposed to having it naturally (by virtue of your race/role and xp level). -- [[User:Fyr\|Fyr]] ([[User talk:Fyr\|talk]]) 10:02, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
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		+	::Maybe the explanation is that the code says "HExt" where we say "intrinsic". Actually, there are three different ways to obtain a property: 1) "natural instrinsics" due to race or role, 2) code-parlance-extrinsic "intrinsics" from eating corpses, 3) extrinsics due to jewelry. I'm not sure where polyself fits in. The difference between 1 and 2 shows up e.g. in the fact that valkyries don't stumble on ice, but monks do even if have the XP levels to get cold resistance. --[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] ([[User talk:Tjr\|talk]]) 23:21, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

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	There is a line on the page which says "If the player has that intrinsic from an external source, he loses it." This is counter to source code which addresses loss of one or 11 intrinsics. If you have both the intrinsic and the extrinsic you would lose the intrinsic but keep the extrinsic.		There is a line on the page which says "If the player has that intrinsic from an external source, he loses it." This is counter to source code which addresses loss of one or 11 intrinsics. If you have both the intrinsic and the extrinsic you would lose the intrinsic but keep the extrinsic.
		+	:I think what it means by "external source" is that you have the property intrinsically, but that you gained it from an external source - such as eating a corpse or ring, as a divine gift, etc - as opposed to having it naturally (by virtue of your race/role and xp level). -- [[User:Fyr\|Fyr]] ([[User talk:Fyr\|talk]]) 10:02, 5 June 2013 (UTC)

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	Is it possible to remove the ring-hunger intrinsic from eating regen/hunger/conflict, and if so, can the other intrinsics be kept? --[[User:AileTheAlien\|AileTheAlien]] 22:39, 24 September 2011 (UTC)		Is it possible to remove the ring-hunger intrinsic from eating regen/hunger/conflict, and if so, can the other intrinsics be kept? --[[User:AileTheAlien\|AileTheAlien]] 22:39, 24 September 2011 (UTC)
	: No, see [[Source:Ref/attrcurse]]. --[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] 22:42, 24 September 2011 (UTC)		: No, see [[Source:Ref/attrcurse]]. --[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] 22:42, 24 September 2011 (UTC)
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		+	== Intrinsic / Extrinsic ==
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		+	There is a line on the page which says "If the player has that intrinsic from an external source, he loses it." This is counter to source code which addresses loss of one or 11 intrinsics. If you have both the intrinsic and the extrinsic you would lose the intrinsic but keep the extrinsic.

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	Is it possible to remove the ring-hunger intrinsic from eating regen/hunger/conflict, and if so, can the other intrinsics be kept? --[[User:AileTheAlien\|AileTheAlien]] 22:39, 24 September 2011 (UTC)		Is it possible to remove the ring-hunger intrinsic from eating regen/hunger/conflict, and if so, can the other intrinsics be kept? --[[User:AileTheAlien\|AileTheAlien]] 22:39, 24 September 2011 (UTC)
		+	: No, see [[Source:Ref/attrcurse]]. --[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] 22:42, 24 September 2011 (UTC)

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	Gremlins will also follow you up/down stairs.		Gremlins will also follow you up/down stairs.
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		+	== Hunger ==
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		+	Is it possible to remove the ring-hunger intrinsic from eating regen/hunger/conflict, and if so, can the other intrinsics be kept? --[[User:AileTheAlien\|AileTheAlien]] 22:39, 24 September 2011 (UTC)

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 It would be useful if someone was kind enough to provide information concerning the timezone in use on the nethack.alt.org server... I mean, it's nice to know that gremlins are most dangerous at night, but the crucial point is: when does the night actually happen on n.a.o. :)... - [[User:Blueshade|Blueshade]] 02:48, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
 == Gremlins will also follow you up/down stairs ==
 Gremlins will also follow you up/down stairs.

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	It would be useful if someone was kind enough to provide information concerning the timezone in use on the nethack.alt.org server... I mean, it's nice to know that gremlins are most dangerous at night, but the crucial point is: when does the night actually happen on n.a.o. :)... - [[User:Blueshade\|Blueshade]] 02:48, 18 October 2008 (UTC)		It would be useful if someone was kind enough to provide information concerning the timezone in use on the nethack.alt.org server... I mean, it's nice to know that gremlins are most dangerous at night, but the crucial point is: when does the night actually happen on n.a.o. :)... - [[User:Blueshade\|Blueshade]] 02:48, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
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	Arg. Had someone in #nethack tell me he was certain it didn't work, so, bleh. Oh well, if anyone still wants to test it, that'd be cool too. :P [[User:TychoIsDed\|TychoIsDed]] 23:08, 22 February 2008 (UTC)		Arg. Had someone in #nethack tell me he was certain it didn't work, so, bleh. Oh well, if anyone still wants to test it, that'd be cool too. :P [[User:TychoIsDed\|TychoIsDed]] 23:08, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
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		+	=== nethack.alt.org server time zone? ===
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		+	It would be useful if someone was kind enough to provide information concerning the timezone in use on the nethack.alt.org server... I mean, it's nice to know that gremlins are most dangerous at night, but the crucial point is: when does the night actually happen on n.a.o. :)... - [[User:Blueshade\|Blueshade]] 02:48, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

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	I've been trying to determine through wiztesting whether it is possible to steal intrinsics while polyed into a gremlin, so far I haven't been having much luck. Not ready to give up yet, but is there anyone else out there who has already tried it or is willing to give it a try? [[User:TychoIsDed\|TychoIsDed]] 22:44, 22 February 2008 (UTC)		I've been trying to determine through wiztesting whether it is possible to steal intrinsics while polyed into a gremlin, so far I haven't been having much luck. Not ready to give up yet, but is there anyone else out there who has already tried it or is willing to give it a try? [[User:TychoIsDed\|TychoIsDed]] 22:44, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
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		+	Arg. Had someone in #nethack tell me he was certain it didn't work, so, bleh. Oh well, if anyone still wants to test it, that'd be cool too. :P [[User:TychoIsDed\|TychoIsDed]] 23:08, 22 February 2008 (UTC)