Talk:Healing potions - Revision history

Umbire the Phantom: revert comment removal + reply

2024-06-27T09:46:16Z

revert comment removal + reply

Nethacker at 08:12, 27 June 2024

2024-06-27T08:12:18Z

Umbire the Phantom: reply

2024-06-26T13:50:09Z

Furey: Article was 90% redundant. It is now 100% redundant. We should delete it.

2024-06-26T11:08:08Z

Article was 90% redundant. It is now 100% redundant. We should delete it.

Nethacker at 10:22, 26 June 2024

2024-06-26T10:22:30Z

Ion frigate: tend to agree, want to move tables first

2023-12-23T21:37:26Z

tend to agree, want to move tables first

Kufat: Agreeing with deletion suggestion

2023-12-23T20:38:12Z

Agreeing with deletion suggestion

New page

Agreed that this is redundant. [[User:Kufat|Kufat]] ([[User talk:Kufat|talk]]) 20:38, 23 December 2023 (UTC)

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	No one objected to the request for deletion or laid out an alternate plan (such as refactoring other articles to point to this one). Now this article is 100% redundant, which is a good time to actually delete it. [[User:Furey\|Furey]] ([[User talk:Furey\|talk]]) 11:07, 26 June 2024 (UTC)		No one objected to the request for deletion or laid out an alternate plan (such as refactoring other articles to point to this one). Now this article is 100% redundant, which is a good time to actually delete it. [[User:Furey\|Furey]] ([[User talk:Furey\|talk]]) 11:07, 26 June 2024 (UTC)

−	: Just above someone wrote "I tend to agree as well, but I do want to preserve those tables (HP/max HP/effects cured) on [[healing]]." The table contents is scattered over several pages. I don't know if there are admins there or something, but it is your personal opinion that the article is redundant now. [[User:Nethacker\|Nethacker]] ([[User talk:Nethacker\|talk]]) 08:12, 27 June 2024 (UTC)	+	:Speaking with mod hat off, and as the person who first added the deletion template to the article:
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		+	# The scope of the [[healing]] article ''already'' includes this, is the thing - the article itself is just in need of a quality pass (and direly so, in my own personal opinion), along with some proper disambiguating so that people don't stumble upon it while looking for, say, the [[spellbook of healing]].
		+	# As far as aggregating articles about subjects with things in common, that's something the wiki really should be moving away from, which I've been trying to help with in the past couple of years. This does not apply to ''every single article'' that would qualify, in the interest of clarity, but it should at least be questioned if an aggregate article is necessary - and in this instance I consider this article to be unnecessary, especially since a mass majority of it is ''made'' from existing articles when we can just link to the articles themselves, and (as mentioned above) the healing article already exists for the remainder.
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		+	This is why I set out the stipulation I first did: make sure we don't lose any of the non-redundant info, then contemplate deletion. --[[User:Umbire the Phantom\|Umbire the Phantom]] ([[User talk:Umbire the Phantom\|talk]]) 13:50, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
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		+	:Just above someone wrote "I tend to agree as well, but I do want to preserve those tables (HP/max HP/effects cured) on [[healing]]." The table contents is scattered over several pages. I don't know if there are admins there or something, but it is your personal opinion that the article is redundant now. [[User:Nethacker\|Nethacker]] ([[User talk:Nethacker\|talk]]) 08:12, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
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		+	::...yes, that is why I spoke with my mod hat off - to state my personal opinion. Ion's comment is in reply to me putting the the template there in the first place, and is in agreement with my rationale for doing so. --[[User:Umbire the Phantom\|Umbire the Phantom]] ([[User talk:Umbire the Phantom\|talk]]) 09:46, 27 June 2024 (UTC)

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	No one objected to the request for deletion or laid out an alternate plan (such as refactoring other articles to point to this one). Now this article is 100% redundant, which is a good time to actually delete it. [[User:Furey\|Furey]] ([[User talk:Furey\|talk]]) 11:07, 26 June 2024 (UTC)		No one objected to the request for deletion or laid out an alternate plan (such as refactoring other articles to point to this one). Now this article is 100% redundant, which is a good time to actually delete it. [[User:Furey\|Furey]] ([[User talk:Furey\|talk]]) 11:07, 26 June 2024 (UTC)

−	:~~Speaking with mod hat off~~, ~~and as the person who first added the deletion template~~ to ~~the article:~~	+	: Just above someone wrote "I tend to agree as well, but I do want to preserve those tables (HP/max HP/effects cured) on [[healing]]." The table contents is scattered over several pages. I don't know if there are admins there or something, but it is your personal opinion that the article is redundant now. [[User:Nethacker\|Nethacker]] ([[User talk:Nethacker\|talk]]) 08:12, 27 June 2024 (UTC)
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−	~~# The scope of the~~ [[healing]] ~~article ''already'' includes this,~~ is ~~the thing - the article itself is just in need of a quality pass (and direly so, in my own personal opinion), along with some proper disambiguating so that people~~ don't ~~stumble upon it while looking for, say, the [[spellbook of healing]].~~
−	~~# As far as aggregating articles about subjects with things in common, that's~~ something the wiki really should be moving away from, which I've been trying to help with in the past couple of years. This does not apply to ''every single article'' that would qualify, in the interest of clarity, but it ~~should at least be questioned if an aggregate article~~ is ~~necessary - and in this instance I consider this article to be unnecessary, especially since a mass majority of it is ''made'' from existing articles when we can just link to~~ the ~~articles themselves, and (as mentioned above) the healing~~ article ~~already exists for the remainder.~~
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−	~~This~~ is ~~why I set out the stipulation I first did: make sure we don't lose any of the non-~~redundant ~~info, then contemplate deletion~~. --[[User:~~Umbire the Phantom~~\|~~Umbire the Phantom~~]] ([[User talk:~~Umbire the Phantom~~\|talk]]) 13:50, 26 June 2024 (UTC)

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	No one objected to the request for deletion or laid out an alternate plan (such as refactoring other articles to point to this one). Now this article is 100% redundant, which is a good time to actually delete it. [[User:Furey\|Furey]] ([[User talk:Furey\|talk]]) 11:07, 26 June 2024 (UTC)		No one objected to the request for deletion or laid out an alternate plan (such as refactoring other articles to point to this one). Now this article is 100% redundant, which is a good time to actually delete it. [[User:Furey\|Furey]] ([[User talk:Furey\|talk]]) 11:07, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
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		+	:Speaking with mod hat off, and as the person who first added the deletion template to the article:
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		+	# The scope of the [[healing]] article ''already'' includes this, is the thing - the article itself is just in need of a quality pass (and direly so, in my own personal opinion), along with some proper disambiguating so that people don't stumble upon it while looking for, say, the [[spellbook of healing]].
		+	# As far as aggregating articles about subjects with things in common, that's something the wiki really should be moving away from, which I've been trying to help with in the past couple of years. This does not apply to ''every single article'' that would qualify, in the interest of clarity, but it should at least be questioned if an aggregate article is necessary - and in this instance I consider this article to be unnecessary, especially since a mass majority of it is ''made'' from existing articles when we can just link to the articles themselves, and (as mentioned above) the healing article already exists for the remainder.
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		+	This is why I set out the stipulation I first did: make sure we don't lose any of the non-redundant info, then contemplate deletion. --[[User:Umbire the Phantom\|Umbire the Phantom]] ([[User talk:Umbire the Phantom\|talk]]) 13:50, 26 June 2024 (UTC)

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	Potions of healing, extra healing, full healing have a lot in common, so there should be an article about all three. In any case, both tables should not be deleted. But they don't belong to the Healing page unless we expand the definition of healing and the scope of the page. ==[[User:Nethacker\|Nethacker]] ([[User talk:Nethacker\|talk]]) 10:22, 26 June 2024 (UTC)		Potions of healing, extra healing, full healing have a lot in common, so there should be an article about all three. In any case, both tables should not be deleted. But they don't belong to the Healing page unless we expand the definition of healing and the scope of the page. ==[[User:Nethacker\|Nethacker]] ([[User talk:Nethacker\|talk]]) 10:22, 26 June 2024 (UTC)
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		+	This article was about 90% redundant with existing articles the day it was created, which is why another editor tagged the article for deletion. Specifically, all of the information in the two tables was already in the other articles, except for the fact that the existing articles did not cover vomiting.
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		+	No one objected to the request for deletion or laid out an alternate plan (such as refactoring other articles to point to this one). Now this article is 100% redundant, which is a good time to actually delete it. [[User:Furey\|Furey]] ([[User talk:Furey\|talk]]) 11:07, 26 June 2024 (UTC)

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	Agreed that this is redundant. [[User:Kufat\|Kufat]] ([[User talk:Kufat\|talk]]) 20:38, 23 December 2023 (UTC)		Agreed that this is redundant. [[User:Kufat\|Kufat]] ([[User talk:Kufat\|talk]]) 20:38, 23 December 2023 (UTC)
	:I tend to agree as well, but I do want to preserve those tables (HP/max HP/effects cured) on [[healing]]. If anyone wants to move those over to that article, I'll go ahead and delete the page - I'll do it myself in the next few days when I have time. -[[User:Ion frigate\|Ion frigate]] ([[User talk:Ion frigate\|talk]]) 21:37, 23 December 2023 (UTC)		:I tend to agree as well, but I do want to preserve those tables (HP/max HP/effects cured) on [[healing]]. If anyone wants to move those over to that article, I'll go ahead and delete the page - I'll do it myself in the next few days when I have time. -[[User:Ion frigate\|Ion frigate]] ([[User talk:Ion frigate\|talk]]) 21:37, 23 December 2023 (UTC)
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		+	Potions of healing, extra healing, full healing have a lot in common, so there should be an article about all three. In any case, both tables should not be deleted. But they don't belong to the Healing page unless we expand the definition of healing and the scope of the page. ==[[User:Nethacker\|Nethacker]] ([[User talk:Nethacker\|talk]]) 10:22, 26 June 2024 (UTC)

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	Agreed that this is redundant. [[User:Kufat\|Kufat]] ([[User talk:Kufat\|talk]]) 20:38, 23 December 2023 (UTC)		Agreed that this is redundant. [[User:Kufat\|Kufat]] ([[User talk:Kufat\|talk]]) 20:38, 23 December 2023 (UTC)
		+	:I tend to agree as well, but I do want to preserve those tables (HP/max HP/effects cured) on [[healing]]. If anyone wants to move those over to that article, I'll go ahead and delete the page - I'll do it myself in the next few days when I have time. -[[User:Ion frigate\|Ion frigate]] ([[User talk:Ion frigate\|talk]]) 21:37, 23 December 2023 (UTC)