Talk:Helm of opposite alignment - Revision history

Qazmlpok: /* Helm alignment for neutral characters */

2016-01-25T14:01:35Z

‎Helm alignment for neutral characters

2016-01-25T13:49:38Z

2013-05-04T22:24:45Z

‎multiconduct benefits

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multiconduct benefits

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New page: So, are lawfuls-turned-chaotic not penalized for murder? ~~~~

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So, are lawfuls-turned-chaotic not penalized for murder? [[User:Aeronflux|Aeronflux]] 00:12, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

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	"o_id" is the internal ID number of the item, and if I'm not mistaken a newly generated item will always have an ID number that is 1 higher than the last one generated, so by quickly wishing for two helms in succession a neutral character will be almost guaranteed to have both a "lawful" and a "chaotic" helmet. --[[User:Bluescreenofdeath\|Bluescreenofdeath]] ([[User talk:Bluescreenofdeath\|talk]]) 13:49, 25 January 2016 (UTC)		"o_id" is the internal ID number of the item, and if I'm not mistaken a newly generated item will always have an ID number that is 1 higher than the last one generated, so by quickly wishing for two helms in succession a neutral character will be almost guaranteed to have both a "lawful" and a "chaotic" helmet. --[[User:Bluescreenofdeath\|Bluescreenofdeath]] ([[User talk:Bluescreenofdeath\|talk]]) 13:49, 25 January 2016 (UTC)
		+	:Just checked with a debugger, and yeah. As long as nothing else in generated in between (Which '''can''' always happen due to monster generation, it'll just be rare), two consecutive wishes will work. -- [[User:Qazmlpok\|Qazmlpok]] ([[User talk:Qazmlpok\|talk]]) 14:01, 25 January 2016 (UTC)

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	Placed here because I wasn't sure this article's readership is the right target audience. --[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] ([[User talk:Tjr\|talk]]) 22:24, 4 May 2013 (UTC)		Placed here because I wasn't sure this article's readership is the right target audience. --[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] ([[User talk:Tjr\|talk]]) 22:24, 4 May 2013 (UTC)
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		+	== Helm alignment for neutral characters ==
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		+	do_wear.c function Helmet_on(): uchangealign((u.ualign.type != A_NEUTRAL) ? -u.ualign.type : (uarmh->o_id % 2) ? A_CHAOTIC : A_LAWFUL, 1);
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		+	"o_id" is the internal ID number of the item, and if I'm not mistaken a newly generated item will always have an ID number that is 1 higher than the last one generated, so by quickly wishing for two helms in succession a neutral character will be almost guaranteed to have both a "lawful" and a "chaotic" helmet. --[[User:Bluescreenofdeath\|Bluescreenofdeath]] ([[User talk:Bluescreenofdeath\|talk]]) 13:49, 25 January 2016 (UTC)

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 * sanctuary in an originally cross-aligned temple. Though it's not so clear why that is good.
 * dig up graves as a born non-lawful. Relevant to atheist pacifists, who have a hard time raising alignment.
-* the mines are easier for lawul non-pacifists because so many monsters are peaceful. But for pacifists, pets will still deplete their HP on peacefuls. --[[User:Tjr|Tjr]] ([[User talk:Tjr|talk]]) 21:55, 4 May 2013 (UTC)
+* the mines are easier for lawul non-pacifists because so many monsters are peaceful. But for pacifists, pets will still deplete their HP on peacefuls.

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	So, are lawfuls-turned-chaotic not penalized for murder? [[User:Aeronflux\|Aeronflux]] 00:12, 1 March 2009 (UTC)		So, are lawfuls-turned-chaotic not penalized for murder? [[User:Aeronflux\|Aeronflux]] 00:12, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
	* Behavior is always rewarded or penalized based on your current alignment. As long as you're Chaotic at the moment you commit murder, you aren't punished. --[[User:Auraseer\|Auraseer]] 03:57, 1 March 2009 (UTC)		* Behavior is always rewarded or penalized based on your current alignment. As long as you're Chaotic at the moment you commit murder, you aren't punished. --[[User:Auraseer\|Auraseer]] 03:57, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
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		+	==multiconduct benefits==
		+	* steal as a chaotic and repay as a lawful to gain alignment record. Relevant to atheist pacifist.
		+	* dip Excalibur for pets
		+	* sanctuary in an originally cross-aligned temple. Though it's not so clear why that is good.
		+	* dig up graves as a born non-lawful. Relevant to atheist pacifists, who have a hard time raising alignment.
		+	* the mines are easier for lawul non-pacifists because so many monsters are peaceful. But for pacifists, pets will still deplete their HP on peacefuls. --[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] ([[User talk:Tjr\|talk]]) 21:55, 4 May 2013 (UTC)

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	So, are lawfuls-turned-chaotic not penalized for murder? [[User:Aeronflux\|Aeronflux]] 00:12, 1 March 2009 (UTC)		So, are lawfuls-turned-chaotic not penalized for murder? [[User:Aeronflux\|Aeronflux]] 00:12, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
		+	* Behavior is always rewarded or penalized based on your current alignment. As long as you're Chaotic at the moment you commit murder, you aren't punished. --[[User:Auraseer\|Auraseer]] 03:57, 1 March 2009 (UTC)