https://nethackwiki.com/index.php?action=history&feed=atom&title=Talk%3AHole 2026-06-04T00:45:51Z Revision history for this page on the wiki MediaWiki 1.32.5 https://nethackwiki.com/index.php?title=Talk:Hole&diff=98233&oldid=prev 2015-12-16T21:43:45Z

<p>‎<span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">All eligible tiles...: </span> new section</span></p> <table class="diff diff-contentalign-left" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #222; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #222; text-align: center;">Revision as of 21:43, 16 December 2015</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l5" >Line 5:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 5:</td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"></td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:No, the game checks for Sokoban first. --[[User:Tjr|Tjr]] 15:06, 14 September 2011 (UTC)</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:No, the game checks for Sokoban first. --[[User:Tjr|Tjr]] 15:06, 14 September 2011 (UTC)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">== All eligible tiles... ==</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">Pursuant to the phrase, &quot;[a]ll eligible tiles of your destination level are equally likely,&quot; is there anywhere in the wiki that describes which tiles are eligible?  Empirically, I suspect that the eligible tiles include anywhere within a room (in the Dungeons of Doom) and anywhere in a randomly-generated section of a Gehennom labyrinth.  So, not a [[corridor]], not a [[closet]], not a [[vault]] -- but this is just an assumption based on where I've fallen from time to time.  There are clearly special cases depending on where you're landing; I'm sure you can't just drop anywhere into the Castle or Medusa's Island or Juiblex's Swamp... or can you?  Is the same list of &quot;eligible tiles&quot; used for levelporting and for dropping through holes?  Is the quest nemesis layer of the Rogue Quest a special case?  [[User:Delbow|Delbow]] ([[User talk:Delbow|talk]]) 21:43, 16 December 2015 (UTC)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

Delbow https://nethackwiki.com/index.php?title=Talk:Hole&diff=73161&oldid=prev 2011-09-14T15:06:39Z

<p></p> <table class="diff diff-contentalign-left" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #222; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #222; text-align: center;">Revision as of 15:06, 14 September 2011</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l3" >Line 3:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 3:</td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>  walk across them. Flying creatures can also traverse holes.  </div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>  walk across them. Flying creatures can also traverse holes.  </div></td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>does this mean that players polyed into dragons finish sokoban quickly? --[[Special:Contributions/194.116.198.179|194.116.198.179]] 11:57, 14 September 2011 (UTC)</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>does this mean that players polyed into dragons finish sokoban quickly? --[[Special:Contributions/194.116.198.179|194.116.198.179]] 11:57, 14 September 2011 (UTC)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:No, the game checks for Sokoban first. --[[User:Tjr|Tjr]] 15:06, 14 September 2011 (UTC)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

Tjr https://nethackwiki.com/index.php?title=Talk:Hole&diff=73157&oldid=prev 2011-09-14T11:57:16Z

<p>‎<span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">tdttoe: </span> signs point to no, needs note</span></p> <p><b>New page</b></p><div>==tdttoe==<br /> Creatures of size &quot;huge&quot; or larger will not fit into holes or pits and can <br /> walk across them. Flying creatures can also traverse holes. <br /> does this mean that players polyed into dragons finish sokoban quickly? --[[Special:Contributions/194.116.198.179|194.116.198.179]] 11:57, 14 September 2011 (UTC)</div>

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