Talk:IBMgraphics - Revision history

WildPenguin: /* luit solution described here does not work */ -> a solution

2023-12-05T13:27:12Z

‎luit solution described here does not work: -> a solution

Elronnd: /* IBMgraphics work fine on the FreeBSD console */ new section

2016-07-30T17:45:28Z

‎IBMgraphics work fine on the FreeBSD console: new section

82.128.198.8: /* luit solution described here does not work */ new section

2011-08-27T19:21:36Z

‎luit solution described here does not work: new section

Tjr: /* missing links */ new section

2011-08-27T11:55:39Z

‎missing links: new section

Dr. 8-Bit: /* Answer re IBMgraphics vs DECgraphics */ Oops

2010-06-15T20:06:35Z

‎Answer re IBMgraphics vs DECgraphics: Oops

Dr. 8-Bit: /* Answer re IBMgraphics vs DECgraphics */

2010-06-15T20:06:10Z

‎Answer re IBMgraphics vs DECgraphics

Ray Chason: /* Answer re IBMgraphics vs DECgraphics */ new section

2009-06-09T17:12:43Z

‎Answer re IBMgraphics vs DECgraphics: new section

Rogerb-on-NAO: /* Issue using CP437 on PuTTY */ new section

2008-07-13T09:43:23Z

‎Issue using CP437 on PuTTY: new section

Ray Chason: Need older terminal programs for bitmap fonts

2007-07-06T15:37:37Z

Need older terminal programs for bitmap fonts

209.151.236.12 at 14:02, 6 July 2007

2007-07-06T14:02:30Z

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 No matter what I do, the luit solution here does not work (neither for locally started Nethack or on servers). Most of the game map is black instead.
 == IBMgraphics work fine on the FreeBSD console ==
 At least in my experience, IBMgraphics work without any modification on the FreeBSD console.  If there are no complaints within the next week, I think I'll edit that in. <span style="background:green;border-radius:15px 0 0 8px">[[user:Elronnd|Elronnd]]</span><span style="background: orange;border-radius:0 8px 15px 0">[[user_talk:Elronnd|(talk)]]</span> 17:45, 30 July 2016 (UTC)

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	No matter what I do, the luit solution here does not work (neither for locally started Nethack or on servers). Most of the game map is black instead.		No matter what I do, the luit solution here does not work (neither for locally started Nethack or on servers). Most of the game map is black instead.
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		+	== IBMgraphics work fine on the FreeBSD console ==
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		+	At least in my experience, IBMgraphics work without any modification on the FreeBSD console. If there are no complaints within the next week, I think I'll edit that in. <span style="background:green;border-radius:15px 0 0 8px">[[user:Elronnd\|Elronnd]]</span><span style="background: orange;border-radius:0 8px 15px 0">[[user_talk:Elronnd\|(talk)]]</span> 17:45, 30 July 2016 (UTC)

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	82.128.198.8 added: '''COMMENT: Where can one find konwert or filterm? They are not on my distro, and can't find them via Google... someone please put links here ;-)''' --[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] 11:55, 27 August 2011 (UTC)		82.128.198.8 added: '''COMMENT: Where can one find konwert or filterm? They are not on my distro, and can't find them via Google... someone please put links here ;-)''' --[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] 11:55, 27 August 2011 (UTC)
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		+	== luit solution described here does not work ==
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		+	No matter what I do, the luit solution here does not work (neither for locally started Nethack or on servers). Most of the game map is black instead.

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	--[[User:Ray Chason\|Ray Chason]] 17:12, 9 June 2009 (UTC)		--[[User:Ray Chason\|Ray Chason]] 17:12, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
	:Also, if you're connecting to a public server using Windows's default telnet client, use IBMgraphics. [[User:Dr. 8-Bit\|Dr. 8-Bit]] 20:06, June 15, 2010 (UTC)		:Also, if you're connecting to a public server using Windows's default telnet client, use IBMgraphics. [[User:Dr. 8-Bit\|Dr. 8-Bit]] 20:06, June 15, 2010 (UTC)
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		+	== missing links ==
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		+	82.128.198.8 added: '''COMMENT: Where can one find konwert or filterm? They are not on my distro, and can't find them via Google... someone please put links here ;-)''' --[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] 11:55, 27 August 2011 (UTC)

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 * If you're playing on Linux using only the text interface, use either IBMgraphics or DECgraphics.
 * If you're using any version of [[X11]] (aka "X-Windows"), on any operating system, and using a terminal emulator within that, use DECgraphics.
 --[[User:Ray Chason|Ray Chason]] 17:12, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

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 == Answer re IBMgraphics vs DECgraphics ==
-To 88.73.241.94:  I'm not too sure how to fit this into the article, so I'll say it on the talk page.  The main purpose of either IBMgraphics or DECgraphics is to draw the walls in continuous lines, a thing not possible using just ASCII.  The one that's better depends mainly on your operating system and configuration.
+To 88.73.241.94: I'm not too sure how to fit this into the article, so I'll say it on the talk page. The main purpose of either IBMgraphics or DECgraphics is to draw the walls in continuous lines, a thing not possible using just ASCII. The one that's better depends mainly on your operating system and configuration.
-The short rule is this:  Use the one that looks better.
+The short rule is this: Use the one that looks better.
 The long rule is this:
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 * If you're playing on Linux using only the text interface, use either IBMgraphics or DECgraphics.
 * If you're using any version of [[X11]] (aka "X-Windows"), on any operating system, and using a terminal emulator within that, use DECgraphics.
 --[[User:Ray Chason|Ray Chason]] 17:12, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

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	--[[User:Rogerb-on-NAO\|Rogerb-on-NAO]] 09:43, 13 July 2008 (UTC)		--[[User:Rogerb-on-NAO\|Rogerb-on-NAO]] 09:43, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
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		+	== Answer re IBMgraphics vs DECgraphics ==
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		+	To 88.73.241.94: I'm not too sure how to fit this into the article, so I'll say it on the talk page. The main purpose of either IBMgraphics or DECgraphics is to draw the walls in continuous lines, a thing not possible using just ASCII. The one that's better depends mainly on your operating system and configuration.
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		+	The short rule is this: Use the one that looks better.
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		+	The long rule is this:
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		+	* If you're playing on a [[public server]] (you're probably playing on Linux, even if you're accessing it with a copy of PuTTY on Windows), use DECgraphics.
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		+	* If you're playing directly on [[MS-DOS]], Windows, or OS/2, use IBMgraphics.
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		+	* If you're playing on Linux using only the text interface, use either IBMgraphics or DECgraphics.
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		+	* If you're using any version of [[X11]] (aka "X-Windows"), on any operating system, and using a terminal emulator within that, use DECgraphics.
		+	--[[User:Ray Chason\|Ray Chason]] 17:12, 9 June 2009 (UTC)

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	::Later versions of Konsole and gnome-terminal had the brilliant idea of not providing any way to select a bitmap font (which anything ending in pcf will be). You'll have to run xterm or one of those others instead.--[[User:Ray Chason\|Ray Chason]] 15:37, 6 July 2007 (UTC)		::Later versions of Konsole and gnome-terminal had the brilliant idea of not providing any way to select a bitmap font (which anything ending in pcf will be). You'll have to run xterm or one of those others instead.--[[User:Ray Chason\|Ray Chason]] 15:37, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
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		+	== Issue using CP437 on PuTTY ==
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		+	I use PuTTY on Windows XP (SP3) with CP437 set to connect to NAO. My rc file there sets IBMgraphics. Everything works correctly, until I visit the Rogue level, at which point the character representing the player is not shown, and characters to the right of my position are sometimes moved one character to the left.
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		+	An easy workaround is to unset IBMgraphics when on the Rogue level. I tried setting the PuTTY font to Lucida Console, but no luck. I was wondering if anyone else had this issue, and whether there was a better solution?
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		+	--[[User:Rogerb-on-NAO\|Rogerb-on-NAO]] 09:43, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

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	:This is actually not quite right. While individual terminal programs may offer additional codepages or translations of their own, every X11 program has access to all the installed X11 fonts, so if you just install the right X11 vga font, then any terminal program (or indeed, any other X11 app) should be able to make use of it. The above-mentioned vga font from bochs is in http://switch.dl.sf.net/bochs/bochs-2.0.tar.gz - explode it and look for vga.pcf. Another one is distributed with BitchX: ftp://ftp.bitchx.org/pub/BitchX/misc/vga11x19.tar.gz - explode it and look for vga11x19.pcf. In both cases, after installing the font, you just run your terminal program (xterm, rxvt, eterm, whatever) with "-fn vga" or "-fn vga11x19" as appopriate.		:This is actually not quite right. While individual terminal programs may offer additional codepages or translations of their own, every X11 program has access to all the installed X11 fonts, so if you just install the right X11 vga font, then any terminal program (or indeed, any other X11 app) should be able to make use of it. The above-mentioned vga font from bochs is in http://switch.dl.sf.net/bochs/bochs-2.0.tar.gz - explode it and look for vga.pcf. Another one is distributed with BitchX: ftp://ftp.bitchx.org/pub/BitchX/misc/vga11x19.tar.gz - explode it and look for vga11x19.pcf. In both cases, after installing the font, you just run your terminal program (xterm, rxvt, eterm, whatever) with "-fn vga" or "-fn vga11x19" as appopriate.
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		+	::Later versions of Konsole and gnome-terminal had the brilliant idea of not providing any way to select a bitmap font (which anything ending in pcf will be). You'll have to run xterm or one of those others instead.--[[User:Ray Chason\|Ray Chason]] 15:37, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

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	:For X11, it depends on what terminal program you're using: xterm, Konsole, gnome-terminal, or something else. For these, it may be easier to use DECgraphics instead. Perhaps you might start that section, and tell us how you configure your terminal program? Be sure to note what terminal program you're using, or at least whether you're using KDE, Gnome, or something else.		:For X11, it depends on what terminal program you're using: xterm, Konsole, gnome-terminal, or something else. For these, it may be easier to use DECgraphics instead. Perhaps you might start that section, and tell us how you configure your terminal program? Be sure to note what terminal program you're using, or at least whether you're using KDE, Gnome, or something else.
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		+	:This is actually not quite right. While individual terminal programs may offer additional codepages or translations of their own, every X11 program has access to all the installed X11 fonts, so if you just install the right X11 vga font, then any terminal program (or indeed, any other X11 app) should be able to make use of it. The above-mentioned vga font from bochs is in http://switch.dl.sf.net/bochs/bochs-2.0.tar.gz - explode it and look for vga.pcf. Another one is distributed with BitchX: ftp://ftp.bitchx.org/pub/BitchX/misc/vga11x19.tar.gz - explode it and look for vga11x19.pcf. In both cases, after installing the font, you just run your terminal program (xterm, rxvt, eterm, whatever) with "-fn vga" or "-fn vga11x19" as appopriate.