Talk:Jay Fenlason's Hack - Revision history

Umbire the Phantom: reply

2026-03-06T21:21:48Z

Critlist: /* Page organization suggestion */

2026-03-06T15:45:13Z

‎Page organization suggestion

Umbire the Phantom: /* Page organization suggestion */

2026-02-20T16:26:37Z

‎Page organization suggestion

Critlist: /* Page organization suggestion */ new section

2026-02-05T19:46:06Z

‎Page organization suggestion: new section

Umbire the Phantom: /* Fenlason's Hack creation and distribution dates */ paging paxed and uh... whoever else I can think of

2024-06-05T21:09:37Z

‎Fenlason's Hack creation and distribution dates: paging paxed and uh... whoever else I can think of

ExploradorRPG: /* Fenlason's Hack creation and distribution dates */ new section

2024-05-28T22:36:11Z

‎Fenlason's Hack creation and distribution dates: new section

80.42.25.36 at 21:51, 31 March 2015

2015-03-31T21:51:19Z

31.48.186.68: Wrong link, sorry.

2015-03-29T11:16:15Z

Wrong link, sorry.

31.48.186.68: /* A tarball of the source? */ fix my typo

2015-03-29T11:13:26Z

‎A tarball of the source?: fix my typo

31.48.186.68: /* A tarball of the source? */

2015-03-29T11:11:31Z

‎A tarball of the source?

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	[[User:Critlist\|Critlist]] ([[User talk:Critlist\|talk]]) 15:44, 6 March 2026 (UTC)		[[User:Critlist\|Critlist]] ([[User talk:Critlist\|talk]]) 15:44, 6 March 2026 (UTC)
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		+	:Yep, perfectly reasonable - probably what I'd do in your position. Draft away as much as you like! --[[User:Umbire the Phantom\|Umbire the Phantom]] ([[User talk:Umbire the Phantom\|talk]]) 21:21, 6 March 2026 (UTC)

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	:Sure, I wouldn't mind. Anyone else? --[[User:Umbire the Phantom\|Umbire the Phantom]] ([[User talk:Umbire the Phantom\|talk]]) 16:26, 20 February 2026 (UTC)		:Sure, I wouldn't mind. Anyone else? --[[User:Umbire the Phantom\|Umbire the Phantom]] ([[User talk:Umbire the Phantom\|talk]]) 16:26, 20 February 2026 (UTC)
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		+	:Thanks for the reply.
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		+	What I had in mind was mainly a structural reorganization so that the early development history of Hack is easier to follow chronologically. Right now several pieces of historical information are present on the page but somewhat compressed together, which makes the progression from Fenlason’s original work through later variants harder to see.
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		+	One model that might work well is the structure used on the ''Hack 1.0'' page, which separates historical context from gameplay and content details. Applying a similar approach here could make the page easier to navigate without changing the underlying information.
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		+	A possible outline might look like:
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		+	* '''Background and development (1981–1982)'''
		+	* '''Early variants and ports'''
		+	* '''Relationship to later Hack versions'''
		+	* '''Gameplay structure'''
		+	* '''Monsters and objects'''
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		+	The goal wouldn’t be to introduce new claims initially, only to reorganize the existing material so the development timeline and gameplay descriptions are more clearly separated.
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		+	If this seems reasonable, I’d be happy to draft a sandbox version first so the reorganization can be reviewed before editing the live page.
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		+	[[User:Critlist\|Critlist]] ([[User talk:Critlist\|talk]]) 15:44, 6 March 2026 (UTC)

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	— [[User:Critlist\|Critlist]] ([[User talk:Critlist\|talk]]) 19:46, 5 February 2026 (UTC)		— [[User:Critlist\|Critlist]] ([[User talk:Critlist\|talk]]) 19:46, 5 February 2026 (UTC)
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		+	:Sure, I wouldn't mind. Anyone else? --[[User:Umbire the Phantom\|Umbire the Phantom]] ([[User talk:Umbire the Phantom\|talk]]) 16:26, 20 February 2026 (UTC)

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	:Might be worthwhile. Can poke some admins and/or interested Spanish-speaking editors about it. --[[User:Umbire the Phantom\|Umbire the Phantom]] ([[User talk:Umbire the Phantom\|talk]]) 21:08, 5 June 2024 (UTC)		:Might be worthwhile. Can poke some admins and/or interested Spanish-speaking editors about it. --[[User:Umbire the Phantom\|Umbire the Phantom]] ([[User talk:Umbire the Phantom\|talk]]) 21:08, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
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		+	== Page organization suggestion ==
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		+	Hi, given recently recovered source code and ongoing discussion around early Hack history, I wanted to check a possible structural change before editing the page.
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		+	I think this article could benefit from following a structure similar to Andries’ Hack v1.0. That page separates historical context, technical description, and later lineage in a way that makes early versions much easier to follow.
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		+	The goal wouldn’t be to reframe anything around Brouwer’s Hack, just to reuse a similar structure so that Fenlason’s original Hack, hack121, and early ports are more clearly separated and presented in sequence. Right now some of the material is solid but a bit compressed, which can make the distinctions harder to see.
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		+	If this sounds reasonable, I’m happy to draft a proposed reorganization for review rather than editing directly.
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		+	— [[User:Critlist\|Critlist]] ([[User talk:Critlist\|talk]]) 19:46, 5 February 2026 (UTC)

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		+	:Might be worthwhile. Can poke some admins and/or interested Spanish-speaking editors about it. --[[User:Umbire the Phantom\|Umbire the Phantom]] ([[User talk:Umbire the Phantom\|talk]]) 21:08, 5 June 2024 (UTC)

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	[[User:Neozeed\|Neozeed]] ([[User talk:Neozeed\|talk]]) 03:04, 30 October 2014 (UTC)		[[User:Neozeed\|Neozeed]] ([[User talk:Neozeed\|talk]]) 03:04, 30 October 2014 (UTC)
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		+	== Fenlason's Hack creation and distribution dates ==
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		+	I've been researching the original version of Fenlason using links on this wiki, interviews with the authors, and old archived documents, and the conclusion is that the game was started in 1981, and was distributed on the first USENIX tape in 1982.
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		+	On my website I explain it and link to all the sources, the only bad thing is that it is in Spanish, but I think it will be understood well with the automatic translation:
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		+	https://exploradorrpg.wordpress.com/juegos/hack/

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	Here you are (temporarily hosting on Google Drive): https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B62bIXPmp62eRjZNTTRYanRhcDg/edit?usp=docslist_api -- [[Special:Contributions/31.48.186.68\|31.48.186.68]] 11:11, 29 March 2015 (UTC)		Here you are (temporarily hosting on Google Drive): https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B62bIXPmp62eRjZNTTRYanRhcDg/edit?usp=docslist_api -- [[Special:Contributions/31.48.186.68\|31.48.186.68]] 11:11, 29 March 2015 (UTC)
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		+	Assuming you meant the Huisjes-Wilde PDP-11 sources, that is. -- [[Special:Contributions/80.42.25.36\|80.42.25.36]] 21:51, 31 March 2015 (UTC)

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