Talk:Knight - Revision history

Wooble: /* Apple feeding */

2012-12-17T15:33:45Z

‎Apple feeding

Bulwersator: /* Apple feeding */ new section

2012-12-17T07:59:42Z

‎Apple feeding: new section

Qazmlpok: /* Ridden monsters and spells */

2010-06-25T01:51:21Z

‎Ridden monsters and spells

Ion frigate at 01:43, 25 June 2010

2010-06-25T01:43:00Z

Tjr: various replies.

2010-04-06T00:41:29Z

various replies.

Lord Seth: /* Ki-Rins and conflict */ new section

2010-03-28T06:22:31Z

‎Ki-Rins and conflict: new section

Aeronflux at 20:38, 7 January 2009

2009-01-07T20:38:31Z

Skidragon: /* HP lost if unsuccessful mount */

2008-06-05T22:34:29Z

‎HP lost if unsuccessful mount

Skidragon: /* HP lost if unsuccessful mount */ new section

2008-06-05T21:36:15Z

‎HP lost if unsuccessful mount: new section

Gneek: Speed (boots)?

2008-05-22T14:34:22Z

Speed (boots)?

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	It may be even better to wait till pony will drop item, to increase also [[apport]]. [[User:Bulwersator\|Bulwersator]] ([[User talk:Bulwersator\|talk]]) 07:59, 17 December 2012 (UTC)		It may be even better to wait till pony will drop item, to increase also [[apport]]. [[User:Bulwersator\|Bulwersator]] ([[User talk:Bulwersator\|talk]]) 07:59, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
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		+	:No "may be" about it. Of course this is a better strategy. [[User:Wooble\|Wooble]] ([[User talk:Wooble\|talk]]) 15:33, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

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	On the [[Knight]] page it mentions that ki-rins can heal themselves. Will they do this while riding, or do you have to dismount for them to cast spells? It seems like it'd be worth mentioning if you did have to dismount. -[[User:Ion frigate\|Ion frigate]] 01:43, June 25, 2010 (UTC)		On the [[Knight]] page it mentions that ki-rins can heal themselves. Will they do this while riding, or do you have to dismount for them to cast spells? It seems like it'd be worth mentioning if you did have to dismount. -[[User:Ion frigate\|Ion frigate]] 01:43, June 25, 2010 (UTC)
	:I've only riden a Ki-rin a few times, but yes, they will cast spells while you are riding them. -- [[User:Qazmlpok\|Qazmlpok]] 01:51, June 25, 2010 (UTC)		:I've only riden a Ki-rin a few times, but yes, they will cast spells while you are riding them. -- [[User:Qazmlpok\|Qazmlpok]] 01:51, June 25, 2010 (UTC)
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		+	== Apple feeding ==
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		+	"One good strategy is to feed your horse 9 of your starting apples as soon as you enter the dungeon."
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		+	It may be even better to wait till pony will drop item, to increase also [[apport]]. [[User:Bulwersator\|Bulwersator]] ([[User talk:Bulwersator\|talk]]) 07:59, 17 December 2012 (UTC)

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	==Ridden monsters and spells==		==Ridden monsters and spells==
	On the [[Knight]] page it mentions that ki-rins can heal themselves. Will they do this while riding, or do you have to dismount for them to cast spells? It seems like it'd be worth mentioning if you did have to dismount. -[[User:Ion frigate\|Ion frigate]] 01:43, June 25, 2010 (UTC)		On the [[Knight]] page it mentions that ki-rins can heal themselves. Will they do this while riding, or do you have to dismount for them to cast spells? It seems like it'd be worth mentioning if you did have to dismount. -[[User:Ion frigate\|Ion frigate]] 01:43, June 25, 2010 (UTC)
		+	:I've only riden a Ki-rin a few times, but yes, they will cast spells while you are riding them. -- [[User:Qazmlpok\|Qazmlpok]] 01:51, June 25, 2010 (UTC)

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	I mentioned that Ki-Rins resist conflict and don't buck, but it was changed to say that they only have "a high chance" to. Are you sure? Someone showed me the source code regarding conflict and MR and calculated that Ki-Rins have a high enough MR that it will ALWAYS resist conflict (see link [http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=7831991&postcount=169 here]). Further enforcing this is my own experience: I do not recall, in all my time playing NetHack, EVER having a Ki-Rin buck me while conflict was up. And I've often played through half the game with conflict up due to the Sceptre of Might. [[User:Lord Seth\|Lord Seth]] 06:22, March 28, 2010 (UTC)		I mentioned that Ki-Rins resist conflict and don't buck, but it was changed to say that they only have "a high chance" to. Are you sure? Someone showed me the source code regarding conflict and MR and calculated that Ki-Rins have a high enough MR that it will ALWAYS resist conflict (see link [http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=7831991&postcount=169 here]). Further enforcing this is my own experience: I do not recall, in all my time playing NetHack, EVER having a Ki-Rin buck me while conflict was up. And I've often played through half the game with conflict up due to the Sceptre of Might. [[User:Lord Seth\|Lord Seth]] 06:22, March 28, 2010 (UTC)
	: You're right. Thanks, Lord Seth. Details can be found at [[riding]].		: You're right. Thanks, Lord Seth. Details can be found at [[riding]].
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		+	==Ridden monsters and spells==
		+	On the [[Knight]] page it mentions that ki-rins can heal themselves. Will they do this while riding, or do you have to dismount for them to cast spells? It seems like it'd be worth mentioning if you did have to dismount. -[[User:Ion frigate\|Ion frigate]] 01:43, June 25, 2010 (UTC)

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 A reference for the statement that an apple/carrot will keep your horse fed as long as a full ration will keep you fed would be nice.
 If you have reflection and are riding your horse, will this protect it from blasts of disintegration or not?
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 What exactly is a quest monster? When clicked on, you just go to the Quest page, but i don't see anything about it there... [[User:Aeronflux|Aeronflux]] 20:38, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
 == Ki-Rins and conflict ==
 I mentioned that Ki-Rins resist conflict and don't buck, but it was changed to say that they only have "a high chance" to. Are you sure? Someone showed me the source code regarding conflict and MR and calculated that Ki-Rins have a high enough MR that it will ALWAYS resist conflict (see link [http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=7831991&postcount=169 here]). Further enforcing this is my own experience: I do not recall, in all my time playing NetHack, EVER having a Ki-Rin buck me while conflict was up. And I've often played through half the game with conflict up due to the Sceptre of Might. [[User:Lord Seth|Lord Seth]] 06:22, March 28, 2010 (UTC)

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	What exactly is a quest monster? When clicked on, you just go to the Quest page, but i don't see anything about it there... [[User:Aeronflux\|Aeronflux]] 20:38, 7 January 2009 (UTC)		What exactly is a quest monster? When clicked on, you just go to the Quest page, but i don't see anything about it there... [[User:Aeronflux\|Aeronflux]] 20:38, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
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		+	== Ki-Rins and conflict ==
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		+	I mentioned that Ki-Rins resist conflict and don't buck, but it was changed to say that they only have "a high chance" to. Are you sure? Someone showed me the source code regarding conflict and MR and calculated that Ki-Rins have a high enough MR that it will ALWAYS resist conflict (see link [http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showpost.php?p=7831991&postcount=169 here]). Further enforcing this is my own experience: I do not recall, in all my time playing NetHack, EVER having a Ki-Rin buck me while conflict was up. And I've often played through half the game with conflict up due to the Sceptre of Might. [[User:Lord Seth\|Lord Seth]] 06:22, March 28, 2010 (UTC)

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	Further research reveals the HP lost for falling or being thrown while riding IS 10 to 20; rn1(10,10) from steed.c line 486. This means if your HPs fall below 20 while riding and you subsequently fall, you will die!		Further research reveals the HP lost for falling or being thrown while riding IS 10 to 20; rn1(10,10) from steed.c line 486. This means if your HPs fall below 20 while riding and you subsequently fall, you will die!
	[[User:Skidragon\|Skidragon]] 21:36, 5 June 2008 (UTC)		[[User:Skidragon\|Skidragon]] 21:36, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
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		+	==Quest monster==
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		+	What exactly is a quest monster? When clicked on, you just go to the Quest page, but i don't see anything about it there... [[User:Aeronflux\|Aeronflux]] 20:38, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

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	I believe the number of HP lost for an unsuccessful mount is 10 to 15, rather than 20. steed.c line 327 calls losehp with the argument rn1(5,10). Note that is rn1 with the number one, not rnl with the letter l. hack.h line 291 defines rn1 as (rn2(x)+(y)).		I believe the number of HP lost for an unsuccessful mount is 10 to 15, rather than 20. steed.c line 327 calls losehp with the argument rn1(5,10). Note that is rn1 with the number one, not rnl with the letter l. hack.h line 291 defines rn1 as (rn2(x)+(y)).
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		+	Further research reveals the HP lost for falling or being thrown while riding IS 10 to 20; rn1(10,10) from steed.c line 486. This means if your HPs fall below 20 while riding and you subsequently fall, you will die!
	[[User:Skidragon\|Skidragon]] 21:36, 5 June 2008 (UTC)		[[User:Skidragon\|Skidragon]] 21:36, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

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	Hm... this doesn't really makes sense... you can only joust a monster when you're riding, right? But the article suggests that you get speed boots so that you can move faster. But even if you have speed boots on, you move at your steed's speed! But if you're '''not''' riding, what good is a lance?		Hm... this doesn't really makes sense... you can only joust a monster when you're riding, right? But the article suggests that you get speed boots so that you can move faster. But even if you have speed boots on, you move at your steed's speed! But if you're '''not''' riding, what good is a lance?
	--[[User:Gneek\|Gneek]] 14:34, 22 May 2008 (UTC)		--[[User:Gneek\|Gneek]] 14:34, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
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		+	== HP lost if unsuccessful mount ==
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		+	I believe the number of HP lost for an unsuccessful mount is 10 to 15, rather than 20. steed.c line 327 calls losehp with the argument rn1(5,10). Note that is rn1 with the number one, not rnl with the letter l. hack.h line 291 defines rn1 as (rn2(x)+(y)).
		+	[[User:Skidragon\|Skidragon]] 21:36, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

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	:Yeah, it's in there under '''Abilities'''. --[[User:Andronikus\|Andronikus]] 02:32, 1 April 2008 (UTC)		:Yeah, it's in there under '''Abilities'''. --[[User:Andronikus\|Andronikus]] 02:32, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
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		+	==Speed==
		+	The speed section of the article mentions:
		+	"...At 7th level you will become fast, but becoming very fast (eg by getting boots of speed) will
		+	make your jousting much more effective..."
		+	Hm... this doesn't really makes sense... you can only joust a monster when you're riding, right? But the article suggests that you get speed boots so that you can move faster. But even if you have speed boots on, you move at your steed's speed! But if you're '''not''' riding, what good is a lance?
		+	--[[User:Gneek\|Gneek]] 14:34, 22 May 2008 (UTC)