Talk:Luck - Revision history

Emdoub: /* Two requests - New Moon and unicorns */

2019-09-26T18:55:50Z

Two requests - New Moon and unicorns

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	: The new moon doesn't affect luck, but it ''does'' affect [[cockatrice]] encounters. Starting or resuming the game on Friday the 13th lowers your base luck.		: The new moon doesn't affect luck, but it ''does'' affect [[cockatrice]] encounters. Starting or resuming the game on Friday the 13th lowers your base luck.
	: Also, sacrificing a unicorn in that manner gives you an alignment bonus in addition to the normal result of the sacrifice, and adds 3 to the sacrifice value. This means your prayer timeout will be reduced by more if positive, or you'll gain two points of luck instead of one. - [[User:Andrio Celos\|Andrio Celos]] ([[User talk:Andrio Celos\|talk]]) 07:26, 26 September 2019 (UTC)		: Also, sacrificing a unicorn in that manner gives you an alignment bonus in addition to the normal result of the sacrifice, and adds 3 to the sacrifice value. This means your prayer timeout will be reduced by more if positive, or you'll gain two points of luck instead of one. - [[User:Andrio Celos\|Andrio Celos]] ([[User talk:Andrio Celos\|talk]]) 07:26, 26 September 2019 (UTC)

			Thank you, Andrio Celos. ——[[User:Emdoub\|Emdoub]] ([[User talk:Emdoub\|talk]]) 18:55, 26 September 2019 (UTC)

Andrio Celos: /* Two requests - New Moon and unicorns */

2019-09-26T07:27:30Z

Two requests - New Moon and unicorns

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	I understand that sacrificing a cross-aligned unicorn on a co-aligned altar does good things for my alignment, but does it do anything for my luck? A clarification for the clueless dweebs like me would be appreciated. ——[[User:Emdoub\|Emdoub]] ([[User talk:Emdoub\|talk]]) 07:12, 26 September 2019 (UTC)		I understand that sacrificing a cross-aligned unicorn on a co-aligned altar does good things for my alignment, but does it do anything for my luck? A clarification for the clueless dweebs like me would be appreciated. ——[[User:Emdoub\|Emdoub]] ([[User talk:Emdoub\|talk]]) 07:12, 26 September 2019 (UTC)

			: {{main\|Time#Moon phase and date}}
			: The new moon doesn't affect luck, but it ''does'' affect [[cockatrice]] encounters. Starting or resuming the game on Friday the 13th lowers your base luck.
			: Also, sacrificing a unicorn in that manner gives you an alignment bonus in addition to the normal result of the sacrifice, and adds 3 to the sacrifice value. This means your prayer timeout will be reduced by more if positive, or you'll gain two points of luck instead of one. - [[User:Andrio Celos\|Andrio Celos]] ([[User talk:Andrio Celos\|talk]]) 07:26, 26 September 2019 (UTC)

Emdoub: /* Two requests - New Moon and unicorns */ new section

2019-09-26T07:12:02Z

Two requests - New Moon and unicorns: new section

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	If I'm carrying a blessed luckstone and jump a lot in Sokoban, will my Luck time out to a total of zero or three? --[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] 14:59, 27 May 2011 (UTC)		If I'm carrying a blessed luckstone and jump a lot in Sokoban, will my Luck time out to a total of zero or three? --[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] 14:59, 27 May 2011 (UTC)
	:3. Your base luck is still 0, then there's the +3 luck for having a non-cursed luckstone. -- [[User:Qazmlpok\|Qazmlpok]] 15:28, 27 May 2011 (UTC)		:3. Your base luck is still 0, then there's the +3 luck for having a non-cursed luckstone. -- [[User:Qazmlpok\|Qazmlpok]] 15:28, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

			== Two requests - New Moon and unicorns ==

			From what I'm reading here, the message "Be careful - new moon tonight" is really irrelevant - the new moon doesn't really decrease my luck any. I'm a tad skeptical of this interpretation - perhaps someone who knows more than I do could clarify this on the page?

			I understand that sacrificing a cross-aligned unicorn on a co-aligned altar does good things for my alignment, but does it do anything for my luck? A clarification for the clueless dweebs like me would be appreciated. ——[[User:Emdoub\|Emdoub]] ([[User talk:Emdoub\|talk]]) 07:12, 26 September 2019 (UTC)

Qazmlpok: /* timeout and bonus luck */

2011-05-27T15:28:12Z

timeout and bonus luck

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	If I'm carrying a blessed luckstone and jump a lot in Sokoban, will my Luck time out to a total of zero or three? --[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] 14:59, 27 May 2011 (UTC)		If I'm carrying a blessed luckstone and jump a lot in Sokoban, will my Luck time out to a total of zero or three? --[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] 14:59, 27 May 2011 (UTC)
			:3. Your base luck is still 0, then there's the +3 luck for having a non-cursed luckstone. -- [[User:Qazmlpok\|Qazmlpok]] 15:28, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

Tjr: /* timeout and bonus luck */ new section

2011-05-27T14:59:43Z

timeout and bonus luck: new section

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	:PS: Please sign your posts, either with the signature button or with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). -[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] 10:20, 17 August 2009 (UTC)		:PS: Please sign your posts, either with the signature button or with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). -[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] 10:20, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

			== timeout and bonus luck ==

			If I'm carrying a blessed luckstone and jump a lot in Sokoban, will my Luck time out to a total of zero or three? --[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] 14:59, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

Tjr: please do correct errors you find!

2010-09-14T15:56:28Z

please do correct errors you find!

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	Under the "Altar" page, it says you get -1 luck for failing to convert an altar, and +2 for successfully converting an altar. The table on this page says you get +1 for successfully converting an altar. Which is correct?		Under the "Altar" page, it says you get -1 luck for failing to convert an altar, and +2 for successfully converting an altar. The table on this page says you get +1 for successfully converting an altar. Which is correct?
	:Just checked the source. Unless it does something really weird that I'm not seeing, it's +1 luck on a successful conversion. -- [[User:Qazmlpok\|Qazmlpok]] 12:00, September 14, 2010 (UTC)		:Just checked the source. Unless it does something really weird that I'm not seeing, it's +1 luck on a successful conversion. -- [[User:Qazmlpok\|Qazmlpok]] 12:00, September 14, 2010 (UTC)
			::By all means, do correct the articles if you find errors! (Done in this case.)[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] 15:56, September 14, 2010 (UTC)


			==Bullwhip tricks==
	Under "Luck in-game effects" it states that luck increases the chance of "Picking something off the floor by applying your whip."		Under "Luck in-game effects" it states that luck increases the chance of "Picking something off the floor by applying your whip."

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	:You have to be levitating or riding, and you must apply the whip at {{gray\|.}} or {{gray\|>}}. In wizard mode I was able to pick up a diamond while levitating and while riding. -- [[User:Killian\|Killian]] 03:24, 30 July 2008 (UTC)		:You have to be levitating or riding, and you must apply the whip at {{gray\|.}} or {{gray\|>}}. In wizard mode I was able to pick up a diamond while levitating and while riding. -- [[User:Killian\|Killian]] 03:24, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

			==Displacing pets==
	Is there a relationship between luck and the possibility of displacing one's pet? I had a roomful of flame spheres in SLASH'EM once and couldn't move through them because my luck was so low.[[User:Ih fek\|Ih fek]] 18:46, 10 March 2009 (UTC)		Is there a relationship between luck and the possibility of displacing one's pet? I had a roomful of flame spheres in SLASH'EM once and couldn't move through them because my luck was so low.[[User:Ih fek\|Ih fek]] 18:46, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
			:No, it's flat 6/7 chance (only 1/7 for sessile pets and 0 for (baby) long worms).[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] 15:56, September 14, 2010 (UTC)

	== Min and max luck ==		== Min and max luck ==

Qazmlpok: /* Successfully converting an altar */

2010-09-14T12:00:40Z

Successfully converting an altar

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	==Successfully converting an altar==		==Successfully converting an altar==
	Under the "Altar" page, it says you get -1 luck for failing to convert an altar, and +2 for successfully converting an altar. The table on this page says you get +1 for successfully converting an altar. Which is correct?		Under the "Altar" page, it says you get -1 luck for failing to convert an altar, and +2 for successfully converting an altar. The table on this page says you get +1 for successfully converting an altar. Which is correct?
			:Just checked the source. Unless it does something really weird that I'm not seeing, it's +1 luck on a successful conversion. -- [[User:Qazmlpok\|Qazmlpok]] 12:00, September 14, 2010 (UTC)

75.142.83.176 at 03:31, 14 September 2010

2010-09-14T03:31:30Z

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			==Successfully converting an altar==
			Under the "Altar" page, it says you get -1 luck for failing to convert an altar, and +2 for successfully converting an altar. The table on this page says you get +1 for successfully converting an altar. Which is correct?




	Under "Luck in-game effects" it states that luck increases the chance of "Picking something off the floor by applying your whip."		Under "Luck in-game effects" it states that luck increases the chance of "Picking something off the floor by applying your whip."

	I tried this with a expert level arc at XL:30 and couldn't pick up a diamond with it. Are there certain items that can and cannot be picked up with a whip? The bullwhip page doesn't mention this use at all.		I tried this with a expert level arc at XL:30 and couldn't pick up a diamond with it. Are there certain items that can and cannot be picked up with a whip? The bullwhip page doesn't mention this use at all.

	[[User:Serratus\|Serratus]] 15:54, 29 July 2008 (UTC)		[[User:Serratus\|Serratus]] 15:54, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
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	:You have to be levitating or riding, and you must apply the whip at {{gray\|.}} or {{gray\|>}}. In wizard mode I was able to pick up a diamond while levitating and while riding. -- [[User:Killian\|Killian]] 03:24, 30 July 2008 (UTC)		:You have to be levitating or riding, and you must apply the whip at {{gray\|.}} or {{gray\|>}}. In wizard mode I was able to pick up a diamond while levitating and while riding. -- [[User:Killian\|Killian]] 03:24, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

	Is there a relationship between luck and the possibility of displacing one's pet? I had a roomful of flame spheres in SLASH'EM once and couldn't move through them because my luck was so low.[[User:Ih fek\|Ih fek]] 18:46, 10 March 2009 (UTC)		Is there a relationship between luck and the possibility of displacing one's pet? I had a roomful of flame spheres in SLASH'EM once and couldn't move through them because my luck was so low.[[User:Ih fek\|Ih fek]] 18:46, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

	== Min and max luck ==		== Min and max luck ==

	I removed the phrase "beyond the baseline" where minimum and maximum luck are discussed. While there is a comment "on moonlit lights 11" in the code [[you.h#326]], this concept is not implemented. LUCKMIN and LUCKMAX are defined as -10 and +10 in you.h and they are not changed anywhere else in the code. Changes to luck are made by change_luck [[attrib.c#198]] which uses LUCKMIN and LUCKMAX unmodified. The +1/-1 for full moon/Friday the 13th are implemented on initialization, [[allmain.c#32]] and [[allmain.c#39]], via calls to change_luck.		I removed the phrase "beyond the baseline" where minimum and maximum luck are discussed. While there is a comment "on moonlit lights 11" in the code [[you.h#326]], this concept is not implemented. LUCKMIN and LUCKMAX are defined as -10 and +10 in you.h and they are not changed anywhere else in the code. Changes to luck are made by change_luck [[attrib.c#198]] which uses LUCKMIN and LUCKMAX unmodified. The +1/-1 for full moon/Friday the 13th are implemented on initialization, [[allmain.c#32]] and [[allmain.c#39]], via calls to change_luck.
	[[User:Skidragon\|Skidragon]] 22:24, 27 June 2009 (UTC)		[[User:Skidragon\|Skidragon]] 22:24, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

	== Messages ==		== Messages ==

	What do you fellow editors think of adding messages to the big table here? All the luck-changing messages are spread throughout the wiki right now and require clicks to get here, I'd like to be able to refer to just this page for all the messages, and find them in a full text search here as well. (signed after the fact) [[User:Sparr0\|Sparr0]] 16:23, 17 August 2009 (UTC)		What do you fellow editors think of adding messages to the big table here? All the luck-changing messages are spread throughout the wiki right now and require clicks to get here, I'd like to be able to refer to just this page for all the messages, and find them in a full text search here as well. (signed after the fact) [[User:Sparr0\|Sparr0]] 16:23, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

	: Anything that makes the wiki clearer and the lives of fellow net-hackers easier is a good thing. I'd suggest to make sure the Luck messages appear both on Luck and their respective context (e.g. unicorns, altar, pet&trap,...) and to provide consistent redirects from those messages to Luck. -[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] 10:19, 17 August 2009 (UTC)		: Anything that makes the wiki clearer and the lives of fellow net-hackers easier is a good thing. I'd suggest to make sure the Luck messages appear both on Luck and their respective context (e.g. unicorns, altar, pet&trap,...) and to provide consistent redirects from those messages to Luck. -[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] 10:19, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

	:PS: Please sign your posts, either with the signature button or with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). -[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] 10:20, 17 August 2009 (UTC)		:PS: Please sign your posts, either with the signature button or with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). -[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] 10:20, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

Sparr0 at 16:23, 17 August 2009

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	== Messages ==		== Messages ==

	What do you fellow editors think of adding messages to the big table here? All the luck-changing messages are spread throughout the wiki right now and require clicks to get here, I'd like to be able to refer to just this page for all the messages, and find them in a full text search here as well.		What do you fellow editors think of adding messages to the big table here? All the luck-changing messages are spread throughout the wiki right now and require clicks to get here, I'd like to be able to refer to just this page for all the messages, and find them in a full text search here as well. (signed after the fact) [[User:Sparr0\|Sparr0]] 16:23, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

	: Anything that makes the wiki clearer and the lives of fellow net-hackers easier is a good thing. I'd suggest to make sure the Luck messages appear both on Luck and their respective context (e.g. unicorns, altar, pet&trap,...) and to provide consistent redirects from those messages to Luck. -[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] 10:19, 17 August 2009 (UTC)		: Anything that makes the wiki clearer and the lives of fellow net-hackers easier is a good thing. I'd suggest to make sure the Luck messages appear both on Luck and their respective context (e.g. unicorns, altar, pet&trap,...) and to provide consistent redirects from those messages to Luck. -[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] 10:19, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

	:PS: Please sign your posts, either with the signature button or with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). -[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] 10:20, 17 August 2009 (UTC)		:PS: Please sign your posts, either with the signature button or with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). -[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] 10:20, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

Tjr: /* Messages */

2009-08-17T10:20:31Z

Messages

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	: Anything that makes the wiki clearer and the lives of fellow net-hackers easier is a good thing. I'd suggest to make sure the Luck messages appear both on Luck and their respective context (e.g. unicorns, altar, pet&trap,...) and to provide consistent redirects from those messages to Luck. -[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] 10:19, 17 August 2009 (UTC)		: Anything that makes the wiki clearer and the lives of fellow net-hackers easier is a good thing. I'd suggest to make sure the Luck messages appear both on Luck and their respective context (e.g. unicorns, altar, pet&trap,...) and to provide consistent redirects from those messages to Luck. -[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] 10:19, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

			:PS: Please sign your posts, either with the signature button or with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>). -[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] 10:20, 17 August 2009 (UTC)