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Ion frigate: my python script to figure out if this even is positive

2024-11-01T06:31:24Z

my python script to figure out if this even is positive

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	I found a reliable way to extract pills from medkits: dig a pit, dump the kit in it, fill with a boulder, and since buried organics deteriorate (with 95% chance, see dig.c), in 250-500 turns bag rots away and you can dig pills out. (You also get useless bandages & phials this way.) Be careful though, pills are organic too, so after too long they will probably rot as well. [[User:Tomsod\|Tomsod]] ([[User talk:Tomsod\|talk]]) 22:43, 15 January 2017 (UTC)		I found a reliable way to extract pills from medkits: dig a pit, dump the kit in it, fill with a boulder, and since buried organics deteriorate (with 95% chance, see dig.c), in 250-500 turns bag rots away and you can dig pills out. (You also get useless bandages & phials this way.) Be careful though, pills are organic too, so after too long they will probably rot as well. [[User:Tomsod\|Tomsod]] ([[User talk:Tomsod\|talk]]) 22:43, 15 January 2017 (UTC)

			==As promised==
			The python script I wrote to simulate this. I haven't added the adjustment for boulders produced from wished-for scrolls of earth yet.
			<pre>
			import random
			wish_distr = {}
			tries = 100000
			ev = 0
			def gen_and_use_kit():
			kit_size = random.randrange(1,60)
			wishes = 0
			pills = 0
			for x in range(kit_size):
			if random.randint(1,3) == 1:
			pills = pills + 1
			while pills > 0:
			if random.randint(1,49) < 7:
			wishes = wishes + 1
			pills = pills - 1
			return wishes
			def update_wish_distr(wishes):
			if wishes in wish_distr.keys():
			wish_distr.update({wishes: wish_distr[wishes] + 1})
			else:
			wish_distr.update({wishes: 1})

			for i in range(0,tries):
			update_wish_distr(gen_and_use_kit())

			for item in wish_distr.items():
			ev = ev + (item[0] * item[1])/tries

			print(dict(sorted(wish_distr.items())))
			print(ev)
			</pre>
			As I said in the article, this produces 1.22 wishes per kit, which means you're going to be wishing for more kits most of the time. Probably not worth it in a real game. Also, the number of wishes is really variable - even at 100000 tries, I was getting 1-2% variation between runs. Runs of 1000 or less looked basically random. -[[User:Ion frigate\|Ion frigate]] ([[User talk:Ion frigate\|talk]]) 06:31, 1 November 2024 (UTC)

Tomsod: a way to get pills

2017-01-15T22:45:11Z

a way to get pills

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	It doesn't work; the gelatinous cube just eats the pills along with the medical kit (from testing in wizard mode) [[User:Ion frigate\|Ion frigate]] 22:14, December 24, 2009 (UTC)		It doesn't work; the gelatinous cube just eats the pills along with the medical kit (from testing in wizard mode) [[User:Ion frigate\|Ion frigate]] 22:14, December 24, 2009 (UTC)

			I found a reliable way to extract pills from medkits: dig a pit, dump the kit in it, fill with a boulder, and since buried organics deteriorate (with 95% chance, see dig.c), in 250-500 turns bag rots away and you can dig pills out. (You also get useless bandages & phials this way.) Be careful though, pills are organic too, so after too long they will probably rot as well. [[User:Tomsod\|Tomsod]] ([[User talk:Tomsod\|talk]]) 22:43, 15 January 2017 (UTC)

Ion frigate at 22:14, 24 December 2009

2009-12-24T22:14:05Z

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	What's up with letting a gelatinous cube eat the medical kit to get hold of all the pills with 100% chance? [[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] 13:56, December 24, 2009 (UTC)		What's up with letting a gelatinous cube eat the medical kit to get hold of all the pills with 100% chance? [[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] 13:56, December 24, 2009 (UTC)

			It doesn't work; the gelatinous cube just eats the pills along with the medical kit (from testing in wizard mode) [[User:Ion frigate\|Ion frigate]] 22:14, December 24, 2009 (UTC)

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2009-12-24T13:56:48Z

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What's up with letting a gelatinous cube eat the medical kit to get hold of all the pills with 100% chance? [[User:Tjr|Tjr]] 13:56, December 24, 2009 (UTC)