Talk:Mind flayer - Revision history

Umbire the Phantom: ironically poorly formatted itself - also sign yer posts

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 What exactly does the remote attack do, and what is the radius? Specifically, is it the same brain-sucking attack but at a range - and can it cause amnesia? I have a pet Master Mind Flayer, and I see him "lock on to the (monster)" but I haven't noticed what it does. [[User:Floatingeye|Floatingeye]] 03:27, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
 :The remote sensing is not an attack, it is more like a homing signal. Mind flayers, being so senistive to thought patterns, can detect (especially telepathic) intelligent beings and will move to engage them to suck their brains. The messages are simply indicating that a suitable target has been found. You can spend forever on a level with a hostile (master) mind flayer and suffer no ill effects if you do not get close enough for them to melee you (or they pick up and use missile weapons, polearms or wands!). As to a pet mind flayer, they should ultimately follow the same rules and seek out the enemy and... gorge themselves. -- [[User:Kalon|Kalon]] 04:03, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
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 ::The mind flayer should make a bee line for you no matter what. Sight doesn't matter. Perhaps things aren't as simple if you are too far away, but I've seen nothing in the code to that effect. --[[User:Tjr|Tjr]] 10:25, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

Doran: this page needs help

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			== BAD FORMATTING ==
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	What exactly does the remote attack do, and what is the radius? Specifically, is it the same brain-sucking attack but at a range - and can it cause amnesia? I have a pet Master Mind Flayer, and I see him "lock on to the (monster)" but I haven't noticed what it does. [[User:Floatingeye\|Floatingeye]] 03:27, 20 March 2008 (UTC)		What exactly does the remote attack do, and what is the radius? Specifically, is it the same brain-sucking attack but at a range - and can it cause amnesia? I have a pet Master Mind Flayer, and I see him "lock on to the (monster)" but I haven't noticed what it does. [[User:Floatingeye\|Floatingeye]] 03:27, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
	:The remote sensing is not an attack, it is more like a homing signal. Mind flayers, being so senistive to thought patterns, can detect (especially telepathic) intelligent beings and will move to engage them to suck their brains. The messages are simply indicating that a suitable target has been found. You can spend forever on a level with a hostile (master) mind flayer and suffer no ill effects if you do not get close enough for them to melee you (or they pick up and use missile weapons, polearms or wands!). As to a pet mind flayer, they should ultimately follow the same rules and seek out the enemy and... gorge themselves. -- [[User:Kalon\|Kalon]] 04:03, 20 March 2008 (UTC)		:The remote sensing is not an attack, it is more like a homing signal. Mind flayers, being so senistive to thought patterns, can detect (especially telepathic) intelligent beings and will move to engage them to suck their brains. The messages are simply indicating that a suitable target has been found. You can spend forever on a level with a hostile (master) mind flayer and suffer no ill effects if you do not get close enough for them to melee you (or they pick up and use missile weapons, polearms or wands!). As to a pet mind flayer, they should ultimately follow the same rules and seek out the enemy and... gorge themselves. -- [[User:Kalon\|Kalon]] 04:03, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Tjr: /* lurking */

2012-03-17T10:25:53Z

lurking

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	:i was under ther impression that mobs who weren't upstairs wusses would blunder towards you if they could see you, no matter what. the elbereth would only prevent them from attacking you, not coming up to you.		:i was under ther impression that mobs who weren't upstairs wusses would blunder towards you if they could see you, no matter what. the elbereth would only prevent them from attacking you, not coming up to you.
	:what is going on? is my understanding, as ever, flawed? --[[Special:Contributions/194.116.198.188\|194.116.198.188]] 12:43, 13 March 2012 (UTC)		:what is going on? is my understanding, as ever, flawed? --[[Special:Contributions/194.116.198.188\|194.116.198.188]] 12:43, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

			::The mind flayer should make a bee line for you no matter what. Sight doesn't matter. Perhaps things aren't as simple if you are too far away, but I've seen nothing in the code to that effect. --[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] 10:25, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

Tjr: A tame mind flayer has no effect at all, except to annoy the player with spurious messages.

2012-03-17T10:22:59Z

A tame mind flayer has no effect at all, except to annoy the player with spurious messages.

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	:The remote sensing is not an attack, it is more like a homing signal. Mind flayers, being so senistive to thought patterns, can detect (especially telepathic) intelligent beings and will move to engage them to suck their brains. The messages are simply indicating that a suitable target has been found. You can spend forever on a level with a hostile (master) mind flayer and suffer no ill effects if you do not get close enough for them to melee you (or they pick up and use missile weapons, polearms or wands!). As to a pet mind flayer, they should ultimately follow the same rules and seek out the enemy and... gorge themselves. -- [[User:Kalon\|Kalon]] 04:03, 20 March 2008 (UTC)		:The remote sensing is not an attack, it is more like a homing signal. Mind flayers, being so senistive to thought patterns, can detect (especially telepathic) intelligent beings and will move to engage them to suck their brains. The messages are simply indicating that a suitable target has been found. You can spend forever on a level with a hostile (master) mind flayer and suffer no ill effects if you do not get close enough for them to melee you (or they pick up and use missile weapons, polearms or wands!). As to a pet mind flayer, they should ultimately follow the same rules and seek out the enemy and... gorge themselves. -- [[User:Kalon\|Kalon]] 04:03, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
	::That's not entirely true. There are two separate messages a hostile (master) mind flayer might elicit. The first simply indicates that there is a (master) mind flayer on the level and you have intrinsic telepathy. No direct ill effects. The second occurs when the flayer is relatively near you and actually does a small amount of damage. When you have a tame flayer, this second type of "attack" is converted to a small healing effect. [[Special:Contributions/138.67.20.187\|138.67.20.187]] 02:00, 8 January 2009 (UTC)		::That's not entirely true. There are two separate messages a hostile (master) mind flayer might elicit. The first simply indicates that there is a (master) mind flayer on the level and you have intrinsic telepathy. No direct ill effects. The second occurs when the flayer is relatively near you and actually does a small amount of damage. When you have a tame flayer, this second type of "attack" is converted to a small healing effect. [[Special:Contributions/138.67.20.187\|138.67.20.187]] 02:00, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
			:::Err, no healing either. A tame mind flayer has no effect at all, except to annoy the player with spurious messages. --[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] 10:22, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

	==What gives?==		==What gives?==

194.116.198.188: /* lurking */ new section

2012-03-13T12:43:44Z

lurking: new section

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	: Yes. [[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] 06:51, 20 July 2009 (UTC)		: Yes. [[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] 06:51, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

			== lurking ==

			:i guess this is more of a general question about mob movement, but it's happening to me with a master mind flayer.
			:i'm on medusa's island and there're two master mind flayers.
			:the first is inside the opening room. i dug down and came back up so the door's still hidden. i'll deal with him later.
			:the other one's just standing there in the middle of the sea. if i go towards him he'll move towards me, but if i run away he won't follow. which rather undermines my "burned elbereth and stack of daggers" plan.
			:i was under ther impression that mobs who weren't upstairs wusses would blunder towards you if they could see you, no matter what. the elbereth would only prevent them from attacking you, not coming up to you.
			:what is going on? is my understanding, as ever, flawed? --[[Special:Contributions/194.116.198.188\|194.116.198.188]] 12:43, 13 March 2012 (UTC)

PeterGFin: a monster can use an inventory item or eat a corpse to save itself from stoning.

2011-11-19T13:04:29Z

a monster can use an inventory item or eat a corpse to save itself from stoning.

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	Can they really eat lizard corpses? Also, isn't it instantly stoned upon being hit? [[User:Muad\|Muad]] 00:26, 4 June 2009 (UTC)		Can they really eat lizard corpses? Also, isn't it instantly stoned upon being hit? [[User:Muad\|Muad]] 00:26, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
	: I've seen monsters (soldiers and some others) eat acidic / lizard corpses, so it does happen. Remember, the hero and the rest of the world take turns moving. -[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] 12:47, 4 June 2009 (UTC)		: I've seen monsters (soldiers and some others) eat acidic / lizard corpses, so it does happen. Remember, the hero and the rest of the world take turns moving. -[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] 12:47, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

			A monster can take one turn to save itself, but for some reason doesn't simply retaliate which is why you might think there is no chance. In that turn a monster can use an inventory item or (move and) eat an acidic or lizard corpse.--[[User:PeterGFin\|PeterGFin]] 13:04, 19 November 2011 (UTC)

	==Movement==		==Movement==

Tjr: /* Movement */

2009-07-20T06:51:44Z

Movement

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	Can they fly? I was kind of expecting that a large ring of lava pools would keep some mind flayers at bay (wizard mode, of course), but they didn't seem to mind crossing it to get me. [[User:Aeronflux\|Aeronflux]] 00:08, 20 July 2009 (UTC)		Can they fly? I was kind of expecting that a large ring of lava pools would keep some mind flayers at bay (wizard mode, of course), but they didn't seem to mind crossing it to get me. [[User:Aeronflux\|Aeronflux]] 00:08, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

			: Yes. [[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] 06:51, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Aeronflux at 00:08, 20 July 2009

2009-07-20T00:08:30Z

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	Can they really eat lizard corpses? Also, isn't it instantly stoned upon being hit? [[User:Muad\|Muad]] 00:26, 4 June 2009 (UTC)		Can they really eat lizard corpses? Also, isn't it instantly stoned upon being hit? [[User:Muad\|Muad]] 00:26, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
	: I've seen monsters (soldiers and some others) eat acidic / lizard corpses, so it does happen. Remember, the hero and the rest of the world take turns moving. -[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] 12:47, 4 June 2009 (UTC)		: I've seen monsters (soldiers and some others) eat acidic / lizard corpses, so it does happen. Remember, the hero and the rest of the world take turns moving. -[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] 12:47, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

			==Movement==

			Can they fly? I was kind of expecting that a large ring of lava pools would keep some mind flayers at bay (wizard mode, of course), but they didn't seem to mind crossing it to get me. [[User:Aeronflux\|Aeronflux]] 00:08, 20 July 2009 (UTC)

Tjr: /* Mind flayers surviving stoning */

2009-06-04T12:47:23Z

Mind flayers surviving stoning

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	The article says: "It only takes one hit (unless the mind flayer eats a lizard corpse)."		The article says: "It only takes one hit (unless the mind flayer eats a lizard corpse)."
	Can they really eat lizard corpses? Also, isn't it instantly stoned upon being hit? [[User:Muad\|Muad]] 00:26, 4 June 2009 (UTC)		Can they really eat lizard corpses? Also, isn't it instantly stoned upon being hit? [[User:Muad\|Muad]] 00:26, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
			: I've seen monsters (soldiers and some others) eat acidic / lizard corpses, so it does happen. Remember, the hero and the rest of the world take turns moving. -[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] 12:47, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

Muad: /* Mind flayers surviving stoning */ new section

2009-06-04T00:26:14Z

Mind flayers surviving stoning: new section

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	Unfortunately, no. [[Special:Contributions/98.169.69.185\|98.169.69.185]] 00:19, 8 January 2009 (UTC)		Unfortunately, no. [[Special:Contributions/98.169.69.185\|98.169.69.185]] 00:19, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

			== Mind flayers surviving stoning ==

			The article says: "It only takes one hit (unless the mind flayer eats a lizard corpse)."
			Can they really eat lizard corpses? Also, isn't it instantly stoned upon being hit? [[User:Muad\|Muad]] 00:26, 4 June 2009 (UTC)