https://nethackwiki.com/index.php?action=history&feed=atom&title=Talk%3AMonster_%28SLASH%27EM%29Talk:Monster (SLASH'EM) - Revision history2026-08-03T04:11:18ZRevision history for this page on the wikiMediaWiki 1.43.9https://nethackwiki.com/index.php?title=Talk:Monster_(SLASH%27EM)&diff=44153&oldid=prevTjr at 11:46, 26 October 20092009-10-26T11:46:33Z<p></p>
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</table>Tjrhttps://nethackwiki.com/index.php?title=Talk:Monster_(SLASH%27EM)&diff=44146&oldid=prevKahran042 at 23:17, 25 October 20092009-10-25T23:17:35Z<p></p>
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</table>Kahran042https://nethackwiki.com/index.php?title=Talk:Monster_(SLASH%27EM)&diff=44145&oldid=prevKahran042 at 23:17, 25 October 20092009-10-25T23:17:02Z<p></p>
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<tr><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="−"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:In SLASH'EM, if you're a dwarf or gnome, the dwarves or gnomes in the Gnomish Mines are replaced with other monsters because otherwise, the mines would be too easy, as follows<del style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">.</del></div></td><td class="diff-marker" data-marker="+"></td><td style="color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:In SLASH'EM, if you're a dwarf or gnome, the dwarves or gnomes in the Gnomish Mines are replaced with other monsters because otherwise, the mines would be too easy, as follows<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">: </ins>For gnomes<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">, gnomes </ins>are replaced with gnome zombies<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">, gnomish </ins>wizards are replaced with orc shamans<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">, gnome </ins>lords are replaced with gnome mummies<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">, and gnome </ins>kings are replaced with ogres<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">. </ins>For dwarves<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">, dwarves </ins>are replaced with dwarf zombies<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">, dwarf </ins>lords are replaced with dwarf mummies<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">, and dwarf </ins>kings are replaced with war orcs<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">. </ins>--[[User:Kahran042|Kahran042]] 23:<ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">17</ins>, October 25, 2009 (UTC)</div></td></tr>
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</table>Kahran042https://nethackwiki.com/index.php?title=Talk:Monster_(SLASH%27EM)&diff=44144&oldid=prevKahran042 at 23:16, 25 October 20092009-10-25T23:16:08Z<p></p>
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</table>Kahran042https://nethackwiki.com/index.php?title=Talk:Monster_(SLASH%27EM)&diff=44136&oldid=prevTjr: Created page with 'War orc: "Only appears in Gehennom and Grund's Stronghold; also appears in the Gnomish Mines if the PC is a dwarf" -- this sounds very much like a polymorph trap somebody didn't…'2009-10-25T20:53:27Z<p>Created page with 'War orc: "Only appears in Gehennom and Grund's Stronghold; also appears in the Gnomish Mines if the PC is a dwarf" -- this sounds very much like a polymorph trap somebody didn't…'</p>
<p><b>New page</b></p><div>War orc: "Only appears in Gehennom and Grund's Stronghold; also appears in the Gnomish Mines if the PC is a dwarf" -- this sounds very much like a polymorph trap somebody didn't detect. I'm not an expert on SLASH'EM, so I'm not changing it. -[[User:Tjr|Tjr]] 20:53, October 25, 2009 (UTC)</div>Tjr