https://nethackwiki.com/index.php?action=history&feed=atom&title=Talk%3AMonster_%28SLASH%27EM%29 2026-06-03T23:21:12Z Revision history for this page on the wiki MediaWiki 1.32.5 https://nethackwiki.com/index.php?title=Talk:Monster_(SLASH%27EM)&diff=44153&oldid=prev 2009-10-26T11:46:33Z

<p></p> <table class="diff diff-contentalign-left" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #222; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #222; text-align: center;">Revision as of 11:46, 26 October 2009</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l1" >Line 1:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 1:</td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>War orc: &quot;Only appears in Gehennom and Grund's Stronghold; also appears in the Gnomish Mines if the PC is a dwarf&quot;  -- this sounds very much like a polymorph trap somebody didn't detect. I'm not an expert on SLASH'EM, so I'm not changing it. -[[User:Tjr|Tjr]] 20:53, October 25, 2009 (UTC)</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>War orc: &quot;Only appears in Gehennom and Grund's Stronghold; also appears in the Gnomish Mines if the PC is a dwarf&quot;  -- this sounds very much like a polymorph trap somebody didn't detect. I'm not an expert on SLASH'EM, so I'm not changing it. -[[User:Tjr|Tjr]] 20:53, October 25, 2009 (UTC)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:In SLASH'EM, if you're a dwarf or gnome, the dwarves or gnomes in the Gnomish Mines are replaced with other monsters because otherwise, the mines would be too easy. It works like this: For gnomes, gnomes are replaced with gnome zombies, gnomish wizards are replaced with orc shamans, gnome lords are replaced with gnome mummies, and gnome kings are replaced with ogres. For dwarves, dwarves are replaced with dwarf zombies, dwarf lords are replaced with dwarf mummies, and dwarf kings are replaced with war orcs. --[[User:Kahran042|Kahran042]] 23:17, October 25, 2009 (UTC)</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:In SLASH'EM, if you're a dwarf or gnome, the dwarves or gnomes in the Gnomish Mines are replaced with other monsters because otherwise, the mines would be too easy. It works like this: For gnomes, gnomes are replaced with gnome zombies, gnomish wizards are replaced with orc shamans, gnome lords are replaced with gnome mummies, and gnome kings are replaced with ogres. For dwarves, dwarves are replaced with dwarf zombies, dwarf lords are replaced with dwarf mummies, and dwarf kings are replaced with war orcs. --[[User:Kahran042|Kahran042]] 23:17, October 25, 2009 (UTC)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:: Does that hold for the initial population only or also for randomly generated monsters after the level has been created? At least in vanilla, all this only/except Gehennom stuff refers to random monster generation and affects initial level population only as a side effect. -[[User:Tjr|Tjr]] 11:46, October 26, 2009 (UTC)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

Tjr https://nethackwiki.com/index.php?title=Talk:Monster_(SLASH%27EM)&diff=44146&oldid=prev 2009-10-25T23:17:35Z

<p></p> <table class="diff diff-contentalign-left" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #222; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #222; text-align: center;">Revision as of 23:17, 25 October 2009</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l1" >Line 1:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 1:</td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>War orc: &quot;Only appears in Gehennom and Grund's Stronghold; also appears in the Gnomish Mines if the PC is a dwarf&quot;  -- this sounds very much like a polymorph trap somebody didn't detect. I'm not an expert on SLASH'EM, so I'm not changing it. -[[User:Tjr|Tjr]] 20:53, October 25, 2009 (UTC)</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>War orc: &quot;Only appears in Gehennom and Grund's Stronghold; also appears in the Gnomish Mines if the PC is a dwarf&quot;  -- this sounds very much like a polymorph trap somebody didn't detect. I'm not an expert on SLASH'EM, so I'm not changing it. -[[User:Tjr|Tjr]] 20:53, October 25, 2009 (UTC)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:In SLASH'EM, if you're a dwarf or gnome, the dwarves or gnomes in the Gnomish Mines are replaced with other monsters because otherwise, the mines would be too easy<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">, as follows</del>: For gnomes, gnomes are replaced with gnome zombies, gnomish wizards are replaced with orc shamans, gnome lords are replaced with gnome mummies, and gnome kings are replaced with ogres. For dwarves, dwarves are replaced with dwarf zombies, dwarf lords are replaced with dwarf mummies, and dwarf kings are replaced with war orcs. --[[User:Kahran042|Kahran042]] 23:17, October 25, 2009 (UTC)</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:In SLASH'EM, if you're a dwarf or gnome, the dwarves or gnomes in the Gnomish Mines are replaced with other monsters because otherwise, the mines would be too easy<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">. It works like this</ins>: For gnomes, gnomes are replaced with gnome zombies, gnomish wizards are replaced with orc shamans, gnome lords are replaced with gnome mummies, and gnome kings are replaced with ogres. For dwarves, dwarves are replaced with dwarf zombies, dwarf lords are replaced with dwarf mummies, and dwarf kings are replaced with war orcs. --[[User:Kahran042|Kahran042]] 23:17, October 25, 2009 (UTC)</div></td></tr> </table>

Kahran042 https://nethackwiki.com/index.php?title=Talk:Monster_(SLASH%27EM)&diff=44145&oldid=prev 2009-10-25T23:17:02Z

<p></p> <table class="diff diff-contentalign-left" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #222; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #222; text-align: center;">Revision as of 23:17, 25 October 2009</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l1" >Line 1:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 1:</td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>War orc: &quot;Only appears in Gehennom and Grund's Stronghold; also appears in the Gnomish Mines if the PC is a dwarf&quot;  -- this sounds very much like a polymorph trap somebody didn't detect. I'm not an expert on SLASH'EM, so I'm not changing it. -[[User:Tjr|Tjr]] 20:53, October 25, 2009 (UTC)</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>War orc: &quot;Only appears in Gehennom and Grund's Stronghold; also appears in the Gnomish Mines if the PC is a dwarf&quot;  -- this sounds very much like a polymorph trap somebody didn't detect. I'm not an expert on SLASH'EM, so I'm not changing it. -[[User:Tjr|Tjr]] 20:53, October 25, 2009 (UTC)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:In SLASH'EM, if you're a dwarf or gnome, the dwarves or gnomes in the Gnomish Mines are replaced with other monsters because otherwise, the mines would be too easy, as follows<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">.</del></div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:In SLASH'EM, if you're a dwarf or gnome, the dwarves or gnomes in the Gnomish Mines are replaced with other monsters because otherwise, the mines would be too easy, as follows<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">: </ins>For gnomes<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">, gnomes </ins>are replaced with gnome zombies<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">, gnomish </ins>wizards are replaced with orc shamans<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">, gnome </ins>lords are replaced with gnome mummies<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">, and gnome </ins>kings are replaced with ogres<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">. </ins>For dwarves<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">, dwarves </ins>are replaced with dwarf zombies<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">, dwarf </ins>lords are replaced with dwarf mummies<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">, and dwarf </ins>kings are replaced with war orcs<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">. </ins>--[[User:Kahran042|Kahran042]] 23:<ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">17</ins>, October 25, 2009 (UTC)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>For gnomes<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">:</del></div></td><td colspan="2"> </td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">-Gnomes </del>are replaced with gnome zombies</div></td><td colspan="2"> </td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">-Gnomish </del>wizards are replaced with orc shamans</div></td><td colspan="2"> </td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">-Gnome </del>lords are replaced with gnome mummies</div></td><td colspan="2"> </td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">-Gnome </del>kings are replaced with ogres</div></td><td colspan="2"> </td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>For dwarves<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">:</del></div></td><td colspan="2"> </td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">-Dwarves </del>are replaced with dwarf zombies</div></td><td colspan="2"> </td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">-Dwarf </del>lords are replaced with dwarf mummies</div></td><td colspan="2"> </td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">-Dwarf </del>kings are replaced with war orcs</div></td><td colspan="2"> </td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">--[[User:Kahran042|Kahran042]] 23:16, October 25, 2009 (UTC)</del></div></td><td colspan="2"> </td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><del class="diffchange diffchange-inline"> </del>--[[User:Kahran042|Kahran042]] 23:<del class="diffchange diffchange-inline">16</del>, October 25, 2009 (UTC)</div></td><td colspan="2"> </td></tr> </table>

Kahran042 https://nethackwiki.com/index.php?title=Talk:Monster_(SLASH%27EM)&diff=44144&oldid=prev 2009-10-25T23:16:08Z

<p></p> <table class="diff diff-contentalign-left" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #222; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #222; text-align: center;">Revision as of 23:16, 25 October 2009</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l1" >Line 1:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 1:</td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>War orc: &quot;Only appears in Gehennom and Grund's Stronghold; also appears in the Gnomish Mines if the PC is a dwarf&quot;  -- this sounds very much like a polymorph trap somebody didn't detect. I'm not an expert on SLASH'EM, so I'm not changing it. -[[User:Tjr|Tjr]] 20:53, October 25, 2009 (UTC)</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>War orc: &quot;Only appears in Gehennom and Grund's Stronghold; also appears in the Gnomish Mines if the PC is a dwarf&quot;  -- this sounds very much like a polymorph trap somebody didn't detect. I'm not an expert on SLASH'EM, so I'm not changing it. -[[User:Tjr|Tjr]] 20:53, October 25, 2009 (UTC)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:In SLASH'EM, if you're a dwarf or gnome, the dwarves or gnomes in the Gnomish Mines are replaced with other monsters because otherwise, the mines would be too easy, as follows.</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">For gnomes:</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">-Gnomes are replaced with gnome zombies</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">-Gnomish wizards are replaced with orc shamans</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">-Gnome lords are replaced with gnome mummies</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">-Gnome kings are replaced with ogres</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">For dwarves:</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">-Dwarves are replaced with dwarf zombies</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">-Dwarf lords are replaced with dwarf mummies</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">-Dwarf kings are replaced with war orcs</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">--[[User:Kahran042|Kahran042]] 23:16, October 25, 2009 (UTC)</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"> --[[User:Kahran042|Kahran042]] 23:16, October 25, 2009 (UTC)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

Kahran042 https://nethackwiki.com/index.php?title=Talk:Monster_(SLASH%27EM)&diff=44136&oldid=prev 2009-10-25T20:53:27Z

<p>Created page with &#039;War orc: &quot;Only appears in Gehennom and Grund&#039;s Stronghold; also appears in the Gnomish Mines if the PC is a dwarf&quot; -- this sounds very much like a polymorph trap somebody didn&#039;t…&#039;</p> <p><b>New page</b></p><div>War orc: &quot;Only appears in Gehennom and Grund's Stronghold; also appears in the Gnomish Mines if the PC is a dwarf&quot; -- this sounds very much like a polymorph trap somebody didn't detect. I'm not an expert on SLASH'EM, so I'm not changing it. -[[User:Tjr|Tjr]] 20:53, October 25, 2009 (UTC)</div>

Tjr