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		<title>Tjr: level drain and reverse growing up</title>
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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;level drain and reverse growing up&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;::Yeah, and maybe by level-draining the brethren seen on the quest? [[Special:Contributions/75.58.120.233|75.58.120.233]] 22:45, 14 September 2011 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;::Yeah, and maybe by level-draining the brethren seen on the quest? [[Special:Contributions/75.58.120.233|75.58.120.233]] 22:45, 14 September 2011 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:::Level drain doesn&amp;#039;t change creature class. A giant flea will just become a lower level giant flea, not a giant tick. So to get a giant tick you need to (self) polymorph for the multiply attack or self-polymorph and lay an egg. -- [[User:Qazmlpok|Qazmlpok]] 22:49, 14 September 2011 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:::Level drain doesn&amp;#039;t change creature class. A giant flea will just become a lower level giant flea, not a giant tick. So to get a giant tick you need to (self) polymorph for the multiply attack or self-polymorph and lay an egg. -- [[User:Qazmlpok|Qazmlpok]] 22:49, 14 September 2011 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;::::Interesting. So a level-drained large cat won&#039;t become a kitten again? --[[User:Tjr|Tjr]] 01:12, 20 September 2011 (UTC)&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;

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		<title>Qazmlpok at 22:49, 14 September 2011</title>
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		<updated>2011-09-14T22:49:54Z</updated>

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				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l2&quot;&gt;Line 2:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:Not that I know of - they aren&amp;#039;t randomly generated, although they could appear via polymorph (and since they multiply, that could generate real ones from the original, which would eventually revert back; the clones would not revert). -[[User:Ion frigate|Ion frigate]] 22:38, 14 September 2011 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:Not that I know of - they aren&amp;#039;t randomly generated, although they could appear via polymorph (and since they multiply, that could generate real ones from the original, which would eventually revert back; the clones would not revert). -[[User:Ion frigate|Ion frigate]] 22:38, 14 September 2011 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;::Yeah, and maybe by level-draining the brethren seen on the quest? [[Special:Contributions/75.58.120.233|75.58.120.233]] 22:45, 14 September 2011 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;::Yeah, and maybe by level-draining the brethren seen on the quest? [[Special:Contributions/75.58.120.233|75.58.120.233]] 22:45, 14 September 2011 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;:::Level drain doesn&#039;t change creature class. A giant flea will just become a lower level giant flea, not a giant tick. So to get a giant tick you need to (self) polymorph for the multiply attack or self-polymorph and lay an egg. -- [[User:Qazmlpok|Qazmlpok]] 22:49, 14 September 2011 (UTC)&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;

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		<title>75.58.120.233 at 22:45, 14 September 2011</title>
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		<updated>2011-09-14T22:45:07Z</updated>

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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Do giant ticks appear anywhere naturally? As far as I can tell, only the louse and flea appear on the Lawful quest. [[Special:Contributions/75.58.120.233|75.58.120.233]] 21:40, 14 September 2011 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Do giant ticks appear anywhere naturally? As far as I can tell, only the louse and flea appear on the Lawful quest. [[Special:Contributions/75.58.120.233|75.58.120.233]] 21:40, 14 September 2011 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:Not that I know of - they aren&amp;#039;t randomly generated, although they could appear via polymorph (and since they multiply, that could generate real ones from the original, which would eventually revert back; the clones would not revert). -[[User:Ion frigate|Ion frigate]] 22:38, 14 September 2011 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:Not that I know of - they aren&amp;#039;t randomly generated, although they could appear via polymorph (and since they multiply, that could generate real ones from the original, which would eventually revert back; the clones would not revert). -[[User:Ion frigate|Ion frigate]] 22:38, 14 September 2011 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;::Yeah, and maybe by level-draining the brethren seen on the quest? [[Special:Contributions/75.58.120.233|75.58.120.233]] 22:45, 14 September 2011 (UTC)&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;

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		<title>Ion frigate at 22:38, 14 September 2011</title>
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Do giant ticks appear anywhere naturally? As far as I can tell, only the louse and flea appear on the Lawful quest. [[Special:Contributions/75.58.120.233|75.58.120.233]] 21:40, 14 September 2011 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Do giant ticks appear anywhere naturally? As far as I can tell, only the louse and flea appear on the Lawful quest. [[Special:Contributions/75.58.120.233|75.58.120.233]] 21:40, 14 September 2011 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;:Not that I know of - they aren&#039;t randomly generated, although they could appear via polymorph (and since they multiply, that could generate real ones from the original, which would eventually revert back; the clones would not revert). -[[User:Ion frigate|Ion frigate]] 22:38, 14 September 2011 (UTC)&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;

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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;quot;Do giant ticks appear anywhere naturally? As far as I can tell, only the louse and flea appear on the Lawful quest. ~~~~&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
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