Talk:Nasty (monster attribute) - Revision history

Umbire the Phantom: Umbire the Phantom moved page Talk:M2 NASTY to Talk:Nasty (monster attribute): same as M2_LORD et. al.

2025-03-05T06:39:32Z

Umbire the Phantom moved page Talk:M2 NASTY to Talk:Nasty (monster attribute): same as M2_LORD et. al.

Bcode: /* Splitting the page */ That belongs to Template talk:Attributes

2012-11-28T18:35:44Z

‎Splitting the page: That belongs to Template talk:Attributes

Derekt75: /* Splitting the page */ monster template would still confuse me if I hadn't already read this.

2012-11-28T18:29:00Z

‎Splitting the page: monster template would still confuse me if I hadn't already read this.

Bcode: {{DISPLAYTITLE:Talk:M2_NASTY}}

2012-11-28T18:06:22Z

Bcode: Bcode moved page Talk:Nasty to Talk:M2 NASTY: See Talk:Nasty - just "Nasty" is confused with summon nasties too often.

2012-11-28T18:03:45Z

Bcode moved page Talk:Nasty to Talk:M2 NASTY: See Talk:Nasty - just "Nasty" is confused with summon nasties too often.

Derekt75: /* Splitting the page */

2012-11-27T05:30:29Z

‎Splitting the page

Bcode: /* Splitting the page */ new section

2012-11-26T16:59:38Z

‎Splitting the page: new section

Qazmlpok: /* alpha==good */

2010-10-06T12:11:45Z

‎alpha==good

195.50.80.61: /* alpha==good */ some quibbles

2010-10-06T11:12:15Z

‎alpha==good: some quibbles

New page

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*is there a reason why the monsters on this page are not sorted alphabetically? or at the very least grouped by type and then sorted? also, is there a need for the summaries as well as the detail in the same section? listing of individual dragons as well as "all adult dragon" seems a bit redundant. the list also only contains the vanilla dragons, are the slashem dragons nasty too? should they get their own section? --[[Special:Contributions/195.50.80.61|195.50.80.61]] 11:12, October 6, 2010 (UTC)

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	:Rather than use the word [M2_nasty\|nasty] in the monster template, do you think it would be clearer to just use [M2_NASTY]? [[User:Derekt75\|Derekt75]] ([[User talk:Derekt75\|talk]]) 18:29, 28 November 2012 (UTC)		:Rather than use the word [M2_nasty\|nasty] in the monster template, do you think it would be clearer to just use [M2_NASTY]? [[User:Derekt75\|Derekt75]] ([[User talk:Derekt75\|talk]]) 18:29, 28 November 2012 (UTC)
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		+	::I think we should move this part of the discussion to [[Template talk:Attributes]]. (Your concern is valid, though.) —[[User:bcode\|bcode]] <sup>[[User talk:bcode\|talk]] \| [[Special:EmailUser/Bcode\|mail]]</sup> 18:35, 28 November 2012 (UTC)

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	:Sounds fine to me, as long as each split page has a note at the top. "nasty" should either go to the summon nasty page or a disambiguation page (not the M2_NASTY page). The related source of confusion is the info box on each monster's page. For instance, if you look up [[Archon]], it says that they are "nasty". I assumed that meant that they could be summoned via summon nasties. How could we fix those? [[User:Derekt75\|Derekt75]] ([[User talk:Derekt75\|talk]]) 05:30, 27 November 2012 (UTC)		:Sounds fine to me, as long as each split page has a note at the top. "nasty" should either go to the summon nasty page or a disambiguation page (not the M2_NASTY page). The related source of confusion is the info box on each monster's page. For instance, if you look up [[Archon]], it says that they are "nasty". I assumed that meant that they could be summoned via summon nasties. How could we fix those? [[User:Derekt75\|Derekt75]] ([[User talk:Derekt75\|talk]]) 05:30, 27 November 2012 (UTC)
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		+	:Rather than use the word [M2_nasty\|nasty] in the monster template, do you think it would be clearer to just use [M2_NASTY]? [[User:Derekt75\|Derekt75]] ([[User talk:Derekt75\|talk]]) 18:29, 28 November 2012 (UTC)

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	Thoughts/complaints? —[[User:bcode\|bcode]] <sup>[[User talk:bcode\|talk]] \| [[Special:EmailUser/Bcode\|mail]]</sup> 16:59, 26 November 2012 (UTC)		Thoughts/complaints? —[[User:bcode\|bcode]] <sup>[[User talk:bcode\|talk]] \| [[Special:EmailUser/Bcode\|mail]]</sup> 16:59, 26 November 2012 (UTC)
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		+	:Sounds fine to me, as long as each split page has a note at the top. "nasty" should either go to the summon nasty page or a disambiguation page (not the M2_NASTY page). The related source of confusion is the info box on each monster's page. For instance, if you look up [[Archon]], it says that they are "nasty". I assumed that meant that they could be summoned via summon nasties. How could we fix those? [[User:Derekt75\|Derekt75]] ([[User talk:Derekt75\|talk]]) 05:30, 27 November 2012 (UTC)

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	*is there a reason why the monsters on this page are not sorted alphabetically? or at the very least grouped by type and then sorted? also, is there a need for the summaries as well as the detail in the same section? listing of individual dragons as well as "all adult dragon" seems a bit redundant. the list also only contains the vanilla dragons, are the slashem dragons nasty too? should they get their own section? --[[Special:Contributions/195.50.80.61\|195.50.80.61]] 11:12, October 6, 2010 (UTC)		*is there a reason why the monsters on this page are not sorted alphabetically? or at the very least grouped by type and then sorted? also, is there a need for the summaries as well as the detail in the same section? listing of individual dragons as well as "all adult dragon" seems a bit redundant. the list also only contains the vanilla dragons, are the slashem dragons nasty too? should they get their own section? --[[Special:Contributions/195.50.80.61\|195.50.80.61]] 11:12, October 6, 2010 (UTC)
	:The list is divided into four sections: Vanilla monsters that can appear from the Summon Nasties spell, monsters in Vanilla with M2_NASTY set, SLASH'EM monsters that can also appear from Summon Nasties, and SLASH'EM monsters that have M2_NASTY. Note that the two lists are actually unrelated; ogre kings, for example, do NOT have M2_NASTY. The order of the Summon Nasties monsters matches that of the array in Wizard.c (line 26). As far as I can tell the order has no effect whatsoever on what gets generated, so it's probably just in that order so it matches Wizard.c. -- [[User:Qazmlpok\|Qazmlpok]] 12:11, October 6, 2010 (UTC)		:The list is divided into four sections: Vanilla monsters that can appear from the Summon Nasties spell, monsters in Vanilla with M2_NASTY set, SLASH'EM monsters that can also appear from Summon Nasties, and SLASH'EM monsters that have M2_NASTY. Note that the two lists are actually unrelated; ogre kings, for example, do NOT have M2_NASTY. The order of the Summon Nasties monsters matches that of the array in Wizard.c (line 26). As far as I can tell the order has no effect whatsoever on what gets generated, so it's probably just in that order so it matches Wizard.c. -- [[User:Qazmlpok\|Qazmlpok]] 12:11, October 6, 2010 (UTC)
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		+	== Splitting the page ==
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		+	The fact that the [[summon nasties]]-nasties and the <tt>M2_NASTY</tt>-nasties are both called "nasties" tends to cause confusion. I'd like to split this page (which is mostly a list, anyway) into two because of that; it'd probably make sense for the list of "summoned" nasties to be on the [[summon nasties]] page, I think. The "flag" nasties could be left on this page, ideally with a note
		+	{{for\|"nasties" summoned by spellcasters\|summon nasties}}
		+	at the top. Alternatively, this page could be moved to [[M2_NASTY]] and [[nasty]] would be either a redirect to one of them or a disambiguation page (though people are probably more likely to search for information about [[summon nasties]]).
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		+	Thoughts/complaints? —[[User:bcode\|bcode]] <sup>[[User talk:bcode\|talk]] \| [[Special:EmailUser/Bcode\|mail]]</sup> 16:59, 26 November 2012 (UTC)

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	*is there a reason why the monsters on this page are not sorted alphabetically? or at the very least grouped by type and then sorted? also, is there a need for the summaries as well as the detail in the same section? listing of individual dragons as well as "all adult dragon" seems a bit redundant. the list also only contains the vanilla dragons, are the slashem dragons nasty too? should they get their own section? --[[Special:Contributions/195.50.80.61\|195.50.80.61]] 11:12, October 6, 2010 (UTC)		*is there a reason why the monsters on this page are not sorted alphabetically? or at the very least grouped by type and then sorted? also, is there a need for the summaries as well as the detail in the same section? listing of individual dragons as well as "all adult dragon" seems a bit redundant. the list also only contains the vanilla dragons, are the slashem dragons nasty too? should they get their own section? --[[Special:Contributions/195.50.80.61\|195.50.80.61]] 11:12, October 6, 2010 (UTC)
		+	:The list is divided into four sections: Vanilla monsters that can appear from the Summon Nasties spell, monsters in Vanilla with M2_NASTY set, SLASH'EM monsters that can also appear from Summon Nasties, and SLASH'EM monsters that have M2_NASTY. Note that the two lists are actually unrelated; ogre kings, for example, do NOT have M2_NASTY. The order of the Summon Nasties monsters matches that of the array in Wizard.c (line 26). As far as I can tell the order has no effect whatsoever on what gets generated, so it's probably just in that order so it matches Wizard.c. -- [[User:Qazmlpok\|Qazmlpok]] 12:11, October 6, 2010 (UTC)

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	*is there a reason why the monsters on this page are not sorted alphabetically? or at the very least grouped by type and then sorted? also, is there a need for the summaries as well as the detail in the same section? listing of individual dragons as well as "all adult dragon" seems a bit redundant. the list also only contains the vanilla dragons, are the slashem dragons nasty too? should they get their own section? --[[Special:Contributions/195.50.80.61\|195.50.80.61]] 11:12, October 6, 2010 (UTC)		*is there a reason why the monsters on this page are not sorted alphabetically? or at the very least grouped by type and then sorted? also, is there a need for the summaries as well as the detail in the same section? listing of individual dragons as well as "all adult dragon" seems a bit redundant. the list also only contains the vanilla dragons, are the slashem dragons nasty too? should they get their own section? --[[Special:Contributions/195.50.80.61\|195.50.80.61]] 11:12, October 6, 2010 (UTC)

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