Talk:Oracle (monster) - Revision history

Umbire the Phantom: and done

2024-05-22T16:53:44Z

and done

Umbire the Phantom: Umbire the Phantom moved page Talk:The Oracle to Talk:Oracle (monster) without leaving a redirect: This is a pretty straightforward case of disambiguation - higher proportion of text favors monster over level so moving accordingly

2024-05-22T16:51:22Z

Umbire the Phantom moved page Talk:The Oracle to Talk:Oracle (monster) without leaving a redirect: This is a pretty straightforward case of disambiguation - higher proportion of text favors monster over level so moving accordingly

Umbire the Phantom: /* Disambiguation */ new section

2024-05-22T11:39:10Z

‎Disambiguation: new section

Umbire the Phantom: reply

2024-02-25T21:56:57Z

Furey: Sometimes only four rooms

2024-02-25T06:33:22Z

Sometimes only four rooms

Kahran042: /* Special oracularity */

2017-01-09T09:21:29Z

‎Special oracularity

Qazmlpok: /* Special oracularity */

2017-01-03T23:33:13Z

‎Special oracularity

Kahran042 at 18:49, 3 January 2017

2017-01-03T18:49:37Z

71.191.144.10: /* Sacrifice: (SLASH'EM?) */ new section

2013-07-02T21:52:01Z

‎Sacrifice: (SLASH'EM?): new section

Paxed: /* level features */ not possible

2013-05-26T06:17:31Z

‎level features: not possible

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 Is the oracle really female? Where does it say that?
 :Notice the M2_FEMALE flag in [[Monst.c#line2399]] --[[User:Paxed|Paxed]] 14:06, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
 == P = NP ==
 The P=NP oracularity should be explained. I've been told you get it when you try to stiff the Oracle. ––[[User:Tjr|Tjr]] ([[User talk:Tjr|talk]]) 00:48, 16 July 2012 (UTC)
 :http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P_%3D_NP_problem
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 == Sacrifice: (SLASH'EM?) ==
 I was reading through the SLASH'EM pray.c
 and noticed a whole bunch of code relating to sacrifice on the Oracle level.
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 ==Special oracularity==
 The article states that there's a special oracularity if you request a major consultation without enough money, but I checked both rumors.c and oracles.txt and couldn't find it. What exactly is it? --[[User:Kahran042|Kahran042]] ([[User talk:Kahran042|talk]]) 18:49, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
 :It's in makedefs.c, line 1755. Rumors.c lines 39-40 mention that it is a special case, added by makedefs to the oracles file (makedefs generates the oracles file from oracles.txt).
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 :That's the complete text (with some blank lines removed). -- [[User:Qazmlpok|Qazmlpok]] ([[User talk:Qazmlpok|talk]]) 23:32, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
 ::Thanks a lot. This should probably also be in the article proper. --[[User:Kahran042|Kahran042]] ([[User talk:Kahran042|talk]]) 09:21, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
 == Disambiguation ==
-I'm going to be disambiguating this into a level article and monster article shortly - it seems a fair bit overdue, and there's already several other disambiguations. --[[User:Umbire the Phantom|Umbire the Phantom]] ([[User talk:Umbire the Phantom|talk]]) 11:39, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
+:Move's done - split the messages evenly as well. --[[User:Umbire the Phantom|Umbire the Phantom]] ([[User talk:Umbire the Phantom|talk]]) 16:53, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

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	:Most likely - this is one of the outdated articles I have earmarked for a "proper" pass. --[[User:Umbire the Phantom\|Umbire the Phantom]] ([[User talk:Umbire the Phantom\|talk]]) 21:56, 25 February 2024 (UTC)		:Most likely - this is one of the outdated articles I have earmarked for a "proper" pass. --[[User:Umbire the Phantom\|Umbire the Phantom]] ([[User talk:Umbire the Phantom\|talk]]) 21:56, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
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		+	== Disambiguation ==
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		+	I'm going to be disambiguating this into a level article and monster article shortly - it seems a fair bit overdue, and there's already several other disambiguations. --[[User:Umbire the Phantom\|Umbire the Phantom]] ([[User talk:Umbire the Phantom\|talk]]) 11:39, 22 May 2024 (UTC)

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	[[User:Furey\|Furey]] ([[User talk:Furey\|talk]]) 06:32, 25 February 2024 (UTC)		[[User:Furey\|Furey]] ([[User talk:Furey\|talk]]) 06:32, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
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		+	:Most likely - this is one of the outdated articles I have earmarked for a "proper" pass. --[[User:Umbire the Phantom\|Umbire the Phantom]] ([[User talk:Umbire the Phantom\|talk]]) 21:56, 25 February 2024 (UTC)

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	:That's the complete text (with some blank lines removed). -- [[User:Qazmlpok\|Qazmlpok]] ([[User talk:Qazmlpok\|talk]]) 23:32, 3 January 2017 (UTC)		:That's the complete text (with some blank lines removed). -- [[User:Qazmlpok\|Qazmlpok]] ([[User talk:Qazmlpok\|talk]]) 23:32, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
	::Thanks a lot. This should probably also be in the article proper. --[[User:Kahran042\|Kahran042]] ([[User talk:Kahran042\|talk]]) 09:21, 9 January 2017 (UTC)		::Thanks a lot. This should probably also be in the article proper. --[[User:Kahran042\|Kahran042]] ([[User talk:Kahran042\|talk]]) 09:21, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
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		+	==Sometimes only four rooms==
		+	Article says there are five rooms surrounding the central Oracle room. However, sometimes I see only four rooms. I just checked the Oracle level in my current game with a spell of magic mapping, and there are definitely only four rooms. I am playing nethack 3.6.7 on NAO.
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		+	Perhaps the "five rooms" was true for an earlier version than 3.6.7?
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		+	[[User:Furey\|Furey]] ([[User talk:Furey\|talk]]) 06:32, 25 February 2024 (UTC)

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	that P == NP." [Garey and Johnson, p. 185.]		that P == NP." [Garey and Johnson, p. 185.]
	:That's the complete text (with some blank lines removed). -- [[User:Qazmlpok\|Qazmlpok]] ([[User talk:Qazmlpok\|talk]]) 23:32, 3 January 2017 (UTC)		:That's the complete text (with some blank lines removed). -- [[User:Qazmlpok\|Qazmlpok]] ([[User talk:Qazmlpok\|talk]]) 23:32, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
		+	::Thanks a lot. This should probably also be in the article proper. --[[User:Kahran042\|Kahran042]] ([[User talk:Kahran042\|talk]]) 09:21, 9 January 2017 (UTC)

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	The article states that there's a special oracularity if you request a major consultation without enough money, but I checked both rumors.c and oracles.txt and couldn't find it. What exactly is it? --[[User:Kahran042\|Kahran042]] ([[User talk:Kahran042\|talk]]) 18:49, 3 January 2017 (UTC)		The article states that there's a special oracularity if you request a major consultation without enough money, but I checked both rumors.c and oracles.txt and couldn't find it. What exactly is it? --[[User:Kahran042\|Kahran042]] ([[User talk:Kahran042\|talk]]) 18:49, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
		+	:It's in makedefs.c, line 1755. Rumors.c lines 39-40 mention that it is a special case, added by makedefs to the oracles file (makedefs generates the oracles file from oracles.txt).
		+	"...it is rather disconcerting to be confronted with the
		+	following theorem from [Baker, Gill, and Solovay, 1975].
		+	Theorem 7.18 There exist recursive languages A and B such that
		+	(1) P(A) == NP(A), and", " (2) P(B) != NP(B)
		+	This provides impressive evidence that the techniques that are
		+	currently available will not suffice for proving that P != NP or
		+	that P == NP." [Garey and Johnson, p. 185.]
		+	:That's the complete text (with some blank lines removed). -- [[User:Qazmlpok\|Qazmlpok]] ([[User talk:Qazmlpok\|talk]]) 23:32, 3 January 2017 (UTC)

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	[[Special:Contributions/71.191.144.10\|71.191.144.10]] 21:52, 2 July 2013 (UTC)		[[Special:Contributions/71.191.144.10\|71.191.144.10]] 21:52, 2 July 2013 (UTC)
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		+	==Special oracularity==
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		+	The article states that there's a special oracularity if you request a major consultation without enough money, but I checked both rumors.c and oracles.txt and couldn't find it. What exactly is it? --[[User:Kahran042\|Kahran042]] ([[User talk:Kahran042\|talk]]) 18:49, 3 January 2017 (UTC)

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	:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P_%3D_NP_problem		:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P_%3D_NP_problem
	:It's a really big problem in computer science. It appears when you have more than enough gold for a minor consultion but not enough gold for a major. The oracle will then take all your money and produce a quotation from a book on NP complete. I think it's from [http://www.amazon.com/Computers-Intractability-NP-Completeness-Mathematical-Sciences/dp/0716710455 this]. -- [[User:Qazmlpok\|Qazmlpok]] ([[User talk:Qazmlpok\|talk]]) 01:00, 16 July 2012 (UTC)		:It's a really big problem in computer science. It appears when you have more than enough gold for a minor consultion but not enough gold for a major. The oracle will then take all your money and produce a quotation from a book on NP complete. I think it's from [http://www.amazon.com/Computers-Intractability-NP-Completeness-Mathematical-Sciences/dp/0716710455 this]. -- [[User:Qazmlpok\|Qazmlpok]] ([[User talk:Qazmlpok\|talk]]) 01:00, 16 July 2012 (UTC)
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		+	== Sacrifice: (SLASH'EM?) ==
		+
		+	I was reading through the SLASH'EM pray.c
		+	and noticed a whole bunch of code relating to sacrifice on the Oracle level.
		+
		+	Could someone update this article (and possibly also the sacrifice article) to account for that code?
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		+	[[Special:Contributions/71.191.144.10\|71.191.144.10]] 21:52, 2 July 2013 (UTC)

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 Can the oracle level have a shop? A temple? Another type of special room? I have never seen any of it. However, as I read the source code, it should be possible. -[[User:Tjr|Tjr]] 14:21, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
 * In vanilla level may not contain more than one special room (I am not sure whatever oracle counts as one) [[User:Bulwersator|Bulwersator]] ([[User talk:Bulwersator|talk]]) 06:11, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
 == Zot ==