Talk:Poison resistance - Revision history

Ion frigate at 22:16, 23 March 2010

2010-03-23T22:16:34Z

2008-02-28T19:30:56Z

‎Yellow Mold gives poison resistance?: new section

2007-09-09T03:19:27Z

my mistake

2007-09-08T18:22:43Z

‎More intrinsic probabilty mistakes: not a mistake

2007-09-06T19:09:56Z

added argument for killer bee intrinsic poision resistance chance

2007-08-17T16:07:48Z

‎Extrinsic Poison Resistance

2007-08-17T16:05:15Z

‎Ambiguity of Associated Messages

2007-08-17T09:08:33Z

Extrinsic Poison Resistance

2007-03-19T00:38:11Z

2007-03-19T00:37:55Z

Ambiguity of Associated Messages

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	--LWM		--LWM
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		+	==A couple of things==
		+	*The link to Eating Corpses for Food and Intrinsics died with Geocities; does anyone have a permalink (perhaps archive.org, or the site might have been moved)?
		+	*Cockatrices and chickatrices can also grant poison resistance, as I think can Medusa. This should probably be mentioned; it is a bit of a corner case, but if you happen to be poly'd into a stoning resistant monster, it could be worth it to eat them for the intrinsic.
		+	-[[User:Ion frigate\|Ion frigate]] 22:16, March 23, 2010 (UTC)

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	''this message was added by [[User:Antidox\|Antidox]] 09:08, 17 August 2007 (UTC) ''		''this message was added by [[User:Antidox\|Antidox]] 09:08, 17 August 2007 (UTC) ''
	:Yes, it does. --[[User:Snicker\|Snicker]] 16:07, 17 August 2007 (UTC)		:Yes, it does. --[[User:Snicker\|Snicker]] 16:07, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
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		+	== Yellow Mold gives poison resistance? ==
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		+	The [[Mold]] page says Yellow Mold can give poison resistance. Is this true?
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 : I'm sorry to say, but the spoiler is in fact correct.  The probability of Case B is (1/15)*(3/4), not 1/15, because you only have a 75% chance of encountering that 1/15 probability (since the other 25% of the time, you're in Case A).  Hence the correct value is 25% + .75*6.6666..%, which is exactly 30%, which is exactly what the spoiler says. [[User:Djao|Djao]] 18:22, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
+::sadly i'm not as smart as i think i am.[[User:Addps4cat|Addps4cat]] 03:19, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
 == Eating poisonous corpses ==

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 .  				chance = 15;
 So we see that there is a special case for bees and scorps. There is a 25% chance of gaining the intrinsics automatically (because it sets chance to 1 !rn2(4)% of the time which is 25%). if that fails there is also the usually chance of gaining the intrinsic. So we see that prob. of case A is 25% while the prob of case B is mlevel/chance=1/15=6.66%. So p(A or B) = p(A)+p(B) if A and B are mutually exclusive so p(A)+p(B)=25%+6.66%=~32%.[[User:Addps4cat|Addps4cat]] 19:09, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
 == Eating poisonous corpses ==

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		+	== More intrinsic probabilty mistakes ==
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		+	We've got to stop trusting [http://www.geocities.com/dcorbett42/nethack/corpse.htm Eating Corpses for Food And Intrinsics]. There are mistakes. The killer bee probability for instance:
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		+	See [[eat.c#656]]
		+	656. if ((ptr == &mons[PM_KILLER_BEE] \|\|
		+	657. ptr == &mons[PM_SCORPION]) && !rn2(4))
		+	658. chance = 1;
		+	659. else
		+	660. chance = 15;
		+	So we see that there is a special case for bees and scorps. There is a 25% chance of gaining the intrinsics automatically (because it sets chance to 1 !rn2(4)% of the time which is 25%). if that fails there is also the usually chance of gaining the intrinsic. So we see that prob. of case A is 25% while the prob of case B is mlevel/chance=1/15=6.66%. So p(A or B) = p(A)+p(B) if A and B are mutually exclusive so p(A)+p(B)=25%+6.66%=~32%.[[User:Addps4cat\|Addps4cat]] 19:09, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
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	== Eating poisonous corpses ==		== Eating poisonous corpses ==

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	Does the resistance given by [[alchemy smock\|alchemy smocks]] protect against eating poisoned corpses as well as against poison attacks?		Does the resistance given by [[alchemy smock\|alchemy smocks]] protect against eating poisoned corpses as well as against poison attacks?
		+	''this message was added by [[User:Antidox\|Antidox]] 09:08, 17 August 2007 (UTC) ''
		+	:Yes, it does. --[[User:Snicker\|Snicker]] 16:07, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

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 The page is linked to searching for "You feel healthy", but the page itself says that the message for gaining poison resistance is "You feel especially healthy". [[User:Yidda|Yidda]] 00:38, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
 == Extrinsic Poison Resistance ==
 Does the resistance given by [[alchemy smock|alchemy smocks]] protect against eating poisoned corpses as well as against poison attacks?

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	The page is linked to searching for "You feel healthy", but the page itself says that the message for gaining poison resistance is "You feel especially healthy". [[User:Yidda\|Yidda]] 00:38, 19 March 2007 (UTC)		The page is linked to searching for "You feel healthy", but the page itself says that the message for gaining poison resistance is "You feel especially healthy". [[User:Yidda\|Yidda]] 00:38, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
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		+	== Extrinsic Poison Resistance ==
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		+	Does the resistance given by [[alchemy smock\|alchemy smocks]] protect against eating poisoned corpses as well as against poison attacks?

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	== Ambiguity of Associated Messages ==		== Ambiguity of Associated Messages ==

−	The page is linked to searching for "You feel healthy", but the page itself says that the message for gaining poison resistance is "You feel especially healthy".	+	The page is linked to searching for "You feel healthy", but the page itself says that the message for gaining poison resistance is "You feel especially healthy". [[User:Yidda\|Yidda]] 00:38, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

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	:Never mind, I searched through [[RGRN]] and found confirmation easily enough. (Heh, if [[marvin]] says it's safe, then it's ''safe''.) -- [[User:Killian\|Killian]] 15:23, 22 December 2006 (UTC)		:Never mind, I searched through [[RGRN]] and found confirmation easily enough. (Heh, if [[marvin]] says it's safe, then it's ''safe''.) -- [[User:Killian\|Killian]] 15:23, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
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		+	== Ambiguity of Associated Messages ==
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		+	The page is linked to searching for "You feel healthy", but the page itself says that the message for gaining poison resistance is "You feel especially healthy".