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		<title>Bluescreenofdeath at 13:06, 3 March 2014</title>
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Does the duration on these stack like with the spellbook of haste self? The haste self page explicitly mentions that the duration stacks for the spells, and this page doesn&amp;#039;t mention it, so I assumed that one could *not* quaff !oSpeed to last for the whole ascension run in order to wear different boots, as you can with haste self. If the duration stacks, could we add this to the page? [[User:Coffeebug|Coffeebug]] ([[User talk:Coffeebug|talk]])&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;Does the duration on these stack like with the spellbook of haste self? The haste self page explicitly mentions that the duration stacks for the spells, and this page doesn&amp;#039;t mention it, so I assumed that one could *not* quaff !oSpeed to last for the whole ascension run in order to wear different boots, as you can with haste self. If the duration stacks, could we add this to the page? [[User:Coffeebug|Coffeebug]] ([[User talk:Coffeebug|talk]])&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;:Wizard mode testing shows that indeed, they do stack. Diving into the source shows that yes, quaffing them will increase the &quot;player is very fast&quot; timeout no matter if the player was very fast already or not, so I&#039;m adding this to the article. --[[User:Bluescreenofdeath|Bluescreenofdeath]] ([[User talk:Bluescreenofdeath|talk]]) 13:06, 3 March 2014 (UTC)&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;

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		<title>Coffeebug: !oSpeed duration stacks??</title>
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		<updated>2014-03-03T11:29:58Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;!oSpeed duration stacks??&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:I typically save a couple for the Planes if I&amp;#039;m planning to go the timeout speed + extrinsic jumping route (which is more efficient in Pw than the extrinsic speed + spellcast jumping method to achieve the same powerful combination). [[User:Ais523|Ais523]] 13:52, 13 December 2011 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:I typically save a couple for the Planes if I&amp;#039;m planning to go the timeout speed + extrinsic jumping route (which is more efficient in Pw than the extrinsic speed + spellcast jumping method to achieve the same powerful combination). [[User:Ais523|Ais523]] 13:52, 13 December 2011 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:I concur, speed is a very useful potion, given the both alchemy chains and and a fine alternative for the speedboots for a wishless ascension kit. By the time one has enough speeds pots to waste it&amp;#039;s bloody likely that there&amp;#039;s more than enough other junk pots for dilution anyway. I diluted speeds back when I didn&amp;#039;t bother with alchemy and always went for speedboots, but nowadays my vote goes out to dropping or changing that remark. (sorry about the anonymous, but I can&amp;#039;t access my user account anymore, the password doesnt work and it complains no such user when I&amp;#039;m asking it resend me a password through email even though the page and changes are still here, user:Kynde)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:I concur, speed is a very useful potion, given the both alchemy chains and and a fine alternative for the speedboots for a wishless ascension kit. By the time one has enough speeds pots to waste it&amp;#039;s bloody likely that there&amp;#039;s more than enough other junk pots for dilution anyway. I diluted speeds back when I didn&amp;#039;t bother with alchemy and always went for speedboots, but nowadays my vote goes out to dropping or changing that remark. (sorry about the anonymous, but I can&amp;#039;t access my user account anymore, the password doesnt work and it complains no such user when I&amp;#039;m asking it resend me a password through email even though the page and changes are still here, user:Kynde)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;Does the duration on these stack like with the spellbook of haste self? The haste self page explicitly mentions that the duration stacks for the spells, and this page doesn&#039;t mention it, so I assumed that one could *not* quaff !oSpeed to last for the whole ascension run in order to wear different boots, as you can with haste self. If the duration stacks, could we add this to the page? [[User:Coffeebug|Coffeebug]] ([[User talk:Coffeebug|talk]])&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;

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		<title>91.152.200.70: /* speed pot is definitely useful, there are other potions more suitable for dilution */</title>
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		<updated>2013-02-28T18:36:07Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;autocomment&quot;&gt;speed pot is definitely useful, there are other potions more suitable for dilution&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:I will save enough for alchemy, then dilute the rest. Usually, around 10 potions are more than enough. --[[User:Tjr|Tjr]] 11:49, 13 December 2011 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:I will save enough for alchemy, then dilute the rest. Usually, around 10 potions are more than enough. --[[User:Tjr|Tjr]] 11:49, 13 December 2011 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:I typically save a couple for the Planes if I&amp;#039;m planning to go the timeout speed + extrinsic jumping route (which is more efficient in Pw than the extrinsic speed + spellcast jumping method to achieve the same powerful combination). [[User:Ais523|Ais523]] 13:52, 13 December 2011 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:I typically save a couple for the Planes if I&amp;#039;m planning to go the timeout speed + extrinsic jumping route (which is more efficient in Pw than the extrinsic speed + spellcast jumping method to achieve the same powerful combination). [[User:Ais523|Ais523]] 13:52, 13 December 2011 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;:I concur, speed is a very useful potion, given the both alchemy chains and and a fine alternative for the speedboots for a wishless ascension kit. By the time one has enough speeds pots to waste it&#039;s bloody likely that there&#039;s more than enough other junk pots for dilution anyway. I diluted speeds back when I didn&#039;t bother with alchemy and always went for speedboots, but nowadays my vote goes out to dropping or changing that remark. (sorry about the anonymous, but I can&#039;t access my user account anymore, the password doesnt work and it complains no such user when I&#039;m asking it resend me a password through email even though the page and changes are still here, user:Kynde)&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;

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		<title>Ais523: datestamp sig</title>
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		<updated>2011-12-13T13:52:17Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;datestamp sig&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;That these &amp;quot;are good candidates for dilution&amp;quot; is a dubious claim given the important role these play in both major alchemical chains.  Does anyone with a lot of experience actually dilute these?[[User:Thefifthsetpin|Thefifthsetpin]] 04:28, 13 December 2011 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;That these &amp;quot;are good candidates for dilution&amp;quot; is a dubious claim given the important role these play in both major alchemical chains.  Does anyone with a lot of experience actually dilute these?[[User:Thefifthsetpin|Thefifthsetpin]] 04:28, 13 December 2011 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:I will save enough for alchemy, then dilute the rest. Usually, around 10 potions are more than enough. --[[User:Tjr|Tjr]] 11:49, 13 December 2011 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:I will save enough for alchemy, then dilute the rest. Usually, around 10 potions are more than enough. --[[User:Tjr|Tjr]] 11:49, 13 December 2011 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;−&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:I typically save a couple for the Planes if I&#039;m planning to go the timeout speed + extrinsic jumping route (which is more efficient in Pw than the extrinsic speed + spellcast jumping method to achieve the same powerful combination). [[User:Ais523|Ais523]]&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:I typically save a couple for the Planes if I&#039;m planning to go the timeout speed + extrinsic jumping route (which is more efficient in Pw than the extrinsic speed + spellcast jumping method to achieve the same powerful combination). [[User:Ais523|Ais523]] &lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;13:52, 13 December 2011 (UTC)&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;

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		<title>Ais523: they&#039;re not entirely redundant if you want to use jumping boots on Astral</title>
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		<updated>2011-12-13T13:50:54Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;they&amp;#039;re not entirely redundant if you want to use jumping boots on Astral&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Revision as of 13:50, 13 December 2011&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;That these &amp;quot;are good candidates for dilution&amp;quot; is a dubious claim given the important role these play in both major alchemical chains.  Does anyone with a lot of experience actually dilute these?[[User:Thefifthsetpin|Thefifthsetpin]] 04:28, 13 December 2011 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;That these &amp;quot;are good candidates for dilution&amp;quot; is a dubious claim given the important role these play in both major alchemical chains.  Does anyone with a lot of experience actually dilute these?[[User:Thefifthsetpin|Thefifthsetpin]] 04:28, 13 December 2011 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:I will save enough for alchemy, then dilute the rest. Usually, around 10 potions are more than enough. --[[User:Tjr|Tjr]] 11:49, 13 December 2011 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:I will save enough for alchemy, then dilute the rest. Usually, around 10 potions are more than enough. --[[User:Tjr|Tjr]] 11:49, 13 December 2011 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;:I typically save a couple for the Planes if I&#039;m planning to go the timeout speed + extrinsic jumping route (which is more efficient in Pw than the extrinsic speed + spellcast jumping method to achieve the same powerful combination). [[User:Ais523|Ais523]]&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;

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		<title>Tjr: save enough for alchemy, then dilute</title>
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		<updated>2011-12-13T11:49:09Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;save enough for alchemy, then dilute&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l1&quot;&gt;Line 1:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;That these &amp;quot;are good candidates for dilution&amp;quot; is a dubious claim given the important role these play in both major alchemical chains.  Does anyone with a lot of experience actually dilute these?[[User:Thefifthsetpin|Thefifthsetpin]] 04:28, 13 December 2011 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;That these &amp;quot;are good candidates for dilution&amp;quot; is a dubious claim given the important role these play in both major alchemical chains.  Does anyone with a lot of experience actually dilute these?[[User:Thefifthsetpin|Thefifthsetpin]] 04:28, 13 December 2011 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;:I will save enough for alchemy, then dilute the rest. Usually, around 10 potions are more than enough. --[[User:Tjr|Tjr]] 11:49, 13 December 2011 (UTC)&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;

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		<title>Thefifthsetpin: Who dilutes potions of speed?</title>
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		<updated>2011-12-13T04:28:36Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Who dilutes potions of speed?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;That these &amp;quot;are good candidates for dilution&amp;quot; is a dubious claim given the important role these play in both major alchemical chains.  Does anyone with a lot of experience actually dilute these?[[User:Thefifthsetpin|Thefifthsetpin]] 04:28, 13 December 2011 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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