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Bluescreenofdeath: /* Cockatrices */

2014-08-12T05:45:58Z

Cockatrices

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	:Trying to ride something as a yellow dragon: "You won't fit on a saddle." So it's not possible in vanilla and most NetHack variants, but Slash'EM Extended allows the player to try anyway. In that variant, both saddling a cockatrice in yellow dragon form and riding it doesn't turn the player to stone. ;) --[[User:Bluescreenofdeath\|Bluescreenofdeath]] ([[User talk:Bluescreenofdeath\|talk]]) 06:42, 11 August 2014 (UTC)		:Trying to ride something as a yellow dragon: "You won't fit on a saddle." So it's not possible in vanilla and most NetHack variants, but Slash'EM Extended allows the player to try anyway. In that variant, both saddling a cockatrice in yellow dragon form and riding it doesn't turn the player to stone. ;) --[[User:Bluescreenofdeath\|Bluescreenofdeath]] ([[User talk:Bluescreenofdeath\|talk]]) 06:42, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
	::the yellow dragon message suggests that's a function of its hugeness. if you poly into something smaller (a skeleton, perhaps) in vanilla, or are wearing CDSM in UnNetHack, what happens? --[[Special:Contributions/195.2.244.193\|195.2.244.193]] 12:01, 11 August 2014 (UTC)		::the yellow dragon message suggests that's a function of its hugeness. if you poly into something smaller (a skeleton, perhaps) in vanilla, or are wearing CDSM in UnNetHack, what happens? --[[Special:Contributions/195.2.244.193\|195.2.244.193]] 12:01, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
			:::Trying to saddle or ride a cockatrice while in skeleton form doesn't work either: "You can't saddle such a creature." and "The cockatrice is not saddled." The skeleton's innate petrification resistance correctly prevents stoning instadeath though. Attempting to saddle it while not resistant (polymorphed into a gnome lord, for example) will instantly kill the player. IIRC most, if not all "player turns to stone" functions check whether the player has petrification resistance, and if the answer is "yes", the player simply doesn't turn to stone. --[[User:Bluescreenofdeath\|Bluescreenofdeath]] ([[User talk:Bluescreenofdeath\|talk]]) 05:45, 12 August 2014 (UTC)

195.2.244.193: /* Cockatrices */ thanks for that

2014-08-11T12:01:05Z

Cockatrices: thanks for that

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	:Trying to saddle something as a yellow dragon: "You have no hands!"		:Trying to saddle something as a yellow dragon: "You have no hands!"
	:Trying to ride something as a yellow dragon: "You won't fit on a saddle." So it's not possible in vanilla and most NetHack variants, but Slash'EM Extended allows the player to try anyway. In that variant, both saddling a cockatrice in yellow dragon form and riding it doesn't turn the player to stone. ;) --[[User:Bluescreenofdeath\|Bluescreenofdeath]] ([[User talk:Bluescreenofdeath\|talk]]) 06:42, 11 August 2014 (UTC)		:Trying to ride something as a yellow dragon: "You won't fit on a saddle." So it's not possible in vanilla and most NetHack variants, but Slash'EM Extended allows the player to try anyway. In that variant, both saddling a cockatrice in yellow dragon form and riding it doesn't turn the player to stone. ;) --[[User:Bluescreenofdeath\|Bluescreenofdeath]] ([[User talk:Bluescreenofdeath\|talk]]) 06:42, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
			::the yellow dragon message suggests that's a function of its hugeness. if you poly into something smaller (a skeleton, perhaps) in vanilla, or are wearing CDSM in UnNetHack, what happens? --[[Special:Contributions/195.2.244.193\|195.2.244.193]] 12:01, 11 August 2014 (UTC)

Bluescreenofdeath: /* Cockatrices */

2014-08-11T06:42:10Z

Cockatrices

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	is an instadeath, and neither monster can be ridden anyway.		is an instadeath, and neither monster can be ridden anyway.
	does this hold true if you're polyed into something stoning-resistant? which brings to mind the question, if you are polyed into something without arms and/or legs (or are whirly) can you ride? if so, how? --[[Special:Contributions/195.2.244.193\|195.2.244.193]] 12:08, 8 August 2014 (UTC)		does this hold true if you're polyed into something stoning-resistant? which brings to mind the question, if you are polyed into something without arms and/or legs (or are whirly) can you ride? if so, how? --[[Special:Contributions/195.2.244.193\|195.2.244.193]] 12:08, 8 August 2014 (UTC)

			:Cockatrice attacking player's steed: "The cockatrice touches the saddled pony. The saddled pony turns to stone! You fall off the saddled pony!"
			:Trying to saddle something as a yellow dragon: "You have no hands!"
			:Trying to ride something as a yellow dragon: "You won't fit on a saddle." So it's not possible in vanilla and most NetHack variants, but Slash'EM Extended allows the player to try anyway. In that variant, both saddling a cockatrice in yellow dragon form and riding it doesn't turn the player to stone. ;) --[[User:Bluescreenofdeath\|Bluescreenofdeath]] ([[User talk:Bluescreenofdeath\|talk]]) 06:42, 11 August 2014 (UTC)

195.2.244.193: /* Cockatrices */ duh

2014-08-08T12:08:41Z

Cockatrices: duh

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	If a cockatrice opts to attack your mount instead of you, could your mount get instantly petrified? [[Special:Contributions/75.58.127.95\|75.58.127.95]] 18:22, 25 July 2011 (UTC)		If a cockatrice opts to attack your mount instead of you, could your mount get instantly petrified? [[Special:Contributions/75.58.127.95\|75.58.127.95]] 18:22, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

			Attempting to saddle a cockatrice or chickatrice without gloves
			is an instadeath, and neither monster can be ridden anyway.
			does this hold true if you're polyed into something stoning-resistant? which brings to mind the question, if you are polyed into something without arms and/or legs (or are whirly) can you ride? if so, how? --[[Special:Contributions/195.2.244.193\|195.2.244.193]] 12:08, 8 August 2014 (UTC)

Tjr: /* SLASH'EM - Can't saddle ki-rin */

2013-07-12T05:24:40Z

SLASH'EM - Can't saddle ki-rin

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	: Confirming this in SLASH'EM. Anyone know if this is true in NH? --[[Special:Contributions/4.30.147.166\|4.30.147.166]] 18:53, 11 July 2013 (UTC)		: Confirming this in SLASH'EM. Anyone know if this is true in NH? --[[Special:Contributions/4.30.147.166\|4.30.147.166]] 18:53, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

			::There are no minions in vanilla, except the astral plane angel. And angels cannot be ridden at all. (Technically, you can saddle non-tame monsters with some luck, and you could get hostile minions from attempted altar conversion, but let's not go down that road.) -[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] ([[User talk:Tjr\|talk]]) 05:24, 12 July 2013 (UTC)

	== Ki-Rins and Conflict ==		== Ki-Rins and Conflict ==

4.30.147.166: /* SLASH'EM - Can't saddle ki-rin */

2013-07-11T18:53:32Z

SLASH'EM - Can't saddle ki-rin

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	: Yes it is because it is god sent. Minions cannot be saddled or ridden. {{unsigned\|72.208.28.93}}		: Yes it is because it is god sent. Minions cannot be saddled or ridden. {{unsigned\|72.208.28.93}}

			: Confirming this in SLASH'EM. Anyone know if this is true in NH? --[[Special:Contributions/4.30.147.166\|4.30.147.166]] 18:53, 11 July 2013 (UTC)

	== Ki-Rins and Conflict ==		== Ki-Rins and Conflict ==

75.58.127.95: /* Cockatrices */ new section

2011-07-25T18:22:34Z

Cockatrices: new section

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	I have generated a complete list of monsters that can be saddled and ridden. Should this go in its own section of this article, or perhaps in a separate article? [[User:Kdgarris\|Kdgarris]] 23:00, April 16, 2010 (UTC)		I have generated a complete list of monsters that can be saddled and ridden. Should this go in its own section of this article, or perhaps in a separate article? [[User:Kdgarris\|Kdgarris]] 23:00, April 16, 2010 (UTC)

			== Cockatrices ==

			If a cockatrice opts to attack your mount instead of you, could your mount get instantly petrified? [[Special:Contributions/75.58.127.95\|75.58.127.95]] 18:22, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

Qazmlpok: unsigned, nowiki

2011-02-15T23:12:03Z

unsigned, nowiki

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	How do I dismount?		How do I dismount?
	:#ride again. --[[User:Paxed\|paxed]] 17:13, 6 March 2008 (UTC)		:<nowiki>#</nowiki>ride again. --[[User:Paxed\|paxed]] 17:13, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
	::Thank you		::Thank you

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	[[User:Ih fek\|Ih fek]] 19:44, 28 March 2009 (UTC)		[[User:Ih fek\|Ih fek]] 19:44, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

	: Yes it is because it is god sent. Minions cannot be saddled or ridden.		: Yes it is because it is god sent. Minions cannot be saddled or ridden. {{unsigned\|72.208.28.93}}

	== Ki-Rins and Conflict ==		== Ki-Rins and Conflict ==

72.208.28.93: /* SLASH'EM - Can't saddle ki-rin */

2011-02-15T03:28:27Z

SLASH'EM - Can't saddle ki-rin

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	Is this because it is a god-sent being? Or is it just not tame enough since I only just picked it up?		Is this because it is a god-sent being? Or is it just not tame enough since I only just picked it up?
	[[User:Ih fek\|Ih fek]] 19:44, 28 March 2009 (UTC)		[[User:Ih fek\|Ih fek]] 19:44, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

			: Yes it is because it is god sent. Minions cannot be saddled or ridden.

	== Ki-Rins and Conflict ==		== Ki-Rins and Conflict ==

Kdgarris: List of steeds

2010-04-16T23:00:02Z

List of steeds

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	: Thanks, Lord Seth. Ki-Rin have effective 100% conflict resistance. Because monster level enters monster magic resistance, a ring of conflict will not cause a ki-rin to buck you if it has at least level 15, and the Sceptre of Might if it has at least 20. Testing confirms a level 0 ki-rin will buck you. -[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] 00:31, April 6, 2010 (UTC)		: Thanks, Lord Seth. Ki-Rin have effective 100% conflict resistance. Because monster level enters monster magic resistance, a ring of conflict will not cause a ki-rin to buck you if it has at least level 15, and the Sceptre of Might if it has at least 20. Testing confirms a level 0 ki-rin will buck you. -[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] 00:31, April 6, 2010 (UTC)


			== Complete list of possible steeds ==

			I have generated a complete list of monsters that can be saddled and ridden. Should this go in its own section of this article, or perhaps in a separate article? [[User:Kdgarris\|Kdgarris]] 23:00, April 16, 2010 (UTC)

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	:Trying to ride something as a yellow dragon: "You won't fit on a saddle." So it's not possible in vanilla and most NetHack variants, but Slash'EM Extended allows the player to try anyway. In that variant, both saddling a cockatrice in yellow dragon form and riding it doesn't turn the player to stone. ;) --[[User:Bluescreenofdeath\|Bluescreenofdeath]] ([[User talk:Bluescreenofdeath\|talk]]) 06:42, 11 August 2014 (UTC)		:Trying to ride something as a yellow dragon: "You won't fit on a saddle." So it's not possible in vanilla and most NetHack variants, but Slash'EM Extended allows the player to try anyway. In that variant, both saddling a cockatrice in yellow dragon form and riding it doesn't turn the player to stone. ;) --[[User:Bluescreenofdeath\|Bluescreenofdeath]] ([[User talk:Bluescreenofdeath\|talk]]) 06:42, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
	::the yellow dragon message suggests that's a function of its hugeness. if you poly into something smaller (a skeleton, perhaps) in vanilla, or are wearing CDSM in UnNetHack, what happens? --[[Special:Contributions/195.2.244.193\|195.2.244.193]] 12:01, 11 August 2014 (UTC)		::the yellow dragon message suggests that's a function of its hugeness. if you poly into something smaller (a skeleton, perhaps) in vanilla, or are wearing CDSM in UnNetHack, what happens? --[[Special:Contributions/195.2.244.193\|195.2.244.193]] 12:01, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
			:::Trying to saddle or ride a cockatrice while in skeleton form doesn't work either: "You can't saddle such a creature." and "The cockatrice is not saddled." The skeleton's innate petrification resistance correctly prevents stoning instadeath though. Attempting to saddle it while not resistant (polymorphed into a gnome lord, for example) will instantly kill the player. IIRC most, if not all "player turns to stone" functions check whether the player has petrification resistance, and if the answer is "yes", the player simply doesn't turn to stone. --[[User:Bluescreenofdeath\|Bluescreenofdeath]] ([[User talk:Bluescreenofdeath\|talk]]) 05:45, 12 August 2014 (UTC)