https://nethackwiki.com/index.php?action=history&feed=atom&title=Talk%3ARing 2026-06-03T23:32:53Z Revision history for this page on the wiki MediaWiki 1.32.5 https://nethackwiki.com/index.php?title=Talk:Ring&diff=204557&oldid=prev 2026-05-23T20:14:34Z

<p>‎<span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Probabilities of beatitude of chargeable rings</span></span></p> <table class="diff diff-contentalign-left" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #222; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #222; text-align: center;">Revision as of 20:14, 23 May 2026</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l6" >Line 6:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 6:</td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>I've tried to reproduce the probability table for chargeable rings by simulating the important parts of the generation code with a quick Python script: [[User:Prowler/Chargeable_ring_generation_sim]].</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>I've tried to reproduce the probability table for chargeable rings by simulating the important parts of the generation code with a quick Python script: [[User:Prowler/Chargeable_ring_generation_sim]].</div></td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>The output is different from the table in the article. Can anybody please give a fresh look at the code to make sure I'm not missing anything obvious, and if it looks good, let's update the article with the new values? --[[User:Prowler|Prowler]] ([[User talk:Prowler|talk]]) 18:31, 23 May 2026 (UTC)</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>The output is different from the table in the article. Can anybody please give a fresh look at the code to make sure I'm not missing anything obvious, and if it looks good, let's update the article with the new values? --[[User:Prowler|Prowler]] ([[User talk:Prowler|talk]]) 18:31, 23 May 2026 (UTC)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">UPD: Never mind, I found and fixed the mistake, and now the output is more or less the same as the table in the article. I guess it's still good to have the simulation code linked here for reproducability. --[[User:Prowler|Prowler]] ([[User talk:Prowler|talk]]) 20:14, 23 May 2026 (UTC)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

Prowler https://nethackwiki.com/index.php?title=Talk:Ring&diff=204551&oldid=prev 2026-05-23T18:31:58Z

<p>‎<span dir="auto"><span class="autocomment">Probabilities of beatitude of chargeable rings: </span> new section</span></p> <table class="diff diff-contentalign-left" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #222; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #222; text-align: center;">Revision as of 18:31, 23 May 2026</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l1" >Line 1:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 1:</td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Does wearing rings in your left/right hand make a difference? Has it got something to do with rust traps or your weapon hand (your right hand, presumably)? [[Special:Contributions/88.112.14.245|88.112.14.245]] 00:12, 19 August 2008 (UTC)</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Does wearing rings in your left/right hand make a difference? Has it got something to do with rust traps or your weapon hand (your right hand, presumably)? [[Special:Contributions/88.112.14.245|88.112.14.245]] 00:12, 19 August 2008 (UTC)</div></td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:If you are wielding a cursed one-handed weapon, it will prevent you from donning or removing your right ring but not your left ring.--[[User:Ray Chason|Ray Chason]] 01:31, 19 August 2008 (UTC)</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>:If you are wielding a cursed one-handed weapon, it will prevent you from donning or removing your right ring but not your left ring.--[[User:Ray Chason|Ray Chason]] 01:31, 19 August 2008 (UTC)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">== Probabilities of beatitude of chargeable rings ==</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;"></ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">I've tried to reproduce the probability table for chargeable rings by simulating the important parts of the generation code with a quick Python script: [[User:Prowler/Chargeable_ring_generation_sim]].</ins></div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">The output is different from the table in the article. Can anybody please give a fresh look at the code to make sure I'm not missing anything obvious, and if it looks good, let's update the article with the new values? --[[User:Prowler|Prowler]] ([[User talk:Prowler|talk]]) 18:31, 23 May 2026 (UTC)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

Prowler https://nethackwiki.com/index.php?title=Talk:Ring&diff=34856&oldid=prev 2008-08-19T01:31:59Z

<p>Right vs. left ring and cursed weapon</p> <table class="diff diff-contentalign-left" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #222; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #222; text-align: center;">Revision as of 01:31, 19 August 2008</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l1" >Line 1:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 1:</td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Does wearing rings in your left/right hand make a difference? Has it got something to do with rust traps or your weapon hand (your right hand, presumably)? [[Special:Contributions/88.112.14.245|88.112.14.245]] 00:12, 19 August 2008 (UTC)</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Does wearing rings in your left/right hand make a difference? Has it got something to do with rust traps or your weapon hand (your right hand, presumably)? [[Special:Contributions/88.112.14.245|88.112.14.245]] 00:12, 19 August 2008 (UTC)</div></td></tr> <tr><td colspan="2"> </td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div><ins style="font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;">:If you are wielding a cursed one-handed weapon, it will prevent you from donning or removing your right ring but not your left ring.--[[User:Ray Chason|Ray Chason]] 01:31, 19 August 2008 (UTC)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

Ray Chason https://nethackwiki.com/index.php?title=Talk:Ring&diff=34855&oldid=prev 2008-08-19T00:12:08Z

<p></p> <table class="diff diff-contentalign-left" data-mw="interface"> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <col class="diff-marker" /> <col class="diff-content" /> <tr class="diff-title" lang="en"> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #222; text-align: center;">← Older revision</td> <td colspan="2" style="background-color: #fff; color: #222; text-align: center;">Revision as of 00:12, 19 August 2008</td> </tr><tr><td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno" id="mw-diff-left-l1" >Line 1:</td> <td colspan="2" class="diff-lineno">Line 1:</td></tr> <tr><td class='diff-marker'>−</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Does wearing rings in your left/right hand make a difference? Has it got something to do with rust traps or your weapon hand (your right hand, presumably)?</div></td><td class='diff-marker'>+</td><td style="color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Does wearing rings in your left/right hand make a difference? Has it got something to do with rust traps or your weapon hand (your right hand, presumably)? <ins class="diffchange diffchange-inline">[[Special:Contributions/88.112.14.245|88.112.14.245]] 00:12, 19 August 2008 (UTC)</ins></div></td></tr> </table>

88.112.14.245 https://nethackwiki.com/index.php?title=Talk:Ring&diff=34854&oldid=prev 2008-08-19T00:11:48Z

<p>New page: Does wearing rings in your left/right hand make a difference? Has it got something to do with rust traps or your weapon hand (your right hand, presumably)?</p> <p><b>New page</b></p><div>Does wearing rings in your left/right hand make a difference? Has it got something to do with rust traps or your weapon hand (your right hand, presumably)?</div>

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