Talk:Samurai - Revision history

Umbire the Phantom: /* Japanese names */ reply

2022-10-27T19:06:33Z

‎Japanese names: reply

Darth l33t: /* Japanese names /

2022-10-27T13:14:17Z

‎Japanese names: *

Umbire the Phantom: /* Japanese names */ new section

2022-10-27T10:31:37Z

‎Japanese names: new section

Umbire the Phantom at 16:15, 30 October 2019

2019-10-30T16:15:00Z

Bobber the Wise: /* Basic attack spell skill? */ new section

2019-10-30T00:31:17Z

‎Basic attack spell skill?: new section

Qazmlpok: /* The joshu */

2012-12-08T15:05:42Z

‎The joshu

82.130.23.80 at 14:52, 8 December 2012

2012-12-08T14:52:18Z

Qazmlpok at 15:06, 17 January 2010

2010-01-17T15:06:47Z

Rezecib: /* Failure rate */ fixed errors in quote

2010-01-17T10:15:52Z

‎Failure rate: fixed errors in quote

Rezecib: /* Failure rate */ new section

2010-01-17T10:15:16Z

‎Failure rate: new section

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	I noticed Bruce tried to split off the Japanese names to [[alternate item names\|a new article]] without much prior discussion, so trying to jump-start that discussion now and see what should be done with all that, as well as whether or not to bother including it at all if or when we prioritize changes to the role and its strategy in variants. --[[User:Umbire the Phantom\|Umbire the Phantom]] ([[User talk:Umbire the Phantom\|talk]]) 10:31, 27 October 2022 (UTC)		I noticed Bruce tried to split off the Japanese names to [[alternate item names\|a new article]] without much prior discussion, so trying to jump-start that discussion now and see what should be done with all that, as well as whether or not to bother including it at all if or when we prioritize changes to the role and its strategy in variants. --[[User:Umbire the Phantom\|Umbire the Phantom]] ([[User talk:Umbire the Phantom\|talk]]) 10:31, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
	:This only applies to two roles, one of which is variant-only, so I say keep it on the role pages for now. If and when vanilla adds alternate names that aren't Samurai-exclusive, we can create a page for them. --[[User:Darth l33t\|Darth l33t]] ([[User talk:Darth l33t\|talk]]) 13:14, 27 October 2022 (UTC)		:This only applies to two roles, one of which is variant-only, so I say keep it on the role pages for now. If and when vanilla adds alternate names that aren't Samurai-exclusive, we can create a page for them. --[[User:Darth l33t\|Darth l33t]] ([[User talk:Darth l33t\|talk]]) 13:14, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
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		+	:Granted, though that's as far as Japanese names specifically go - for alternate names in general, variants also use the Pirate and Cartomancer, and I'd been wondering about covering all that on the page I linked (though not ''exclusively'' on that page, mind). --[[User:Umbire the Phantom\|Umbire the Phantom]] ([[User talk:Umbire the Phantom\|talk]]) 19:06, 27 October 2022 (UTC)

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	I noticed Bruce tried to split off the Japanese names to [[alternate item names\|a new article]] without much prior discussion, so trying to jump-start that discussion now and see what should be done with all that, as well as whether or not to bother including it at all if or when we prioritize changes to the role and its strategy in variants. --[[User:Umbire the Phantom\|Umbire the Phantom]] ([[User talk:Umbire the Phantom\|talk]]) 10:31, 27 October 2022 (UTC)		I noticed Bruce tried to split off the Japanese names to [[alternate item names\|a new article]] without much prior discussion, so trying to jump-start that discussion now and see what should be done with all that, as well as whether or not to bother including it at all if or when we prioritize changes to the role and its strategy in variants. --[[User:Umbire the Phantom\|Umbire the Phantom]] ([[User talk:Umbire the Phantom\|talk]]) 10:31, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
		+	:This only applies to two roles, one of which is variant-only, so I say keep it on the role pages for now. If and when vanilla adds alternate names that aren't Samurai-exclusive, we can create a page for them. --[[User:Darth l33t\|Darth l33t]] ([[User talk:Darth l33t\|talk]]) 13:14, 27 October 2022 (UTC)

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	The skill table generator has yet to be updated for 3.6.2. Attack spells were nerfed for Samurai, yes, but in return they can raise their skill in the school of their special spell like other classes now. --[[User:Umbire the Phantom\|Umbire the Phantom]] ([[User talk:Umbire the Phantom\|talk]]) 16:15, 30 October 2019 (UTC)		The skill table generator has yet to be updated for 3.6.2. Attack spells were nerfed for Samurai, yes, but in return they can raise their skill in the school of their special spell like other classes now. --[[User:Umbire the Phantom\|Umbire the Phantom]] ([[User talk:Umbire the Phantom\|talk]]) 16:15, 30 October 2019 (UTC)
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		+	== Japanese names ==
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		+	I noticed Bruce tried to split off the Japanese names to [[alternate item names\|a new article]] without much prior discussion, so trying to jump-start that discussion now and see what should be done with all that, as well as whether or not to bother including it at all if or when we prioritize changes to the role and its strategy in variants. --[[User:Umbire the Phantom\|Umbire the Phantom]] ([[User talk:Umbire the Phantom\|talk]]) 10:31, 27 October 2022 (UTC)

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	Also, the "Skill" page says samurai can only reach basic attack spellcasting.		Also, the "Skill" page says samurai can only reach basic attack spellcasting.
	--[[User:Bobber the Wise\|Bobber the Wise]] ([[User talk:Bobber the Wise\|talk]]) 00:31, 30 October 2019 (UTC)		--[[User:Bobber the Wise\|Bobber the Wise]] ([[User talk:Bobber the Wise\|talk]]) 00:31, 30 October 2019 (UTC)
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		+	The skill table generator has yet to be updated for 3.6.2. Attack spells were nerfed for Samurai, yes, but in return they can raise their skill in the school of their special spell like other classes now. --[[User:Umbire the Phantom\|Umbire the Phantom]] ([[User talk:Umbire the Phantom\|talk]]) 16:15, 30 October 2019 (UTC)

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	I was attacked by a monster called "The joshu" in Nethack 3.4.3. [[Joshu]] redirected me here. What is this monster? --[[Special:Contributions/82.130.23.80\|82.130.23.80]] 14:52, 8 December 2012 (UTC)		I was attacked by a monster called "The joshu" in Nethack 3.4.3. [[Joshu]] redirected me here. What is this monster? --[[Special:Contributions/82.130.23.80\|82.130.23.80]] 14:52, 8 December 2012 (UTC)
	:It was most likely a [[Doppelganger]] imitating a Samurai [[Player monster]]. -- [[User:Qazmlpok\|Qazmlpok]] ([[User talk:Qazmlpok\|talk]]) 15:05, 8 December 2012 (UTC)		:It was most likely a [[Doppelganger]] imitating a Samurai [[Player monster]]. -- [[User:Qazmlpok\|Qazmlpok]] ([[User talk:Qazmlpok\|talk]]) 15:05, 8 December 2012 (UTC)
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		+	== Basic attack spell skill? ==
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		+	Playing vanilla 3.6.2 (with the modern tileset) as a human samurai, the game told me I could not enhance the attack spellcasting skill any further from basic.
		+	This article says samurai can reach skilled in attack spellcasting. Is that inaccurate?
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		+	Also, the "Skill" page says samurai can only reach basic attack spellcasting.
		+	--[[User:Bobber the Wise\|Bobber the Wise]] ([[User talk:Bobber the Wise\|talk]]) 00:31, 30 October 2019 (UTC)

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	I was attacked by a monster called "The joshu" in Nethack 3.4.3. [[Joshu]] redirected me here. What is this monster? --[[Special:Contributions/82.130.23.80\|82.130.23.80]] 14:52, 8 December 2012 (UTC)		I was attacked by a monster called "The joshu" in Nethack 3.4.3. [[Joshu]] redirected me here. What is this monster? --[[Special:Contributions/82.130.23.80\|82.130.23.80]] 14:52, 8 December 2012 (UTC)
		+	:It was most likely a [[Doppelganger]] imitating a Samurai [[Player monster]]. -- [[User:Qazmlpok\|Qazmlpok]] ([[User talk:Qazmlpok\|talk]]) 15:05, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

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	On the [[Spellbook of clairvoyance]] page, it notes that Samurai get a "bonus reduction in failure rate". I'm not sure if this is true, but if it is, then I think it ought to be mentioned here (and if it isn't it needs to be removed from the other page)... [[User:Rezecib\|Rezecib]] 10:15, January 17, 2010 (UTC)		On the [[Spellbook of clairvoyance]] page, it notes that Samurai get a "bonus reduction in failure rate". I'm not sure if this is true, but if it is, then I think it ought to be mentioned here (and if it isn't it needs to be removed from the other page)... [[User:Rezecib\|Rezecib]] 10:15, January 17, 2010 (UTC)
	:The [[special spell]] page lists the Samurai's special spell as Clairvoyance. That would be why they have reduced failure rates. -- [[User:Qazmlpok\|Qazmlpok]] 15:06, January 17, 2010 (UTC)		:The [[special spell]] page lists the Samurai's special spell as Clairvoyance. That would be why they have reduced failure rates. -- [[User:Qazmlpok\|Qazmlpok]] 15:06, January 17, 2010 (UTC)
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		+	== The joshu ==
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		+	I was attacked by a monster called "The joshu" in Nethack 3.4.3. [[Joshu]] redirected me here. What is this monster? --[[Special:Contributions/82.130.23.80\|82.130.23.80]] 14:52, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

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	On the [[Spellbook of clairvoyance]] page, it notes that Samurai get a "bonus reduction in failure rate". I'm not sure if this is true, but if it is, then I think it ought to be mentioned here (and if it isn't it needs to be removed from the other page)... [[User:Rezecib\|Rezecib]] 10:15, January 17, 2010 (UTC)		On the [[Spellbook of clairvoyance]] page, it notes that Samurai get a "bonus reduction in failure rate". I'm not sure if this is true, but if it is, then I think it ought to be mentioned here (and if it isn't it needs to be removed from the other page)... [[User:Rezecib\|Rezecib]] 10:15, January 17, 2010 (UTC)
		+	:The [[special spell]] page lists the Samurai's special spell as Clairvoyance. That would be why they have reduced failure rates. -- [[User:Qazmlpok\|Qazmlpok]] 15:06, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

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	== Failure rate ==		== Failure rate ==

−	On the [[Spellbook of clairvoyance]] page, it notes that Samurai get a "bonus reduction to failure ~~rates~~". I'm not sure if this is true, but if it is, then I think it ought to be mentioned here (and if it isn't it needs to be removed from the other page)... [[User:Rezecib\|Rezecib]] 10:15, January 17, 2010 (UTC)	+	On the [[Spellbook of clairvoyance]] page, it notes that Samurai get a "bonus reduction in failure rate". I'm not sure if this is true, but if it is, then I think it ought to be mentioned here (and if it isn't it needs to be removed from the other page)... [[User:Rezecib\|Rezecib]] 10:15, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

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	== laquered armor ==		== laquered armor ==
	In [[mkobj.c#564]] it looks like the armor that samurai start with is made erodeproof? I find that I typically start with rustproof splint mail, and occasionally it is also blessed. (not sure what the % chance is for blessed...also my weapons are sometimes created blessed too) [[User:MysterX\|MysterX]] 09:27, 22 January 2008 (UTC)		In [[mkobj.c#564]] it looks like the armor that samurai start with is made erodeproof? I find that I typically start with rustproof splint mail, and occasionally it is also blessed. (not sure what the % chance is for blessed...also my weapons are sometimes created blessed too) [[User:MysterX\|MysterX]] 09:27, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
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		+	== Failure rate ==
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		+	On the [[Spellbook of clairvoyance]] page, it notes that Samurai get a "bonus reduction to failure rates". I'm not sure if this is true, but if it is, then I think it ought to be mentioned here (and if it isn't it needs to be removed from the other page)... [[User:Rezecib\|Rezecib]] 10:15, January 17, 2010 (UTC)