Talk:Scroll - Revision history

Zygo at 05:08, 29 September 2018

2018-09-29T05:08:21Z

Zygo at 04:01, 29 September 2018

2018-09-29T04:01:14Z

94.109.76.17: /* blank scroll is not the cheapest scroll... O_o */ new section

2014-10-04T03:10:25Z

‎blank scroll is not the cheapest scroll... O_o: new section

Qazmlpok: /* Writing Scrolls... */

2010-09-05T21:45:14Z

‎Writing Scrolls...

DemonSlayerThe3rd: /* Writing Scrolls... */ new section

2010-09-05T21:40:20Z

‎Writing Scrolls...: new section

Tjr at 07:58, 7 October 2009

2009-10-07T07:58:50Z

Tjr: /* Ink */

2009-10-07T07:52:36Z

‎Ink

Tjr: /* Ink */ fine with me

2009-10-07T07:51:13Z

‎Ink: fine with me

Thefifthsetpin at 21:35, 4 October 2009

2009-10-04T21:35:28Z

Qazmlpok at 13:54, 19 September 2009

2009-09-19T13:54:46Z

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	identify and light are actually cheaper then blank scroll... B[		identify and light are actually cheaper then blank scroll... B[
	Any one knows why???--[[Special:Contributions/94.109.76.17\|94.109.76.17]] 03:10, 4 October 2014 (UTC)		Any one knows why???--[[Special:Contributions/94.109.76.17\|94.109.76.17]] 03:10, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
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−	~~== 3.6.1 changes ==~~
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−	Is this price chart still current as of 3.6.1? I'm seeing a scroll for 178 zorkmids in the store, which shouldn't be possible unless there is something priced in between 100 and 200. I'll buy it later if I get the chance to see which one it was. --[[User:Zygo\|Zygo]] ([[User talk:Zygo\|talk]]) 04:01, 29 September 2018 (UTC)

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	identify and light are actually cheaper then blank scroll... B[		identify and light are actually cheaper then blank scroll... B[
	Any one knows why???--[[Special:Contributions/94.109.76.17\|94.109.76.17]] 03:10, 4 October 2014 (UTC)		Any one knows why???--[[Special:Contributions/94.109.76.17\|94.109.76.17]] 03:10, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
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		+	== 3.6.1 changes ==
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		+	Is this price chart still current as of 3.6.1? I'm seeing a scroll for 178 zorkmids in the store, which shouldn't be possible unless there is something priced in between 100 and 200. I'll buy it later if I get the chance to see which one it was. --[[User:Zygo\|Zygo]] ([[User talk:Zygo\|talk]]) 04:01, 29 September 2018 (UTC)

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	Do you have to include "scroll of" when writing scrolls or just the name?		Do you have to include "scroll of" when writing scrolls or just the name?
	:Both work. -- [[User:Qazmlpok\|Qazmlpok]] 21:45, September 5, 2010 (UTC)		:Both work. -- [[User:Qazmlpok\|Qazmlpok]] 21:45, September 5, 2010 (UTC)
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		+	== blank scroll is not the cheapest scroll... O_o ==
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		+	identify and light are actually cheaper then blank scroll... B[
		+	Any one knows why???--[[Special:Contributions/94.109.76.17\|94.109.76.17]] 03:10, 4 October 2014 (UTC)

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	Do you have to include "scroll of" when writing scrolls or just the name?		Do you have to include "scroll of" when writing scrolls or just the name?
		+	:Both work. -- [[User:Qazmlpok\|Qazmlpok]] 21:45, September 5, 2010 (UTC)

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	: Fine with me. If you change it, please change all pages (magic marker, ...) and leave a (foot)note the source and external spoilers are off by one. -[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] 07:51, October 7, 2009 (UTC)		: Fine with me. If you change it, please change all pages (magic marker, ...) and leave a (foot)note the source and external spoilers are off by one. -[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] 07:51, October 7, 2009 (UTC)
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		+	== Writing Scrolls... ==
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		+	Do you have to include "scroll of" when writing scrolls or just the name?

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	Anyone have an opinion about this?		Anyone have an opinion about this?

−	: Fine with me. If you change it, please change all pages (magic marker, ...) and leave a (foot)note the source is off by one. -[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] 07:51, October 7, 2009 (UTC)	+	: Fine with me. If you change it, please change all pages (magic marker, ...) and leave a (foot)note the source and external spoilers are off by one. -[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] 07:51, October 7, 2009 (UTC)

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	Anyone have an opinion about this?		Anyone have an opinion about this?

−	: Fine with me. If you change it, please leave a (foot)note the source is off by one. -[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] 07:51, October 7, 2009 (UTC)	+	: Fine with me. If you change it, please change all pages (magic marker, ...) and leave a (foot)note the source is off by one. -[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] 07:51, October 7, 2009 (UTC)

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	Anyone have an opinion about this?		Anyone have an opinion about this?
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		+	: Fine with me. If you change it, please leave a (foot)note the source is off by one. -[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] 07:51, October 7, 2009 (UTC)

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	What scroll doesn't leave a message?[[Special:Contributions/82.66.91.156\|82.66.91.156]] 13:34, September 19, 2009 (UTC)		What scroll doesn't leave a message?[[Special:Contributions/82.66.91.156\|82.66.91.156]] 13:34, September 19, 2009 (UTC)
	:Create monster, teleport, and taming have no message. Probably light as well if you read it blind. If you do not witness the effect of the first 2, they will not identify but you will be asked to name them. If you read a scroll and it had no apparent effect or message, it was probably taming. Teleport will not identify if you teleport within 1 square of your current position (IIRC, it asks you to name the scroll THEN moves you, so even though it's obvious it was teleport it doesn't let you name it properly), and create monster will not identify if you do not see any monsters created. [[User:Qazmlpok\|Qazmlpok]] 13:54, September 19, 2009 (UTC)		:Create monster, teleport, and taming have no message. Probably light as well if you read it blind. If you do not witness the effect of the first 2, they will not identify but you will be asked to name them. If you read a scroll and it had no apparent effect or message, it was probably taming. Teleport will not identify if you teleport within 1 square of your current position (IIRC, it asks you to name the scroll THEN moves you, so even though it's obvious it was teleport it doesn't let you name it properly), and create monster will not identify if you do not see any monsters created. [[User:Qazmlpok\|Qazmlpok]] 13:54, September 19, 2009 (UTC)
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		+	==Ink==
		+	While I understand that the Ink column represents an actual figure from the source code, I'm not sure that it's intuitive to the reader why we use that value in the wiki. If we subtracted 1 from all of the ink values, we'd adjust the possible costs thusly:
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		+	inclusive lower bound: (oldInk/2) -> ((newInk + 1)/2)
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		+	inclusive upper bound: (oldInk-1) -> (newInk)
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		+	I think that this would be better because:
		+	* The column listed actually represents one of the values
		+	* The off-by-one would be moved from the rather important upper bound to the generally-less-important lower bound
		+	* In my experience, I've found that non-coders are often uncomfortable with the up-to-but-not-including-a-sentinal-value logic in which the listed Ink values are used.
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		+	Anyone have an opinion about this?

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	==No message==		==No message==
	What scroll doesn't leave a message?[[Special:Contributions/82.66.91.156\|82.66.91.156]] 13:34, September 19, 2009 (UTC)		What scroll doesn't leave a message?[[Special:Contributions/82.66.91.156\|82.66.91.156]] 13:34, September 19, 2009 (UTC)
		+	:Create monster, teleport, and taming have no message. Probably light as well if you read it blind. If you do not witness the effect of the first 2, they will not identify but you will be asked to name them. If you read a scroll and it had no apparent effect or message, it was probably taming. Teleport will not identify if you teleport within 1 square of your current position (IIRC, it asks you to name the scroll THEN moves you, so even though it's obvious it was teleport it doesn't let you name it properly), and create monster will not identify if you do not see any monsters created. [[User:Qazmlpok\|Qazmlpok]] 13:54, September 19, 2009 (UTC)