Talk:Scroll of light - Revision history

Umbire the Phantom at 16:50, 9 April 2020

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	::::I disagree, it should be quite easy to get pets that are able to kill a shopkeeper this way. I don't see how a mind flayer or balrog would be handicapped by this. Definitely a noteworthy strategy.--[[User:Luxidream\|Luxidream]] ([[User talk:Luxidream\|talk]]) 16:46, 9 April 2020 (UTC)		::::I disagree, it should be quite easy to get pets that are able to kill a shopkeeper this way. I don't see how a mind flayer or balrog would be handicapped by this. Definitely a noteworthy strategy.--[[User:Luxidream\|Luxidream]] ([[User talk:Luxidream\|talk]]) 16:46, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

			::::Nah, was thinking more along the order of spellcasting to heal self, haste self, things of that nature. If it's just overpowering enemies or shopkeepers then sure. --[[User:Umbire the Phantom\|Umbire the Phantom]] ([[User talk:Umbire the Phantom\|talk]]) 16:50, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

Luxidream at 16:46, 9 April 2020

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	:::Then there's the rub - cancelling handicaps some of the more powerful valid polyforms, iirc. --[[User:Umbire the Phantom\|Umbire the Phantom]] ([[User talk:Umbire the Phantom\|talk]]) 07:40, 9 April 2020 (UTC)		:::Then there's the rub - cancelling handicaps some of the more powerful valid polyforms, iirc. --[[User:Umbire the Phantom\|Umbire the Phantom]] ([[User talk:Umbire the Phantom\|talk]]) 07:40, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

			::::I disagree, it should be quite easy to get pets that are able to kill a shopkeeper this way. I don't see how a mind flayer or balrog would be handicapped by this. Definitely a noteworthy strategy.--[[User:Luxidream\|Luxidream]] ([[User talk:Luxidream\|talk]]) 16:46, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

Umbire the Phantom: /* Confused scroll of light and polymorph magic */

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Confused scroll of light and polymorph magic

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	:: Yes, they do remain cancelled. - [[User:Andrio Celos\|Andrio Celos]] ([[User talk:Andrio Celos\|talk]]) 06:29, 9 April 2020 (UTC)		:: Yes, they do remain cancelled. - [[User:Andrio Celos\|Andrio Celos]] ([[User talk:Andrio Celos\|talk]]) 06:29, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

			:::Then there's the rub - cancelling handicaps some of the more powerful valid polyforms, iirc. --[[User:Umbire the Phantom\|Umbire the Phantom]] ([[User talk:Umbire the Phantom\|talk]]) 07:40, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

Andrio Celos: /* Confused scroll of light and polymorph magic */

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Confused scroll of light and polymorph magic

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	:Do they remain cancelled in their new form, though? --[[User:Umbire the Phantom\|Umbire the Phantom]] ([[User talk:Umbire the Phantom\|talk]]) 06:24, 9 April 2020 (UTC)		:Do they remain cancelled in their new form, though? --[[User:Umbire the Phantom\|Umbire the Phantom]] ([[User talk:Umbire the Phantom\|talk]]) 06:24, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

			:: Yes, they do remain cancelled. - [[User:Andrio Celos\|Andrio Celos]] ([[User talk:Andrio Celos\|talk]]) 06:29, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

Umbire the Phantom: /* Confused scroll of light and polymorph magic */

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Confused scroll of light and polymorph magic

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	Now that a scroll of light creates pets if read while confused (in [[NetHack 3.7]]), how about zapping them with a [[wand of polymorph]] or leading them onto a [[polymorph trap]]? This sounds like a risky, but potentially quite powerful tactic. - [[User:Andrio Celos\|Andrio Celos]] ([[User talk:Andrio Celos\|talk]]) 06:15, 9 April 2020 (UTC)		Now that a scroll of light creates pets if read while confused (in [[NetHack 3.7]]), how about zapping them with a [[wand of polymorph]] or leading them onto a [[polymorph trap]]? This sounds like a risky, but potentially quite powerful tactic. - [[User:Andrio Celos\|Andrio Celos]] ([[User talk:Andrio Celos\|talk]]) 06:15, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

			:Do they remain cancelled in their new form, though? --[[User:Umbire the Phantom\|Umbire the Phantom]] ([[User talk:Umbire the Phantom\|talk]]) 06:24, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

Andrio Celos: /* Confused scroll of light and polymorph magic */ new section

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Confused scroll of light and polymorph magic: new section

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	--[[User:Nethacker\|Nethacker]] ([[User talk:Nethacker\|talk]]) 08:25, 4 July 2016 (UTC)		--[[User:Nethacker\|Nethacker]] ([[User talk:Nethacker\|talk]]) 08:25, 4 July 2016 (UTC)
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			== Confused scroll of light and polymorph magic ==

			Now that a scroll of light creates pets if read while confused (in [[NetHack 3.7]]), how about zapping them with a [[wand of polymorph]] or leading them onto a [[polymorph trap]]? This sounds like a risky, but potentially quite powerful tactic. - [[User:Andrio Celos\|Andrio Celos]] ([[User talk:Andrio Celos\|talk]]) 06:15, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

Nethacker: /* Scroll behaviour in 3.6.0 */

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Scroll behaviour in 3.6.0

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	If the player is confused, !confused is always false, rn2(5) has 20% chance to be true, therefore there is 80% chance to generate a monster. If the player is not confused, !confused is always true, so the scroll never generates a monster.		If the player is confused, <tt>!confused</tt> is always <tt>false</tt>, while <tt>rn2(5)</tt> has 80% chance to be true, therefore there is 20% chance to generate a monster. If the player is not confused, <tt>!confused</tt> is always <tt>true</tt>, so the scroll never generates a monster.

	--[[User:Nethacker\|Nethacker]] ([[User talk:Nethacker\|talk]]) 08:25, 4 July 2016 (UTC)		--[[User:Nethacker\|Nethacker]] ([[User talk:Nethacker\|talk]]) 08:25, 4 July 2016 (UTC)
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Nethacker: Created page with "== Scroll behaviour in 3.6.0 == The source is: if (!confused || rn2(5)) { // generate light or dark field // darkness is generated if the scroll is curse..."

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Created page with "== Scroll behaviour in 3.6.0 == The source is: if (!confused || rn2(5)) { // generate light or dark field // darkness is generated if the scroll is curse..."

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== Scroll behaviour in 3.6.0 ==

The source is:

if (!confused || rn2(5)) {
// generate light or dark field
// darkness is generated if the scroll is cursed or the player is confused
} else {
// generate yellow or black light
}

If the player is confused, !confused is always false, rn2(5) has 20% chance to be true, therefore there is 80% chance to generate a monster. If the player is not confused, !confused is always true, so the scroll never generates a monster.

--[[User:Nethacker|Nethacker]] ([[User talk:Nethacker|talk]]) 08:25, 4 July 2016 (UTC)