Talk:Shirt - Revision history

Ion frigate: limited explanations for very specific references

2023-08-29T02:07:00Z

limited explanations for very specific references

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	[[File:NethackT.jpeg]] [[File:NethackTTile.jpg]]		[[File:NethackT.jpeg]] [[File:NethackTTile.jpg]]
	:As mentioned above. The modelling is all virtual of course. I uploaded these with an NGPL tag, but am willing to stand corrected.--[[User:PeterGFin\|PeterGFin]] 17:10, 19 June 2011 (UTC)		:As mentioned above. The modelling is all virtual of course. I uploaded these with an NGPL tag, but am willing to stand corrected.--[[User:PeterGFin\|PeterGFin]] 17:10, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

			== Adding origins ==
			I'm going to go ahead and start adding origins in italics for the T-shirt messages that are '''specific''' references. I thought of making it a chart, but that would be ugly, and most of them would just be "generic joke", etc. I don't want it to get too cluttered with speculation or explanations of obvious jokes, but things like the last two that are very direct references to IP not (often) referred to elsewhere in the game are worth (briefly) explaining, in my opinion. -[[User:Ion frigate\|Ion frigate]] ([[User talk:Ion frigate\|talk]]) 02:06, 29 August 2023 (UTC)

PeterGFin: Images uploaded of RL replica T-shirts. NGPL.

2011-06-19T17:10:25Z

Images uploaded of RL replica T-shirts. NGPL.

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	:Neat, we really need real-life t-shirts in the article. --[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] 21:40, 18 June 2011 (UTC)		:Neat, we really need real-life t-shirts in the article. --[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] 21:40, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

			[[File:NethackT.jpeg]] [[File:NethackTTile.jpg]]
			:As mentioned above. The modelling is all virtual of course. I uploaded these with an NGPL tag, but am willing to stand corrected.--[[User:PeterGFin\|PeterGFin]] 17:10, 19 June 2011 (UTC)

Tjr: neat

2011-06-18T21:40:48Z

neat

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	== Real life Nethack T-shirts ==		== Real life Nethack T-shirts ==
	The ASCII and tile versions of the Nethack shirt designs were straightforward to make on Zazzle[http://www.zazzle.co.uk]. You can find existing designs there, but copyright is dubious since the 'creators' make 10-50% of the price.--[[User:PeterGFin\|PeterGFin]] 15:46, 18 June 2011 (UTC)		The ASCII and tile versions of the Nethack shirt designs were straightforward to make on Zazzle[http://www.zazzle.co.uk]. You can find existing designs there, but copyright is dubious since the 'creators' make 10-50% of the price.--[[User:PeterGFin\|PeterGFin]] 15:46, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

			:Neat, we really need real-life t-shirts in the article. --[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] 21:40, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

PeterGFin: real life Nethack T-shirts

2011-06-18T15:46:19Z

real life Nethack T-shirts

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	:The result is that if tourists exist, then Tshirts exist too (both types), and if tourists don't exist, neither do Tshirts. All references to Tshirts, e.g. when checking armor slots for destroy armor, will include the #ifdef TOURIST - if TOURIST is not defined, then there isn't even a Tshirt armor slot. There is no change in whether or not you are a tourist when playing the game, only if you could play as a tourist.		:The result is that if tourists exist, then Tshirts exist too (both types), and if tourists don't exist, neither do Tshirts. All references to Tshirts, e.g. when checking armor slots for destroy armor, will include the #ifdef TOURIST - if TOURIST is not defined, then there isn't even a Tshirt armor slot. There is no change in whether or not you are a tourist when playing the game, only if you could play as a tourist.
	:I don't know what you mean for the 2nd half. Could you elaborate? That sounds like player monster generation. -- [[User:Qazmlpok\|Qazmlpok]] 14:12, August 7, 2010 (UTC)		:I don't know what you mean for the 2nd half. Could you elaborate? That sounds like player monster generation. -- [[User:Qazmlpok\|Qazmlpok]] 14:12, August 7, 2010 (UTC)

			== Real life Nethack T-shirts ==
			The ASCII and tile versions of the Nethack shirt designs were straightforward to make on Zazzle[http://www.zazzle.co.uk]. You can find existing designs there, but copyright is dubious since the 'creators' make 10-50% of the price.--[[User:PeterGFin\|PeterGFin]] 15:46, 18 June 2011 (UTC)

Qazmlpok at 14:12, 7 August 2010

2010-08-07T14:12:16Z

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	The tourist seems to get an '8' for the Hawaiian shirt, '2' for a T shirt and as a result loses '10' for a bronze plate mail.--[[User:PeterGFin\|PeterGFin]] 12:44, August 7, 2010 (UTC)		The tourist seems to get an '8' for the Hawaiian shirt, '2' for a T shirt and as a result loses '10' for a bronze plate mail.--[[User:PeterGFin\|PeterGFin]] 12:44, August 7, 2010 (UTC)
			:The #ifdef and #endif blocks are for conditional compilation. Some places on the wiki will make reference to "if SOMEVALUE is defined then...". For example, if MAIL is not defined (by '#define MAIL', then mail daemons cannot exist - this is distinct from the mail option simply being turned off. This is done during compilation, and there is no way to change these without recompiling the nethack source code.
			:The result is that if tourists exist, then Tshirts exist too (both types), and if tourists don't exist, neither do Tshirts. All references to Tshirts, e.g. when checking armor slots for destroy armor, will include the #ifdef TOURIST - if TOURIST is not defined, then there isn't even a Tshirt armor slot. There is no change in whether or not you are a tourist when playing the game, only if you could play as a tourist.
			:I don't know what you mean for the 2nd half. Could you elaborate? That sounds like player monster generation. -- [[User:Qazmlpok\|Qazmlpok]] 14:12, August 7, 2010 (UTC)

PeterGFin: 'Standard' generation is for Tourists only? includes link to source.

2010-08-07T12:44:33Z

'Standard' generation is for Tourists only? includes link to source.

New page

The Shirts are within "ifdef Tourist": in [[objects.c#line400|objects.c#line400]] of the source. Would this make random generation impossible for everyone else? (the article implies shops are the exception).

The tourist seems to get an '8' for the Hawaiian shirt, '2' for a T shirt and as a result loses '10' for a bronze plate mail.--[[User:PeterGFin|PeterGFin]] 12:44, August 7, 2010 (UTC)