Talk:Slash'EM Extended - Revision history

Umbire the Phantom at 10:56, 11 August 2022

2022-08-11T10:56:10Z

NetSysFire: /* Cleanup of this page and deletion of similar ones */ - re

2022-08-11T09:01:25Z

‎Cleanup of this page and deletion of similar ones: - re

Aximili: /* Cleanup of this page and deletion of similar ones */

2022-08-11T06:17:52Z

‎Cleanup of this page and deletion of similar ones

NetSysFire: /* Cleanup of this page and deletion of similar ones */ new section

2022-08-09T22:21:05Z

‎Cleanup of this page and deletion of similar ones: new section

Lysdexia: /* SLEX is overrunning the wiki */

2020-01-08T18:24:12Z

‎SLEX is overrunning the wiki

Testbutt: reply

2017-05-16T03:43:38Z

FIQ at 21:15, 15 May 2017

2017-05-15T21:15:25Z

Bluescreenofdeath at 20:42, 15 May 2017

2017-05-15T20:42:11Z

Testbutt: forgot to sign

2017-05-15T20:08:01Z

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Testbutt: /* SLEX is overrunning the wiki */ new section

2017-05-15T20:05:21Z

‎SLEX is overrunning the wiki: new section

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	::Good question. The references to SLEX should be removed. Even though SlashTHEM is a variant of SLEX, it removed much of the content, including the problematic kind.		::Good question. The references to SLEX should be removed. Even though SlashTHEM is a variant of SLEX, it removed much of the content, including the problematic kind.
	::-- [[User:NetSysFire\|NetSysFire]] ([[User talk:NetSysFire\|talk]]) 09:00, 11 August 2022 (UTC)		::-- [[User:NetSysFire\|NetSysFire]] ([[User talk:NetSysFire\|talk]]) 09:00, 11 August 2022 (UTC)
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		+	:::I've already been working (albeit quite slowly) on this point, mostly as an "on the side" thing while editing other pages - probably because I get the subconscious (and likely unjustified) feeling if I focused specifically on tracking down SLEX stuff, I'd be here all year.
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		+	Honestly, the more "pressing" matter for me is why this page has a delete template if we plan to keep it in a cleaned up/severely-shortened capacity (which I prefer, for the record). --[[User:Umbire the Phantom\|Umbire the Phantom]] ([[User talk:Umbire the Phantom\|talk]]) 10:56, 11 August 2022 (UTC)

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	:What about references to SLEX on pages which also have SLASHTHEM, SLASHEM or vanilla content? For example [[Drunk]]? --[[User:Aximili\|Aximili]] ([[User talk:Aximili\|talk]]) 06:17, 11 August 2022 (UTC)		:What about references to SLEX on pages which also have SLASHTHEM, SLASHEM or vanilla content? For example [[Drunk]]? --[[User:Aximili\|Aximili]] ([[User talk:Aximili\|talk]]) 06:17, 11 August 2022 (UTC)
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		+	::Good question. The references to SLEX should be removed. Even though SlashTHEM is a variant of SLEX, it removed much of the content, including the problematic kind.
		+	::-- [[User:NetSysFire\|NetSysFire]] ([[User talk:NetSysFire\|talk]]) 09:00, 11 August 2022 (UTC)

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	-- [[User:NetSysFire\|NetSysFire]] ([[User talk:NetSysFire\|talk]]) 22:21, 9 August 2022 (UTC)		-- [[User:NetSysFire\|NetSysFire]] ([[User talk:NetSysFire\|talk]]) 22:21, 9 August 2022 (UTC)
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		+	:What about references to SLEX on pages which also have SLASHTHEM, SLASHEM or vanilla content? For example [[Drunk]]? --[[User:Aximili\|Aximili]] ([[User talk:Aximili\|talk]]) 06:17, 11 August 2022 (UTC)

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	===feedback===		===feedback===
	How can you stand this shovelware? [[User:Lysdexia\|Lysdexia]] ([[User talk:Lysdexia\|talk]]) 18:24, 8 January 2020 (UTC)		How can you stand this shovelware? [[User:Lysdexia\|Lysdexia]] ([[User talk:Lysdexia\|talk]]) 18:24, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
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		+	== Cleanup of this page and deletion of similar ones ==
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		+	There has been some discussion with the wiki admins who agree that this main page about SLEX should be cleaned up and other non-essential pages should be deleted.
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		+	The reason for this is the content of the variant itself. It is well-known that it got wiped off hardfought because the variant enables sexual acts involving kids. The variants developer retired but came back a short time later to add more distateful NSFW content, including some which is r\*pe themed, probably to make fun of its removal from hardfought. It was also banned from junethack and removed from the nethack scoreboard for these very reasons.
		+	GitHub has also marked the repo NSFW, so you are required to login ''and'' to click through a big warning. Unfortunately this is just the tip of the iceberg and there are more horrors lurking below.
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		+	Since it is clear that such things should not be supported and have no place here, the plan is as follows:
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		+	* Clean up the SLEX page to drastically reduce its content.
		+	** The goal is to warp it into a brief summary.
		+	* Delete all other SLEX pages.
		+	** They all need to be flagged with [[Template:Delete]] first, provided they are not dummy pages.
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		+	This has been discussed on IRC but need a less ephemeral place, so here it is.
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		+	The wiki admins will need to chime in to tell us what they want to do with amys user pages containing a myriad of SLEX-stuff.
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		+	-- [[User:NetSysFire\|NetSysFire]] ([[User talk:NetSysFire\|talk]]) 22:21, 9 August 2022 (UTC)

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	--[[User:FIQ\|FIQ]] ([[User talk:FIQ\|talk]]) 21:15, 15 May 2017 (UTC)		--[[User:FIQ\|FIQ]] ([[User talk:FIQ\|talk]]) 21:15, 15 May 2017 (UTC)
	::Yes, it's quite likely that I was conflating SlashEM and SlashEX. It felt like the wiki has a a lot of slash oh it, but it seems I overestimated the issue. --[[User:Testbutt\|Testbutt]] ([[User talk:Testbutt\|talk]]) 03:43, 16 May 2017 (UTC)		::Yes, it's quite likely that I was conflating SlashEM and SlashEX. It felt like the wiki has a a lot of slash oh it, but it seems I overestimated the issue. --[[User:Testbutt\|Testbutt]] ([[User talk:Testbutt\|talk]]) 03:43, 16 May 2017 (UTC)
		+	===feedback===
		+	How can you stand this shovelware? [[User:Lysdexia\|Lysdexia]] ([[User talk:Lysdexia\|talk]]) 18:24, 8 January 2020 (UTC)

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	Vanilla: 28</pre>		Vanilla: 28</pre>
	--[[User:FIQ\|FIQ]] ([[User talk:FIQ\|talk]]) 21:15, 15 May 2017 (UTC)		--[[User:FIQ\|FIQ]] ([[User talk:FIQ\|talk]]) 21:15, 15 May 2017 (UTC)
		+	::Yes, it's quite likely that I was conflating SlashEM and SlashEX. It felt like the wiki has a a lot of slash oh it, but it seems I overestimated the issue. --[[User:Testbutt\|Testbutt]] ([[User talk:Testbutt\|talk]]) 03:43, 16 May 2017 (UTC)

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	The Random Page button, which I use heavily to discover new things about nethack, feels like it results in 40% or 50% SLEX articles. Perhaps SLEX can take a page from other variants, and condense multiple small articles into one page? Monsters, especially, seem to be extremely numerous - when I'm Random Pageing, if I get a monster I find myself quickly scanning the page to see whether it's another single-fork-specific monster only, or found more generally in vanilla and/or multiple different forks. --[[User:Testbutt\|Testbutt]] ([[User talk:Testbutt\|talk]]) 20:07, 15 May 2017 (UTC)		The Random Page button, which I use heavily to discover new things about nethack, feels like it results in 40% or 50% SLEX articles. Perhaps SLEX can take a page from other variants, and condense multiple small articles into one page? Monsters, especially, seem to be extremely numerous - when I'm Random Pageing, if I get a monster I find myself quickly scanning the page to see whether it's another single-fork-specific monster only, or found more generally in vanilla and/or multiple different forks. --[[User:Testbutt\|Testbutt]] ([[User talk:Testbutt\|talk]]) 20:07, 15 May 2017 (UTC)
	:Hmm. I just tested this by hitting random page 40 times (probably too few, I know), and it resulted in a SLEX page exactly once; it gave dnethack monsters 3 times though and one from unnethack. Maybe you were seeing SLASH'EM monsters, which indeed all have their own pages? I intentionally didn't create a page for every SLEX monsters because then it would really dominate the entire wiki. --[[User:Bluescreenofdeath\|Bluescreenofdeath]] ([[User talk:Bluescreenofdeath\|talk]]) 20:42, 15 May 2017 (UTC)		:Hmm. I just tested this by hitting random page 40 times (probably too few, I know), and it resulted in a SLEX page exactly once; it gave dnethack monsters 3 times though and one from unnethack. Maybe you were seeing SLASH'EM monsters, which indeed all have their own pages? I intentionally didn't create a page for every SLEX monsters because then it would really dominate the entire wiki. --[[User:Bluescreenofdeath\|Bluescreenofdeath]] ([[User talk:Bluescreenofdeath\|talk]]) 20:42, 15 May 2017 (UTC)
		+	::For another reference, I tried myself. The result was 0 SLEX pages, 4+2 dNetHack pages, 4+2 SLASH'EM pages and 2 GruntHack pages. The rest were vanilla, multivariant or otherwise. Here's a list
		+	<pre>Crocodile [v]
		+	Engraving [v]
		+	Healing [v]
		+	Samurai (player monster) [v]
		+	Animal [v]
		+	Carnivorous ape [v]
		+	Magic trap [v]
		+	Quaff [v]
		+	Metastrategy [v]
		+	Role difficulty [v]
		+	Property [v]
		+	E [v]
		+	Dragonbane [v]
		+	Orc [v]
		+	Wand of sleep [v]
		+	Auto-identify [v]
		+	Ring of conflict [v]
		+	Nurse [v]
		+	Devil [v]
		+	Leather jacket [v]
		+	Destroy armor (monster spell) [v]
		+	Amulet [v]
		+	Huge chunk of meat [v]
		+	Zombie [v]
		+	Leather cloak [v]
		+	Environment variable [v]
		+	Turn [v]
		+	Killer bee [v]
		+	King [gh]
		+	Psi bolt [gh]
		+	Ascension kit (dNetHack) [dnh]
		+	Dantrag [dnh]
		+	Oread [dnh]
		+	Burning fern spore [dnh]
		+	Byakhee [dnh\|sl]
		+	Deva [dnh\|sl]
		+	Assault rifle [sl]
		+	Spellbook of acid stream [sl]
		+	Jumbo the Elephant [sl]
		+	Hobbit quest [sl]
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		+	SLEX: 0
		+	Slash'EM: 6 (4+2)
		+	dNetHack: 6 (4+2)
		+	GruntHack: 2
		+	Vanilla: 28</pre>
		+	--[[User:FIQ\|FIQ]] ([[User talk:FIQ\|talk]]) 21:15, 15 May 2017 (UTC)

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	The Random Page button, which I use heavily to discover new things about nethack, feels like it results in 40% or 50% SLEX articles. Perhaps SLEX can take a page from other variants, and condense multiple small articles into one page? Monsters, especially, seem to be extremely numerous - when I'm Random Pageing, if I get a monster I find myself quickly scanning the page to see whether it's another single-fork-specific monster only, or found more generally in vanilla and/or multiple different forks. --[[User:Testbutt\|Testbutt]] ([[User talk:Testbutt\|talk]]) 20:07, 15 May 2017 (UTC)		The Random Page button, which I use heavily to discover new things about nethack, feels like it results in 40% or 50% SLEX articles. Perhaps SLEX can take a page from other variants, and condense multiple small articles into one page? Monsters, especially, seem to be extremely numerous - when I'm Random Pageing, if I get a monster I find myself quickly scanning the page to see whether it's another single-fork-specific monster only, or found more generally in vanilla and/or multiple different forks. --[[User:Testbutt\|Testbutt]] ([[User talk:Testbutt\|talk]]) 20:07, 15 May 2017 (UTC)
		+	:Hmm. I just tested this by hitting random page 40 times (probably too few, I know), and it resulted in a SLEX page exactly once; it gave dnethack monsters 3 times though and one from unnethack. Maybe you were seeing SLASH'EM monsters, which indeed all have their own pages? I intentionally didn't create a page for every SLEX monsters because then it would really dominate the entire wiki. --[[User:Bluescreenofdeath\|Bluescreenofdeath]] ([[User talk:Bluescreenofdeath\|talk]]) 20:42, 15 May 2017 (UTC)

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	== SLEX is overrunning the wiki ==		== SLEX is overrunning the wiki ==

−	The Random Page button, which I use heavily to discover new things about nethack, feels like it results in 40% or 50% SLEX articles. Perhaps SLEX can take a page from other variants, and condense multiple small articles into one page? Monsters, especially, seem to be extremely numerous - when I'm Random Pageing, if I get a monster I find myself quickly scanning the page to see whether it's another single-fork-specific monster only, or found more generally in vanilla and/or multiple different forks.	+	The Random Page button, which I use heavily to discover new things about nethack, feels like it results in 40% or 50% SLEX articles. Perhaps SLEX can take a page from other variants, and condense multiple small articles into one page? Monsters, especially, seem to be extremely numerous - when I'm Random Pageing, if I get a monster I find myself quickly scanning the page to see whether it's another single-fork-specific monster only, or found more generally in vanilla and/or multiple different forks. --[[User:Testbutt\|Testbutt]] ([[User talk:Testbutt\|talk]]) 20:07, 15 May 2017 (UTC)

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	:::::Exists in two flavors! SLASHTHEM is basically SLEX without SLEX, and picking the Soviet race in SLEX turns the game into "SLASHTHEM Extended", i.e. it still has SLEX's monsters, items, traps etc. but many of the more controversial parts of the game are rolled back to SLASH'EM behavior. Apart from that, I'm still swamped in things I want to implement in the actual SLEX, though. Gotta get a polished version ready before Junethack commences! --[[User:Bluescreenofdeath\|Bluescreenofdeath]] ([[User talk:Bluescreenofdeath\|talk]]) 10:25, 10 April 2017 (UTC)		:::::Exists in two flavors! SLASHTHEM is basically SLEX without SLEX, and picking the Soviet race in SLEX turns the game into "SLASHTHEM Extended", i.e. it still has SLEX's monsters, items, traps etc. but many of the more controversial parts of the game are rolled back to SLASH'EM behavior. Apart from that, I'm still swamped in things I want to implement in the actual SLEX, though. Gotta get a polished version ready before Junethack commences! --[[User:Bluescreenofdeath\|Bluescreenofdeath]] ([[User talk:Bluescreenofdeath\|talk]]) 10:25, 10 April 2017 (UTC)
	::::::Yes, to me SLASHTHEM is more reasonable and playable, sadly it looks abandoned... Best wishes in getting things done before June!--[[User:Transcendreamer\|Transcendreamer]] ([[User talk:Transcendreamer\|talk]]) 10:37, 10 April 2017 (UTC)		::::::Yes, to me SLASHTHEM is more reasonable and playable, sadly it looks abandoned... Best wishes in getting things done before June!--[[User:Transcendreamer\|Transcendreamer]] ([[User talk:Transcendreamer\|talk]]) 10:37, 10 April 2017 (UTC)
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		+	== SLEX is overrunning the wiki ==
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		+	The Random Page button, which I use heavily to discover new things about nethack, feels like it results in 40% or 50% SLEX articles. Perhaps SLEX can take a page from other variants, and condense multiple small articles into one page? Monsters, especially, seem to be extremely numerous - when I'm Random Pageing, if I get a monster I find myself quickly scanning the page to see whether it's another single-fork-specific monster only, or found more generally in vanilla and/or multiple different forks.