Talk:Special room - Revision history

Aximili: /* Layout overhaul */

2020-07-04T21:12:57Z

‎Layout overhaul

Phol ende wodan: /* Layout overhaul */

2020-07-04T20:22:22Z

‎Layout overhaul

Aximili: /* Layout overhaul */

2020-07-04T20:14:38Z

‎Layout overhaul

Phol ende wodan: /* Layout overhaul */

2020-07-04T11:59:17Z

‎Layout overhaul

Aximili: /* Layout overhaul */ new section

2020-07-04T04:45:47Z

‎Layout overhaul: new section

Pinkbeast: /* Graveyards */

2019-12-03T02:43:30Z

‎Graveyards

Ogmobot: /* Graveyards */ new section

2019-11-30T05:39:14Z

‎Graveyards: new section

Fyr: /* throne rooms and extinction */ new section

2018-04-29T23:57:54Z

‎throne rooms and extinction: new section

FJH: /* Treasure Zoo Strategies */

2011-08-26T03:15:31Z

‎Treasure Zoo Strategies

Havvy: /* Treasure Zoo Strategies */ new section

2011-03-05T07:36:01Z

‎Treasure Zoo Strategies: new section

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	::: * I have some other minor suggestions, but will just wait until the page is updated and then do them myself		::: * I have some other minor suggestions, but will just wait until the page is updated and then do them myself
	::: --[[User:Phol ende wodan\|Phol ende wodan]] ([[User talk:Phol ende wodan\|talk]]) 20:22, 4 July 2020 (UTC)		::: --[[User:Phol ende wodan\|Phol ende wodan]] ([[User talk:Phol ende wodan\|talk]]) 20:22, 4 July 2020 (UTC)
		+	:::: The page is updated now
		+	:::: --[[User:Aximili\|Aximili]] ([[User talk:Aximili\|talk]]) 21:12, 4 July 2020 (UTC)

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	:: Thanks for your feedback, I've incorporated your suggestions into [[User:Aximili/Test]]. Might put it in [[Special room]] later if nobody complains.		:: Thanks for your feedback, I've incorporated your suggestions into [[User:Aximili/Test]]. Might put it in [[Special room]] later if nobody complains.
	:: --[[User:Aximili\|Aximili]] ([[User talk:Aximili\|talk]]) 20:14, 4 July 2020 (UTC)		:: --[[User:Aximili\|Aximili]] ([[User talk:Aximili\|talk]]) 20:14, 4 July 2020 (UTC)
		+	::: Couple more things:
		+	::: * I think you can remove the DOD template, as the page is pretty much completely replacing anything from Dylan's spoiler
		+	::: * This should be tagged with the nethack-366 template since it's up to date with 3.6.6
		+	::: * I have some other minor suggestions, but will just wait until the page is updated and then do them myself
		+	::: --[[User:Phol ende wodan\|Phol ende wodan]] ([[User talk:Phol ende wodan\|talk]]) 20:22, 4 July 2020 (UTC)

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	:* Soldiers can't be genocided, so "if soldiers genocided/extinct" is less clear than necessary.		:* Soldiers can't be genocided, so "if soldiers genocided/extinct" is less clear than necessary.
	: --[[User:Phol ende wodan\|Phol ende wodan]] ([[User talk:Phol ende wodan\|talk]]) 11:59, 4 July 2020 (UTC)		: --[[User:Phol ende wodan\|Phol ende wodan]] ([[User talk:Phol ende wodan\|talk]]) 11:59, 4 July 2020 (UTC)
		+	:: Thanks for your feedback, I've incorporated your suggestions into [[User:Aximili/Test]]. Might put it in [[Special room]] later if nobody complains.
		+	:: --[[User:Aximili\|Aximili]] ([[User talk:Aximili\|talk]]) 20:14, 4 July 2020 (UTC)

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	--[[User:Aximili\|Aximili]] ([[User talk:Aximili\|talk]]) 04:45, 4 July 2020 (UTC)		--[[User:Aximili\|Aximili]] ([[User talk:Aximili\|talk]]) 04:45, 4 July 2020 (UTC)
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		+	: I like the new layout. Critiques of the data presented:
		+	:* How about we just make pages for leprechaun hall, beehive, anthole, and barracks, and link them here like the rest? Then we can do away with the Messages column.
		+	:** That should also probably get rid of the need for presenting where the page-less special rooms appear on special levels. The only thing left in the Notes column would be the genocided/extinct constraint on generation (which IMO is useful to keep on this page).
		+	:* If fire ants, giant ants, and soldier ants are all genocided/extinct, antholes will not generate at all (it won't create an anthole full of random monsters).
		+	:* Cockatrice nests don't generate if cockatrices are genocided/extinct.
		+	:* Soldiers can't be genocided, so "if soldiers genocided/extinct" is less clear than necessary.
		+	: --[[User:Phol ende wodan\|Phol ende wodan]] ([[User talk:Phol ende wodan\|talk]]) 11:59, 4 July 2020 (UTC)

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	Is it true that "Levels on which undead have ever been reverse genocided" are graveyards? I can't find any reference to it in the reverse genocide code ({{sourcecode\|read.c\|2321}}) --[[User:Ogmobot\|Ogmobot]] ([[User talk:Ogmobot\|talk]]) 05:39, 30 November 2019 (UTC)		Is it true that "Levels on which undead have ever been reverse genocided" are graveyards? I can't find any reference to it in the reverse genocide code ({{sourcecode\|read.c\|2321}}) --[[User:Ogmobot\|Ogmobot]] ([[User talk:Ogmobot\|talk]]) 05:39, 30 November 2019 (UTC)
	:No, AFAICT. Corrected. [[User:Pinkbeast\|Pinkbeast]] ([[User talk:Pinkbeast\|talk]]) 02:43, 3 December 2019 (UTC)		:No, AFAICT. Corrected. [[User:Pinkbeast\|Pinkbeast]] ([[User talk:Pinkbeast\|talk]]) 02:43, 3 December 2019 (UTC)
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		+	== Layout overhaul ==
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		+	Hey everyone, the TODO asking for a more readable layout has been sitting around for a long time. I finally made a new layout. You can see it at [[User:Aximili/Test]]. Also most of the special rooms now have their own articles now.
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		+	Should we use the new layout? If so, any changes you might suggest? I'm not going to apply it unless at least a couple people comment, it would be a major change.
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		+	--[[User:Aximili\|Aximili]] ([[User talk:Aximili\|talk]]) 04:45, 4 July 2020 (UTC)

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	Is it true that "Levels on which undead have ever been reverse genocided" are graveyards? I can't find any reference to it in the reverse genocide code ({{sourcecode\|read.c\|2321}}) --[[User:Ogmobot\|Ogmobot]] ([[User talk:Ogmobot\|talk]]) 05:39, 30 November 2019 (UTC)		Is it true that "Levels on which undead have ever been reverse genocided" are graveyards? I can't find any reference to it in the reverse genocide code ({{sourcecode\|read.c\|2321}}) --[[User:Ogmobot\|Ogmobot]] ([[User talk:Ogmobot\|talk]]) 05:39, 30 November 2019 (UTC)
		+	:No, AFAICT. Corrected. [[User:Pinkbeast\|Pinkbeast]] ([[User talk:Pinkbeast\|talk]]) 02:43, 3 December 2019 (UTC)

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	So extinct / genocided Throne Room monsters will be replaced with ordinary random monsters; but what if all ordinary monsters that might be generated on that level are also extinct or genocided? In that case does the throne room fail to appear at all, or is it just an empty room with a chest and a throne in it, or does it generate some random monsters irrespective of extinction?		So extinct / genocided Throne Room monsters will be replaced with ordinary random monsters; but what if all ordinary monsters that might be generated on that level are also extinct or genocided? In that case does the throne room fail to appear at all, or is it just an empty room with a chest and a throne in it, or does it generate some random monsters irrespective of extinction?
	[[User:Fyr\|Fyr]] ([[User talk:Fyr\|talk]]) 23:57, 29 April 2018 (UTC)		[[User:Fyr\|Fyr]] ([[User talk:Fyr\|talk]]) 23:57, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
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		+	== Graveyards ==
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		+	Is it true that "Levels on which undead have ever been reverse genocided" are graveyards? I can't find any reference to it in the reverse genocide code ({{sourcecode\|read.c\|2321}}) --[[User:Ogmobot\|Ogmobot]] ([[User talk:Ogmobot\|talk]]) 05:39, 30 November 2019 (UTC)

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	It might be wise to add strategies for defeating treasure zoos, like using [[Elbereth]] a few times. Could somebody more experienced write up a subsection for this? --[[User:Havvy\|Havvy]] 07:36, 5 March 2011 (UTC)		It might be wise to add strategies for defeating treasure zoos, like using [[Elbereth]] a few times. Could somebody more experienced write up a subsection for this? --[[User:Havvy\|Havvy]] 07:36, 5 March 2011 (UTC)
	: I fear only the [[Wizard of Yendor]] in [[Gehennom]] at the end of my life and the [[housecat]] in [[Sokoban]]'s Treasure Room at the beginning. --[[User:FJH\|FJH]] 03:15, 26 August 2011 (UTC)		: I fear only the [[Wizard of Yendor]] in [[Gehennom]] at the end of my life and the [[housecat]] in [[Sokoban]]'s Treasure Room at the beginning. --[[User:FJH\|FJH]] 03:15, 26 August 2011 (UTC)
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		+	== throne rooms and extinction ==
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		+	So extinct / genocided Throne Room monsters will be replaced with ordinary random monsters; but what if all ordinary monsters that might be generated on that level are also extinct or genocided? In that case does the throne room fail to appear at all, or is it just an empty room with a chest and a throne in it, or does it generate some random monsters irrespective of extinction?
		+	[[User:Fyr\|Fyr]] ([[User talk:Fyr\|talk]]) 23:57, 29 April 2018 (UTC)

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	It might be wise to add strategies for defeating treasure zoos, like using [[Elbereth]] a few times. Could somebody more experienced write up a subsection for this? --[[User:Havvy\|Havvy]] 07:36, 5 March 2011 (UTC)		It might be wise to add strategies for defeating treasure zoos, like using [[Elbereth]] a few times. Could somebody more experienced write up a subsection for this? --[[User:Havvy\|Havvy]] 07:36, 5 March 2011 (UTC)
		+	: I fear only the [[Wizard of Yendor]] in [[Gehennom]] at the end of my life and the [[housecat]] in [[Sokoban]]'s Treasure Room at the beginning. --[[User:FJH\|FJH]] 03:15, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

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	This is [[Fort Ludios]]. [[Special:Contributions/75.159.28.122\|75.159.28.122]] 05:13, 17 July 2009 (UTC)		This is [[Fort Ludios]]. [[Special:Contributions/75.159.28.122\|75.159.28.122]] 05:13, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
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		+	== Treasure Zoo Strategies ==
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		+	It might be wise to add strategies for defeating treasure zoos, like using [[Elbereth]] a few times. Could somebody more experienced write up a subsection for this? --[[User:Havvy\|Havvy]] 07:36, 5 March 2011 (UTC)