https://nethackwiki.com/index.php?action=history&feed=atom&title=Talk%3ASpellbook_of_create_familiarTalk:Spellbook of create familiar - Revision history2026-06-24T02:23:14ZRevision history for this page on the wikiMediaWiki 1.32.5https://nethackwiki.com/index.php?title=Talk:Spellbook_of_create_familiar&diff=88393&oldid=prevQazmlpok at 13:34, 18 February 20142014-02-18T13:34:15Z<p></p>
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<tr><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Can you get top-tier pets with this, eg an [[Archon]] or a [[Ki-rin]]? Can you get those from a [[Spellbook_of_polymorph]]? And anyway, how many characters reach sufficient skill levels in both clerical and matter to have a choice between the two?[[User:5thSetPin|5thSetPin]] ([[User talk:5thSetPin|talk]]) 03:53, 17 February 2014 (UTC)</div></td><td class='diff-marker'> </td><td style="background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;"><div>Can you get top-tier pets with this, eg an [[Archon]] or a [[Ki-rin]]? Can you get those from a [[Spellbook_of_polymorph]]? And anyway, how many characters reach sufficient skill levels in both clerical and matter to have a choice between the two?[[User:5thSetPin|5thSetPin]] ([[User talk:5thSetPin|talk]]) 03:53, 17 February 2014 (UTC)</div></td></tr>
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</table>Qazmlpokhttps://nethackwiki.com/index.php?title=Talk:Spellbook_of_create_familiar&diff=88388&oldid=prev5thSetPin: Can you get Good pets?2014-02-17T03:53:24Z<p>Can you get Good pets?</p>
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Can you get top-tier pets with this, eg an [[Archon]] or a [[Ki-rin]]? Can you get those from a [[Spellbook_of_polymorph]]? And anyway, how many characters reach sufficient skill levels in both clerical and matter to have a choice between the two?[[User:5thSetPin|5thSetPin]] ([[User talk:5thSetPin|talk]]) 03:53, 17 February 2014 (UTC)</div>5thSetPin