Talk:Sprig of wolfsbane - Revision history

Aximili: /* Wolves */

2019-12-11T21:38:30Z

Wolves

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	It seems to have been added by https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/79.200.66.30 as a bald assertion. [[User:Pinkbeast\|Pinkbeast]] ([[User talk:Pinkbeast\|talk]]) 20:10, 11 December 2019 (UTC)		It seems to have been added by https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/79.200.66.30 as a bald assertion. [[User:Pinkbeast\|Pinkbeast]] ([[User talk:Pinkbeast\|talk]]) 20:10, 11 December 2019 (UTC)

			: We should probably just remove that sentence. Firstly this is the article about wolfsbane, not about all the myriad reasons to kill wolves. Secondly this is all only tangentially related to the in-game item anyway. --[[User:Aximili\|Aximili]] ([[User talk:Aximili\|talk]]) 21:38, 11 December 2019 (UTC)

Pinkbeast: /* Wolves */ new section

2019-12-11T20:10:31Z

Wolves: new section

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	::I forgot to come back and update this. You were correct. I don't recall being interfered with, but for some reason my wolf form did not completely finish the wolfsbane sprig. A few days later, I noticed the partially-eaten sprig in my inventory. (Maybe eating was interfered with by a "Where do you wish to teleport?" prompt.) I wonder if a partially-eaten sprig will cure lycanthropy? Hmmm. Thanks for looking it up! --Clothos		::I forgot to come back and update this. You were correct. I don't recall being interfered with, but for some reason my wolf form did not completely finish the wolfsbane sprig. A few days later, I noticed the partially-eaten sprig in my inventory. (Maybe eating was interfered with by a "Where do you wish to teleport?" prompt.) I wonder if a partially-eaten sprig will cure lycanthropy? Hmmm. Thanks for looking it up! --Clothos

			== Wolves ==

			"Wolves were often killed by Christians for two reasons: first, wolves sometimes prey on livestock and were considered a pest; second, wolves were considered sacred by Germanics (for example Wotan is accompanied by the wolves Geri and Freki), and the monotheist Christians desecrated their values by killing them (or chopping down old oaks which were used to worship Tyr)."

			Is there any actual cite for this? It looks rather dubious; I daresay someone believes it but that doesn't make it true. (In particular, if wolves were killed for preying on livestock, was it accomplished with wolfsbane or, say, bows?)

			It seems to have been added by https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/79.200.66.30 as a bald assertion. [[User:Pinkbeast\|Pinkbeast]] ([[User talk:Pinkbeast\|talk]]) 20:10, 11 December 2019 (UTC)

Clothos at 05:30, 15 May 2013

2013-05-15T05:30:14Z

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	: Prayer only calls the same code path.		: Prayer only calls the same code path.
	: Maybe you could check your [[ttyrec]], and [http://alt.org/nethack/browsettyrec.php?player=Clothos provide a pointer] if you really ate it up. --[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] ([[User talk:Tjr\|talk]]) 07:06, 13 May 2013 (UTC)		: Maybe you could check your [[ttyrec]], and [http://alt.org/nethack/browsettyrec.php?player=Clothos provide a pointer] if you really ate it up. --[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] ([[User talk:Tjr\|talk]]) 07:06, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

			::I forgot to come back and update this. You were correct. I don't recall being interfered with, but for some reason my wolf form did not completely finish the wolfsbane sprig. A few days later, I noticed the partially-eaten sprig in my inventory. (Maybe eating was interfered with by a "Where do you wish to teleport?" prompt.) I wonder if a partially-eaten sprig will cure lycanthropy? Hmmm. Thanks for looking it up! --Clothos

Tjr: ttyrec

2013-05-13T07:08:20Z

ttyrec

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	: Now that's odd. Did you finish eating the sprig of wolfsbane? Did you get the message "You feel purified."? As I read the code, you should always get cured if you eat it up. Call trace: {{sourcecode\|eat.c\|2091}}, {{sourcecode\|eat.c\|1368}}, {{sourcecode\|eat.c\|412}}, {{sourcecode\|eat.c\|433}}, {{sourcecode\|eat.c\|1681}}, {{sourcecode\|were.c\|156}}.		: Now that's odd. Did you finish eating the sprig of wolfsbane? Did you get the message "You feel purified."? As I read the code, you should always get cured if you eat it up. Call trace: {{sourcecode\|eat.c\|2091}}, {{sourcecode\|eat.c\|1368}}, {{sourcecode\|eat.c\|412}}, {{sourcecode\|eat.c\|433}}, {{sourcecode\|eat.c\|1681}}, {{sourcecode\|were.c\|156}}.
	: Prayer only calls the same code path. --[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] ([[User talk:Tjr\|talk]]) 07:06, 13 May 2013 (UTC)		: Prayer only calls the same code path.
			: Maybe you could check your [[ttyrec]], and [http://alt.org/nethack/browsettyrec.php?player=Clothos provide a pointer] if you really ate it up. --[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] ([[User talk:Tjr\|talk]]) 07:06, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

Tjr: odd, indeed

2013-05-13T07:06:46Z

odd, indeed

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	Of course, prayer can work wonders in such situations. --Clothos		Of course, prayer can work wonders in such situations. --Clothos

			: Now that's odd. Did you finish eating the sprig of wolfsbane? Did you get the message "You feel purified."? As I read the code, you should always get cured if you eat it up. Call trace: {{sourcecode\|eat.c\|2091}}, {{sourcecode\|eat.c\|1368}}, {{sourcecode\|eat.c\|412}}, {{sourcecode\|eat.c\|433}}, {{sourcecode\|eat.c\|1681}}, {{sourcecode\|were.c\|156}}.
			: Prayer only calls the same code path. --[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] ([[User talk:Tjr\|talk]]) 07:06, 13 May 2013 (UTC)

Clothos: Chance of failure

2013-05-12T23:15:18Z

Chance of failure

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Odd. On NAO (3.4.3), despite max luck and both a cloak of MR and Magicbane, I somehow contracted lycanthropy and transformed into a wolf one turn after I had taken my wolfsbane out of my BoH. I ate the wolfsbane as a wolf, and nothing happened. Assuming I was somehow "cured," but left in wolf form, I was able to put on my ring of polymorph control and zap a /oPolymorph to return to human form. Two turns later I was asked if I wanted to turn into a wolf (still had on the =oPC). So clearly the wolfsbane did nothing.

Thus the absolute statement "Eating a sprig of wolfsbane cures lycanthropy." is clearly subject to one or more of: restrictions (such as "does not apply when in wolf form"), a "chance to resist," or like nearly all actions within the dungeon, some odds of failure.

Of course, prayer can work wonders in such situations. --Clothos