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		<title>Umbire the Phantom: :v</title>
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		<updated>2022-08-22T03:30:08Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;:v&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #222; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;← Older revision&lt;/td&gt;
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				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l5&quot; &gt;Line 5:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;::That's fair. Now that you mention it, that's also consistent with how a lot of strategy sections are written on this wiki. However I still think Removal should be moved up a section because of the legacy from the  Trap page. --[[User:Aximili|Aximili]] ([[User talk:Aximili|talk]]) 03:25, 22 August 2022 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;::That's fair. Now that you mention it, that's also consistent with how a lot of strategy sections are written on this wiki. However I still think Removal should be moved up a section because of the legacy from the  Trap page. --[[User:Aximili|Aximili]] ([[User talk:Aximili|talk]]) 03:25, 22 August 2022 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;:::I mean, I said I didn't mind. The legacy argument isn't really compelling to me, though - I see it as more splitting &amp;quot;how to remove a trap&amp;quot; from &amp;quot;when you want to remove them&amp;quot;. --[[User:Umbire the Phantom|Umbire the Phantom]] ([[User talk:Umbire the Phantom|talk]]) 03:30, 22 August 2022 (UTC)&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>Aximili: /* Removal section */ i kind of agree, but will still move the section up a level</title>
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		<updated>2022-08-22T03:25:19Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;‎&lt;span dir=&quot;auto&quot;&gt;&lt;span class=&quot;autocomment&quot;&gt;Removal section: &lt;/span&gt; i kind of agree, but will still move the section up a level&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:Removing traps is usually a part of trap strategy - I don't mind moving it up a level, but listing removal options for when a player deems it necessary to do so isn't really arguing &amp;quot;always remove this trap&amp;quot;. --[[User:Umbire the Phantom|Umbire the Phantom]] ([[User talk:Umbire the Phantom|talk]]) 03:20, 22 August 2022 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:Removing traps is usually a part of trap strategy - I don't mind moving it up a level, but listing removal options for when a player deems it necessary to do so isn't really arguing &amp;quot;always remove this trap&amp;quot;. --[[User:Umbire the Phantom|Umbire the Phantom]] ([[User talk:Umbire the Phantom|talk]]) 03:20, 22 August 2022 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;::That's fair. Now that you mention it, that's also consistent with how a lot of strategy sections are written on this wiki. However I still think Removal should be moved up a section because of the legacy from the  Trap page. --[[User:Aximili|Aximili]] ([[User talk:Aximili|talk]]) 03:25, 22 August 2022 (UTC)&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>Umbire the Phantom: reply</title>
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		<updated>2022-08-22T03:20:43Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;reply&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l1&quot; &gt;Line 1:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;==Removal section==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;==Removal section==&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;I think the removal section for trap pages should be separate from the strategy section. Removal was a sort of pseudo-section repeated for all traps when all their content was on the [[Trap]] page. Furthermore trap removal is not always a good use of a player's resources. --[[User:Aximili|Aximili]] ([[User talk:Aximili|talk]]) 03:11, 22 August 2022 (UTC)&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;−&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;I think the removal section for &lt;/del&gt;trap &lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;pages should be separate from the &lt;/del&gt;strategy &lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;section. Removal was &lt;/del&gt;a &lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;sort of pseudo-section repeated &lt;/del&gt;for &lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;all traps &lt;/del&gt;when &lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;all their content was on the [[Trap]] page. Furthermore trap removal is not always a good use of &lt;/del&gt;a player'&lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;s resources&lt;/del&gt;. --[[User:&lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;Aximili&lt;/del&gt;|&lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;Aximili&lt;/del&gt;]] ([[User talk:&lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;Aximili&lt;/del&gt;|talk]]) 03:&lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;11&lt;/del&gt;, 22 August 2022 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class='diff-marker'&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #222; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;:Removing traps is usually a part of &lt;/ins&gt;trap strategy &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;- I don't mind moving it up &lt;/ins&gt;a &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;level, but listing removal options &lt;/ins&gt;for when a player &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;deems it necessary to do so isn&lt;/ins&gt;'&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;t really arguing &amp;quot;always remove this trap&amp;quot;&lt;/ins&gt;. --[[User:&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;Umbire the Phantom&lt;/ins&gt;|&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;Umbire the Phantom&lt;/ins&gt;]] ([[User talk:&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;Umbire the Phantom&lt;/ins&gt;|talk]]) 03:&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;20&lt;/ins&gt;, 22 August 2022 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>Aximili: removal should be its own section</title>
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		<updated>2022-08-22T03:11:22Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;removal should be its own section&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;==Removal section==&lt;br /&gt;
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I think the removal section for trap pages should be separate from the strategy section. Removal was a sort of pseudo-section repeated for all traps when all their content was on the [[Trap]] page. Furthermore trap removal is not always a good use of a player's resources. --[[User:Aximili|Aximili]] ([[User talk:Aximili|talk]]) 03:11, 22 August 2022 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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