Talk:Stethoscope - Revision history

Train: /* Whirly interference */

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Thefifthsetpin at 04:23, 11 May 2011

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Kalon: /* Stethoscope doesn't exercise wisdom? */

2008-04-04T04:02:42Z

‎Stethoscope doesn't exercise wisdom?

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==Stethoscope doesn't exercise wisdom?==
My code diving is fairly amateurish, but I think that you don't exercise wisdom if you use a stethoscope to detect sercret doors. My reasons:

* Stethoscope use is dealt with in [[apply.c]]. The section in question, [[apply.c#line292]], when you use a stethoscope and do find a secret door, the function called is <tt>cvt_sdoor_to_door(lev)</tt>. This is dealt with in [[detect.c#line980]], which only returns the appropriate modifications to the map (<tt>NEWMASK</tt>) but nothing else.
* Rather than use a specific function like stethoscopes, if you search "normally" using the "s" key, you reference the function <tt>dosearch()</tt> which goes to <tt>dosearch0()</tt> which contains <tt>EXERCISE(A_WIS, TRUE)</tt> which is the statement that handles exercise of a stat.

This is depressing for my Healers, who usually are so fragile I can't spend 15+ turns as a sitting duck searching at the end of a seemingly dead-end corridor, and use the stethoscope regularly.

Can someone please confirm or refute this? Also do [[we]] think Wisdom should be exercised on a successful secret-door-detection-with-stethoscope? -- [[User:Kalon|Kalon]] 04:02, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

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	:If you're a healer, roll d10. If you roll a 1, your probing fails; otherwise it works. If you're anything else, roll a d3. If you roll a 1, your probing fails; otherwise it works.		:If you're a healer, roll d10. If you roll a 1, your probing fails; otherwise it works. If you're anything else, roll a d3. If you roll a 1, your probing fails; otherwise it works.
	Which also seems more consistent with wizard-testing. So I think that <code>rn2(x)</code> is TRUE if positive, FALSE if negative or neutral. Am I entirely misled?__[[User:Train\|Train]] ([[User talk:Train\|talk]]) 11:31, 12 June 2015 (UTC)		Which also seems more consistent with wizard-testing. So I think that <code>rn2(x)</code> is TRUE if positive, FALSE if negative or neutral. Am I entirely misled?__[[User:Train\|Train]] ([[User talk:Train\|talk]]) 11:31, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
		+	:Since there have been no answers, I've made the specified change.__[[User:Train\|Train]] ([[User talk:Train\|talk]]) 08:05, 26 June 2015 (UTC)

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	Just that it's less likely to become cursed. There are minor disadvantages to a cursed stethoscope. -- [[User:Thefifthsetpin\|Thefifthsetpin]] 04:23, 11 May 2011 (UTC)		Just that it's less likely to become cursed. There are minor disadvantages to a cursed stethoscope. -- [[User:Thefifthsetpin\|Thefifthsetpin]] 04:23, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
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		+	== Whirly interference ==
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		+	<b>"The <monster> interferes"</b>
		+	You applied the stethoscope while engulfed by a [[whirly]] monster. (90% chance of interference, 67% for healers)
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		+	I don't think this is true. Reading [[apply.c#line212]], which is probably the inspiration, it seems that one should roll an <code>[[rn2]](10)</code> for healers and an <code>rn2(3)</code> otherwise. Since it is preceded by <code>!</code>, I would guess that this bit is to be read like so:
		+	:If you're a healer, roll d10. If you roll a 1, your probing fails; otherwise it works. If you're anything else, roll a d3. If you roll a 1, your probing fails; otherwise it works.
		+	Which also seems more consistent with wizard-testing. So I think that <code>rn2(x)</code> is TRUE if positive, FALSE if negative or neutral. Am I entirely misled?__[[User:Train\|Train]] ([[User talk:Train\|talk]]) 11:31, 12 June 2015 (UTC)

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	do i get some extra info?		do i get some extra info?
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		+	Just that it's less likely to become cursed. There are minor disadvantages to a cursed stethoscope. -- [[User:Thefifthsetpin\|Thefifthsetpin]] 04:23, 11 May 2011 (UTC)

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	Can someone please confirm or refute this? Also do [[we]] think Wisdom should be exercised on a successful secret-door-detection-with-stethoscope? -- [[User:Kalon\|Kalon]] 04:02, 4 April 2008 (UTC)		Can someone please confirm or refute this? Also do [[we]] think Wisdom should be exercised on a successful secret-door-detection-with-stethoscope? -- [[User:Kalon\|Kalon]] 04:02, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
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		+	== any advantages from a blessed stethoscope? ==
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		+	do i get some extra info?