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		<title>220.255.2.53 at 13:01, 10 October 2011</title>
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		<updated>2011-10-10T13:01:38Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;← Older revision&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; style=&quot;background-color: #fff; color: #202122; text-align: center;&quot;&gt;Revision as of 13:01, 10 October 2011&lt;/td&gt;
				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l3&quot;&gt;Line 3:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;::Due to a bug (in vanilla 3.4.3, at least), I believe you can put on a &amp;quot;oLS, then attempt to eat the same Rider corpse twice in a row; IIRC, it succeeds the second time without killing you. I &amp;#039;&amp;#039;strongly&amp;#039;&amp;#039; recommend wiztesting this before trying it for real, because if I&amp;#039;ve misremembered it&amp;#039;ll be Yet Another (very) Stupid Death. [[User:Ais523|Ais523]] 10:35, 10 October 2011 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;::Due to a bug (in vanilla 3.4.3, at least), I believe you can put on a &amp;quot;oLS, then attempt to eat the same Rider corpse twice in a row; IIRC, it succeeds the second time without killing you. I &amp;#039;&amp;#039;strongly&amp;#039;&amp;#039; recommend wiztesting this before trying it for real, because if I&amp;#039;ve misremembered it&amp;#039;ll be Yet Another (very) Stupid Death. [[User:Ais523|Ais523]] 10:35, 10 October 2011 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:::If that&amp;#039;s possible, it sounds like an effect of the &amp;quot;pick off the manky bits/resume your meal&amp;quot; bug. --[[User:FJH|FJH]] 10:59, 10 October 2011 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:::If that&amp;#039;s possible, it sounds like an effect of the &amp;quot;pick off the manky bits/resume your meal&amp;quot; bug. --[[User:FJH|FJH]] 10:59, 10 October 2011 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;:::No, that does not work: it will revive immediately after you are lifesaved. [[Special:Contributions/220.255.2.53|220.255.2.53]] 13:01, 10 October 2011 (UTC)&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>FJH: No less cool, mind you.</title>
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		<updated>2011-10-10T10:59:13Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;No less cool, mind you.&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l2&quot;&gt;Line 2:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:No, it only does up to 199 damage, so you could survive (same holds true for the Eye of the Beholder).  Even if you couldn&amp;#039;t survive that way, you could just wear an amulet of life saving.  That won&amp;#039;t work to eat the Rider corpses though; the amulet will save you, but the corpse won&amp;#039;t be eaten at all.  -[[User:Ion frigate|Ion frigate]] 08:23, November 5, 2010 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:No, it only does up to 199 damage, so you could survive (same holds true for the Eye of the Beholder).  Even if you couldn&amp;#039;t survive that way, you could just wear an amulet of life saving.  That won&amp;#039;t work to eat the Rider corpses though; the amulet will save you, but the corpse won&amp;#039;t be eaten at all.  -[[User:Ion frigate|Ion frigate]] 08:23, November 5, 2010 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;::Due to a bug (in vanilla 3.4.3, at least), I believe you can put on a &amp;quot;oLS, then attempt to eat the same Rider corpse twice in a row; IIRC, it succeeds the second time without killing you. I &amp;#039;&amp;#039;strongly&amp;#039;&amp;#039; recommend wiztesting this before trying it for real, because if I&amp;#039;ve misremembered it&amp;#039;ll be Yet Another (very) Stupid Death. [[User:Ais523|Ais523]] 10:35, 10 October 2011 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;::Due to a bug (in vanilla 3.4.3, at least), I believe you can put on a &amp;quot;oLS, then attempt to eat the same Rider corpse twice in a row; IIRC, it succeeds the second time without killing you. I &amp;#039;&amp;#039;strongly&amp;#039;&amp;#039; recommend wiztesting this before trying it for real, because if I&amp;#039;ve misremembered it&amp;#039;ll be Yet Another (very) Stupid Death. [[User:Ais523|Ais523]] 10:35, 10 October 2011 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;:::If that&#039;s possible, it sounds like an effect of the &quot;pick off the manky bits/resume your meal&quot; bug. --[[User:FJH|FJH]] 10:59, 10 October 2011 (UTC)&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<author><name>FJH</name></author>
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		<title>Ais523: IIRC you can eat rider corpses using a &quot;oLS and a bug in the eating code</title>
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		<updated>2011-10-10T10:35:23Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;IIRC you can eat rider corpses using a &amp;quot;oLS and a bug in the eating code&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l1&quot;&gt;Line 1:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;But if you ate everything in the dungeon, wouldn&amp;#039;t that include the hand of vecna (and therefore have you die) -1337doom&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;But if you ate everything in the dungeon, wouldn&amp;#039;t that include the hand of vecna (and therefore have you die) -1337doom&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:No, it only does up to 199 damage, so you could survive (same holds true for the Eye of the Beholder).  Even if you couldn&amp;#039;t survive that way, you could just wear an amulet of life saving.  That won&amp;#039;t work to eat the Rider corpses though; the amulet will save you, but the corpse won&amp;#039;t be eaten at all.  -[[User:Ion frigate|Ion frigate]] 08:23, November 5, 2010 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;:No, it only does up to 199 damage, so you could survive (same holds true for the Eye of the Beholder).  Even if you couldn&amp;#039;t survive that way, you could just wear an amulet of life saving.  That won&amp;#039;t work to eat the Rider corpses though; the amulet will save you, but the corpse won&amp;#039;t be eaten at all.  -[[User:Ion frigate|Ion frigate]] 08:23, November 5, 2010 (UTC)&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;::Due to a bug (in vanilla 3.4.3, at least), I believe you can put on a &quot;oLS, then attempt to eat the same Rider corpse twice in a row; IIRC, it succeeds the second time without killing you. I &#039;&#039;strongly&#039;&#039; recommend wiztesting this before trying it for real, because if I&#039;ve misremembered it&#039;ll be Yet Another (very) Stupid Death. [[User:Ais523|Ais523]] 10:35, 10 October 2011 (UTC)&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>Ion frigate at 08:23, 5 November 2010</title>
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		<updated>2010-11-05T08:23:05Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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				&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-lineno&quot; id=&quot;mw-diff-left-l1&quot;&gt;Line 1:&lt;/td&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;But if you ate everything in the dungeon, wouldn&amp;#039;t that include the hand of vecna (and therefore have you die) -1337doom&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;But if you ate everything in the dungeon, wouldn&amp;#039;t that include the hand of vecna (and therefore have you die) -1337doom&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td colspan=&quot;2&quot; class=&quot;diff-side-deleted&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&quot;diff-marker&quot; data-marker=&quot;+&quot;&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins style=&quot;font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none;&quot;&gt;:No, it only does up to 199 damage, so you could survive (same holds true for the Eye of the Beholder).  Even if you couldn&#039;t survive that way, you could just wear an amulet of life saving.  That won&#039;t work to eat the Rider corpses though; the amulet will save you, but the corpse won&#039;t be eaten at all.  -[[User:Ion frigate|Ion frigate]] 08:23, November 5, 2010 (UTC)&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>1337doom: Created page with &quot;But if you ate everything in the dungeon, wouldn&#039;t that include the hand of vecna (and therefore have you die) -1337doom&quot;</title>
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		<updated>2010-11-04T23:19:26Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Created page with &amp;quot;But if you ate everything in the dungeon, wouldn&amp;#039;t that include the hand of vecna (and therefore have you die) -1337doom&amp;quot;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;But if you ate everything in the dungeon, wouldn&amp;#039;t that include the hand of vecna (and therefore have you die) -1337doom&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
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