Talk:Summon nasties - Revision history

Actual-nh: /* Demon lords and princes */ Quite welcome

2021-04-02T01:42:20Z

‎Demon lords and princes: Quite welcome

Umbire the Phantom: /* Demon lords and princes */

2021-04-02T01:38:55Z

‎Demon lords and princes

Actual-nh: /* Demon lords and princes */ Via summon nasties? Not outside of Gehennom

2021-04-01T00:15:15Z

‎Demon lords and princes: Via summon nasties? Not outside of Gehennom

Umbire the Phantom: /* Demon lords and princes */

2021-03-31T22:53:24Z

‎Demon lords and princes

Andrio Celos: /* Demon lords and princes */

2021-03-30T05:05:17Z

‎Demon lords and princes

Umbire the Phantom: /* Demon lords and princes */ new section

2021-03-30T03:50:40Z

‎Demon lords and princes: new section

Derekt75: thanks

2011-11-05T04:52:21Z

thanks

Tjr at 00:07, 4 November 2011

2011-11-04T00:07:31Z

Ion frigate at 18:06, 3 November 2011

2011-11-03T18:06:42Z

Ion frigate at 18:06, 3 November 2011

2011-11-03T18:06:22Z

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	::Alright, thank you. --[[User:Umbire the Phantom\|Umbire the Phantom]] ([[User talk:Umbire the Phantom\|talk]]) 01:38, 2 April 2021 (UTC)		::Alright, thank you. --[[User:Umbire the Phantom\|Umbire the Phantom]] ([[User talk:Umbire the Phantom\|talk]]) 01:38, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
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		+	:::Quite welcome. -[[User:Actual-nh\|Actual-nh]] ([[User talk:Actual-nh\|talk]]) 01:42, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

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	:::From the code, not as far as I can tell ''via summon nasties''. -[[User:Actual-nh\|Actual-nh]] ([[User talk:Actual-nh\|talk]]) 00:15, 1 April 2021 (UTC)		:::From the code, not as far as I can tell ''via summon nasties''. -[[User:Actual-nh\|Actual-nh]] ([[User talk:Actual-nh\|talk]]) 00:15, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
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		+	::Alright, thank you. --[[User:Umbire the Phantom\|Umbire the Phantom]] ([[User talk:Umbire the Phantom\|talk]]) 01:38, 2 April 2021 (UTC)

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	::righto, thank you for the citation. Is it possible for the Wizard (and by extension any sufficiently-leveled caster) ''outside'' Gehennom as well? --[[User:Umbire the Phantom\|Umbire the Phantom]] ([[User talk:Umbire the Phantom\|talk]]) 22:53, 31 March 2021 (UTC)		::righto, thank you for the citation. Is it possible for the Wizard (and by extension any sufficiently-leveled caster) ''outside'' Gehennom as well? --[[User:Umbire the Phantom\|Umbire the Phantom]] ([[User talk:Umbire the Phantom\|talk]]) 22:53, 31 March 2021 (UTC)
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		+	:::From the code, not as far as I can tell ''via summon nasties''. -[[User:Actual-nh\|Actual-nh]] ([[User talk:Actual-nh\|talk]]) 00:15, 1 April 2021 (UTC)

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	: When cast in Gehennom, it has a chance to summon demons as if cast by the [[Wizard of Yendor]] regardless of who's actually casting it{{refsrc\|src/wizard.c\|558\|nethack=3.6.6}}. This means a demon lord or prince may be summoned. - [[User:Andrio Celos\|Andrio Celos]] ([[User talk:Andrio Celos\|talk]]) 05:04, 30 March 2021 (UTC)		: When cast in Gehennom, it has a chance to summon demons as if cast by the [[Wizard of Yendor]] regardless of who's actually casting it{{refsrc\|src/wizard.c\|558\|nethack=3.6.6}}. This means a demon lord or prince may be summoned. - [[User:Andrio Celos\|Andrio Celos]] ([[User talk:Andrio Celos\|talk]]) 05:04, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
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		+	::righto, thank you for the citation. Is it possible for the Wizard (and by extension any sufficiently-leveled caster) ''outside'' Gehennom as well? --[[User:Umbire the Phantom\|Umbire the Phantom]] ([[User talk:Umbire the Phantom\|talk]]) 22:53, 31 March 2021 (UTC)

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	Just to establish and clarify, can the spell summon any of them when used by demons? --[[User:Umbire the Phantom\|Umbire the Phantom]] ([[User talk:Umbire the Phantom\|talk]]) 03:50, 30 March 2021 (UTC)		Just to establish and clarify, can the spell summon any of them when used by demons? --[[User:Umbire the Phantom\|Umbire the Phantom]] ([[User talk:Umbire the Phantom\|talk]]) 03:50, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
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		+	: When cast in Gehennom, it has a chance to summon demons as if cast by the [[Wizard of Yendor]] regardless of who's actually casting it{{refsrc\|src/wizard.c\|558\|nethack=3.6.6}}. This means a demon lord or prince may be summoned. - [[User:Andrio Celos\|Andrio Celos]] ([[User talk:Andrio Celos\|talk]]) 05:04, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

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	::Probably somebody confused that with demon summoning. --[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] 00:07, 4 November 2011 (UTC)		::Probably somebody confused that with demon summoning. --[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] 00:07, 4 November 2011 (UTC)
	::Thanks for fixing. and yes, it was late at night, but I should have used my wand of lightning for an Elbereth. (hadn't found a wand of fire yet). I just didn't pay attention to that nasty h next to me until I had severe amnesia (but fortunately survived). To make matters worse, I forgot to bring a potion of see invisible from my stash, so I wore a blindfold to see the titan... and then got touched by a green slime that I couldn't see while I was mopping up the other nasties. I had prayed about 1000 turns ago, so I wasn't sure if I should use that. I instead wound up using my "oLS. and then I thought about crossing the lake while I could fly (I had no way to levitate). As soon as I got to the water, an electric eel destroyed my =oTC, =oPoly, and some other ring (but fortunately not my =oPolyControl, and didn't drown me). I promptly retreated, but in the span of a couple minutes, I had gotten some serious amnesia, lost an "oLS, and lost several useful rings. argh. [[User:Derekt75\|Derekt75]] 04:52, 5 November 2011 (UTC)		::Thanks for fixing. and yes, it was late at night, but I should have used my wand of lightning for an Elbereth. (hadn't found a wand of fire yet). I just didn't pay attention to that nasty h next to me until I had severe amnesia (but fortunately survived). To make matters worse, I forgot to bring a potion of see invisible from my stash, so I wore a blindfold to see the titan... and then got touched by a green slime that I couldn't see while I was mopping up the other nasties. I had prayed about 1000 turns ago, so I wasn't sure if I should use that. I instead wound up using my "oLS. and then I thought about crossing the lake while I could fly (I had no way to levitate). As soon as I got to the water, an electric eel destroyed my =oTC, =oPoly, and some other ring (but fortunately not my =oPolyControl, and didn't drown me). I promptly retreated, but in the span of a couple minutes, I had gotten some serious amnesia, lost an "oLS, and lost several useful rings. argh. [[User:Derekt75\|Derekt75]] 04:52, 5 November 2011 (UTC)
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		+	== Demon lords and princes ==
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		+	Just to establish and clarify, can the spell summon any of them when used by demons? --[[User:Umbire the Phantom\|Umbire the Phantom]] ([[User talk:Umbire the Phantom\|talk]]) 03:50, 30 March 2021 (UTC)

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	:Not to armchair general too much here, but a burned Elbereth square or scroll of scare monster would have been far more effective, especially in combination with black dragon polyself. -[[User:Ion frigate\|Ion frigate]] 18:06, 3 November 2011 (UTC)		:Not to armchair general too much here, but a burned Elbereth square or scroll of scare monster would have been far more effective, especially in combination with black dragon polyself. -[[User:Ion frigate\|Ion frigate]] 18:06, 3 November 2011 (UTC)
	::Probably somebody confused that with demon summoning. --[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] 00:07, 4 November 2011 (UTC)		::Probably somebody confused that with demon summoning. --[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] 00:07, 4 November 2011 (UTC)
		+	::Thanks for fixing. and yes, it was late at night, but I should have used my wand of lightning for an Elbereth. (hadn't found a wand of fire yet). I just didn't pay attention to that nasty h next to me until I had severe amnesia (but fortunately survived). To make matters worse, I forgot to bring a potion of see invisible from my stash, so I wore a blindfold to see the titan... and then got touched by a green slime that I couldn't see while I was mopping up the other nasties. I had prayed about 1000 turns ago, so I wasn't sure if I should use that. I instead wound up using my "oLS. and then I thought about crossing the lake while I could fly (I had no way to levitate). As soon as I got to the water, an electric eel destroyed my =oTC, =oPoly, and some other ring (but fortunately not my =oPolyControl, and didn't drown me). I promptly retreated, but in the span of a couple minutes, I had gotten some serious amnesia, lost an "oLS, and lost several useful rings. argh. [[User:Derekt75\|Derekt75]] 04:52, 5 November 2011 (UTC)

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	:Yeah I think that was wrong, actually. I can't find any reference to alignment in [[mcastu.c]] for the summon nasties spell. I went ahead and removed it.		:Yeah I think that was wrong, actually. I can't find any reference to alignment in [[mcastu.c]] for the summon nasties spell. I went ahead and removed it.
	:Not to armchair general too much here, but a burned Elbereth square or scroll of scare monster would have been far more effective, especially in combination with black dragon polyself. -[[User:Ion frigate\|Ion frigate]] 18:06, 3 November 2011 (UTC)		:Not to armchair general too much here, but a burned Elbereth square or scroll of scare monster would have been far more effective, especially in combination with black dragon polyself. -[[User:Ion frigate\|Ion frigate]] 18:06, 3 November 2011 (UTC)
		+	::Probably somebody confused that with demon summoning. --[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] 00:07, 4 November 2011 (UTC)

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 The article says that monsters are created that are the same alignment as the caster or neutral, so I thought that I could polyself into a black dragon and disintegrate Medusa's pet titan(lawful) without fear of Lichs or MMFs(chaotic) being summoned.  and then the MMF ate my brain a bunch of times before I could disintegrate him, too.  :-(  So, what does it mean that the summoned monsters are the same alignment or neutral?  Thanks [[User:Derekt75|Derekt75]] 09:50, 3 November 2011 (UTC)
-:Yeah I think that was wrong, actually.  I can't find any reference to alignment in [[mcastu.c]] for the summon nasties spell.  I went ahead and changed that.
+:Yeah I think that was wrong, actually.  I can't find any reference to alignment in [[mcastu.c]] for the summon nasties spell.  I went ahead and removed it.
 :Not to armchair general too much here, but a burned Elbereth square or scroll of scare monster would have been far more effective, especially in combination with black dragon polyself. -[[User:Ion frigate|Ion frigate]] 18:06, 3 November 2011 (UTC)

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	The article says that monsters are created that are the same alignment as the caster or neutral, so I thought that I could polyself into a black dragon and disintegrate Medusa's pet titan(lawful) without fear of Lichs or MMFs(chaotic) being summoned. and then the MMF ate my brain a bunch of times before I could disintegrate him, too. :-( So, what does it mean that the summoned monsters are the same alignment or neutral? Thanks [[User:Derekt75\|Derekt75]] 09:50, 3 November 2011 (UTC)		The article says that monsters are created that are the same alignment as the caster or neutral, so I thought that I could polyself into a black dragon and disintegrate Medusa's pet titan(lawful) without fear of Lichs or MMFs(chaotic) being summoned. and then the MMF ate my brain a bunch of times before I could disintegrate him, too. :-( So, what does it mean that the summoned monsters are the same alignment or neutral? Thanks [[User:Derekt75\|Derekt75]] 09:50, 3 November 2011 (UTC)
		+	:Yeah I think that was wrong, actually. I can't find any reference to alignment in [[mcastu.c]] for the summon nasties spell. I went ahead and changed that.
		+	:Not to armchair general too much here, but a burned Elbereth square or scroll of scare monster would have been far more effective, especially in combination with black dragon polyself. -[[User:Ion frigate\|Ion frigate]] 18:06, 3 November 2011 (UTC)