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Umbire the Phantom: /* Lawful monsters in Gehennemon */

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‎Lawful monsters in Gehennemon

A1: /* EvilHack's Sceptre */

2024-11-25T03:13:29Z

‎EvilHack's Sceptre

Umbire the Phantom: /* EvilHack's Sceptre */ header

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‎EvilHack's Sceptre: header

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Hackemslashem: EvilHack note

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Blackcustard: /* Wish */ Reply.

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‎Wish: Reply.

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2011-07-17T20:47:43Z

‎Wish: new section

Ilmari Karonen: copy discussion from http://nethack.wikia.com/wiki/Talk:The_Sceptre_of_Might

2010-11-14T00:26:30Z

copy discussion from http://nethack.wikia.com/wiki/Talk:The_Sceptre_of_Might

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What happens if you invoke it for conclict, then drop it? What if you pick it up against afterwards? [[Special:Contributions/131.118.50.113|131.118.50.113]] 14:15, November 9, 2010 (UTC)
:Dropping the Sceptre, or putting in in a container, or having it stolen, turns off the invoked conflict. It stays off even when you pick it up again, although you can turn it back on when it's no longer tired. The Orb of Detection and Heart of Ahriman work the same way. --[[User:Darth l33t|Darth l33t]] 18:56, November 9, 2010 (UTC)
::thanks. So you would pretty much never want to waste an invoke to turn conflict off? (except in situtions where you don't want to risk losing MR for even one turn) [[Special:Contributions/131.118.34.73|131.118.34.73]] 21:26, November 13, 2010 (UTC)

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	==Lawful monsters in Gehennemon==		==Lawful monsters in Gehennemon==
	The text states that lawful monsters don't generate in Gehennemon, but what about the lawful major demons who accept bribes (Asmodeus, etc)? --[[User:A1\|A1]] ([[User talk:A1\|talk]]) 03:13, 25 November 2024 (UTC)		The text states that lawful monsters don't generate in Gehennemon, but what about the lawful major demons who accept bribes (Asmodeus, etc)? --[[User:A1\|A1]] ([[User talk:A1\|talk]]) 03:13, 25 November 2024 (UTC)
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		+	:They don't generate randomly, only at level creation if specified in some way. Even with those accounted for, that's far fewer lawful monsters compared to non-lawful ones in Gehennom. --[[User:Umbire the Phantom\|Umbire the Phantom]] ([[User talk:Umbire the Phantom\|talk]]) 04:15, 25 November 2024 (UTC)

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	:Ack. --[[User:Umbire the Phantom\|Umbire the Phantom]] ([[User talk:Umbire the Phantom\|talk]]) 16:40, 5 February 2024 (UTC)		:Ack. --[[User:Umbire the Phantom\|Umbire the Phantom]] ([[User talk:Umbire the Phantom\|talk]]) 16:40, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
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		+	==Lawful monsters in Gehennemon==
		+	The text states that lawful monsters don't generate in Gehennemon, but what about the lawful major demons who accept bribes (Asmodeus, etc)? --[[User:A1\|A1]] ([[User talk:A1\|talk]]) 03:13, 25 November 2024 (UTC)

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 :Yes. the "Evade you grip" check occurs when you touch it. Even if you were neutral, you could go get an hooa or perma convert, come back, and then pick it up. Btw, the channel #nethack on the freenode irc network is a faster place to get questions answered normally. It's faster, unless someone happens to be watching the wiki change feed in #nethackwiki. That or the mailing list rec.games.roguelikes.nethack [[User:Blackcustard|Blackcustard]] 20:51, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
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 The gemstone's +3 damage bonus only applies to slashing or piercing weapons, so it doesn't apply to the Sceptre's damage.--[[User:Hackemslashem|Hackemslashem]] ([[User talk:Hackemslashem|talk]]) 12:10, 5 February 2024 (UTC)hackemslashem
 :Ack. --[[User:Umbire the Phantom|Umbire the Phantom]] ([[User talk:Umbire the Phantom|talk]]) 16:40, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

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	=== EvilHack's Sceptre ===		=== EvilHack's Sceptre ===
	The gemstone's +3 damage bonus only applies to slashing or piercing weapons, so it doesn't apply to the Sceptre's damage.--[[User:Hackemslashem\|Hackemslashem]] ([[User talk:Hackemslashem\|talk]]) 12:10, 5 February 2024 (UTC)hackemslashem		The gemstone's +3 damage bonus only applies to slashing or piercing weapons, so it doesn't apply to the Sceptre's damage.--[[User:Hackemslashem\|Hackemslashem]] ([[User talk:Hackemslashem\|talk]]) 12:10, 5 February 2024 (UTC)hackemslashem
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		+	:Ack. --[[User:Umbire the Phantom\|Umbire the Phantom]] ([[User talk:Umbire the Phantom\|talk]]) 16:40, 5 February 2024 (UTC)

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	I just artiwished this from an early /oW, and it evaded my grasp (likely because I had lowered alignment from killing 2 dwarves.) If I raise my alignment and come back, could I pick it up without it evading me? Yes, I am lawful. [[Special:Contributions/76.252.202.148\|76.252.202.148]] 20:47, 17 July 2011 (UTC)		I just artiwished this from an early /oW, and it evaded my grasp (likely because I had lowered alignment from killing 2 dwarves.) If I raise my alignment and come back, could I pick it up without it evading me? Yes, I am lawful. [[Special:Contributions/76.252.202.148\|76.252.202.148]] 20:47, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
	:Yes. the "Evade you grip" check occurs when you touch it. Even if you were neutral, you could go get an hooa or perma convert, come back, and then pick it up. Btw, the channel #nethack on the freenode irc network is a faster place to get questions answered normally. It's faster, unless someone happens to be watching the wiki change feed in #nethackwiki. That or the mailing list rec.games.roguelikes.nethack [[User:Blackcustard\|Blackcustard]] 20:51, 17 July 2011 (UTC)		:Yes. the "Evade you grip" check occurs when you touch it. Even if you were neutral, you could go get an hooa or perma convert, come back, and then pick it up. Btw, the channel #nethack on the freenode irc network is a faster place to get questions answered normally. It's faster, unless someone happens to be watching the wiki change feed in #nethackwiki. That or the mailing list rec.games.roguelikes.nethack [[User:Blackcustard\|Blackcustard]] 20:51, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
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		+	=== EvilHack's Sceptre ===
		+	The gemstone's +3 damage bonus only applies to slashing or piercing weapons, so it doesn't apply to the Sceptre's damage.--[[User:Hackemslashem\|Hackemslashem]] ([[User talk:Hackemslashem\|talk]]) 12:10, 5 February 2024 (UTC)hackemslashem

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	I just artiwished this from an early /oW, and it evaded my grasp (likely because I had lowered alignment from killing 2 dwarves.) If I raise my alignment and come back, could I pick it up without it evading me? Yes, I am lawful. [[Special:Contributions/76.252.202.148\|76.252.202.148]] 20:47, 17 July 2011 (UTC)		I just artiwished this from an early /oW, and it evaded my grasp (likely because I had lowered alignment from killing 2 dwarves.) If I raise my alignment and come back, could I pick it up without it evading me? Yes, I am lawful. [[Special:Contributions/76.252.202.148\|76.252.202.148]] 20:47, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
		+	:Yes. the "Evade you grip" check occurs when you touch it. Even if you were neutral, you could go get an hooa or perma convert, come back, and then pick it up. Btw, the channel #nethack on the freenode irc network is a faster place to get questions answered normally. It's faster, unless someone happens to be watching the wiki change feed in #nethackwiki. That or the mailing list rec.games.roguelikes.nethack [[User:Blackcustard\|Blackcustard]] 20:51, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

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	:Dropping the Sceptre, or putting in in a container, or having it stolen, turns off the invoked conflict. It stays off even when you pick it up again, although you can turn it back on when it's no longer tired. The Orb of Detection and Heart of Ahriman work the same way. --[[User:Darth l33t\|Darth l33t]] 18:56, November 9, 2010 (UTC)		:Dropping the Sceptre, or putting in in a container, or having it stolen, turns off the invoked conflict. It stays off even when you pick it up again, although you can turn it back on when it's no longer tired. The Orb of Detection and Heart of Ahriman work the same way. --[[User:Darth l33t\|Darth l33t]] 18:56, November 9, 2010 (UTC)
	::thanks. So you would pretty much never want to waste an invoke to turn conflict off? (except in situtions where you don't want to risk losing MR for even one turn) [[Special:Contributions/131.118.34.73\|131.118.34.73]] 21:26, November 13, 2010 (UTC)		::thanks. So you would pretty much never want to waste an invoke to turn conflict off? (except in situtions where you don't want to risk losing MR for even one turn) [[Special:Contributions/131.118.34.73\|131.118.34.73]] 21:26, November 13, 2010 (UTC)
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		+	== Wish ==
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		+	I just artiwished this from an early /oW, and it evaded my grasp (likely because I had lowered alignment from killing 2 dwarves.) If I raise my alignment and come back, could I pick it up without it evading me? Yes, I am lawful. [[Special:Contributions/76.252.202.148\|76.252.202.148]] 20:47, 17 July 2011 (UTC)