Talk:Valkyrie - Revision history

Scorchgeek: /* Restructuring */ new section

2012-12-02T04:18:44Z

Restructuring: new section

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	I was hoping it would redirect to a page that explains what lord to other monsters means, or at least a directory of monster lords [[Special:Contributions/24.64.116.157\|24.64.116.157]] 04:07, July 24, 2010 (UTC)		I was hoping it would redirect to a page that explains what lord to other monsters means, or at least a directory of monster lords [[Special:Contributions/24.64.116.157\|24.64.116.157]] 04:07, July 24, 2010 (UTC)
	: "Lord" can be a Valkyrie rank name (for a level 30 sex-changed Valk), which is presumably the reason for the redirect. But I'd like to see an explanation of "Overlord to its kind" too. Maybe I'll start a stub page for it under "overlord," in the hopes that someone will explain what is going on. --[[Special:Contributions/65.183.153.101\|65.183.153.101]] 12:10, July 24, 2010 (UTC)		: "Lord" can be a Valkyrie rank name (for a level 30 sex-changed Valk), which is presumably the reason for the redirect. But I'd like to see an explanation of "Overlord to its kind" too. Maybe I'll start a stub page for it under "overlord," in the hopes that someone will explain what is going on. --[[Special:Contributions/65.183.153.101\|65.183.153.101]] 12:10, July 24, 2010 (UTC)

			== Restructuring ==

			I added a bunch of stuff to the strategy section and split it into early, middle, and late game. Please post here if you have any thoughts on the change.
			[[User:Scorchgeek\|Scorchgeek]] ([[User talk:Scorchgeek\|talk]]) 04:18, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

65.183.153.101: /* Why does Lord redirect here? */

2010-07-24T12:10:08Z

Why does Lord redirect here?

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	I was hoping it would redirect to a page that explains what lord to other monsters means, or at least a directory of monster lords [[Special:Contributions/24.64.116.157\|24.64.116.157]] 04:07, July 24, 2010 (UTC)		I was hoping it would redirect to a page that explains what lord to other monsters means, or at least a directory of monster lords [[Special:Contributions/24.64.116.157\|24.64.116.157]] 04:07, July 24, 2010 (UTC)
			: "Lord" can be a Valkyrie rank name (for a level 30 sex-changed Valk), which is presumably the reason for the redirect. But I'd like to see an explanation of "Overlord to its kind" too. Maybe I'll start a stub page for it under "overlord," in the hopes that someone will explain what is going on. --[[Special:Contributions/65.183.153.101\|65.183.153.101]] 12:10, July 24, 2010 (UTC)

24.64.116.157: /* Why does Lord redirect here? */ new section

2010-07-24T04:07:05Z

Why does Lord redirect here?: new section

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	I added a few items to the strategy section. It seems to me that Mjollnir gets a lot of stick from the original author(s), and I wanted to tone that down a bit. I've ascended two Valkyries armed with Excallibur for most jobs and Mjollnir for when you want that little extra '''something'''. It may not be absolutely optimal play, but it's adequate, simple and straightforward--like the Valkyrie herself. Mjollnir serves a relative novice (like me) very well.--[[User:158.111.4.27\|158.111.4.27]] 17:48, 25 January 2008 (UTC) Hmm. Got signed out somehow.--[[User:Ckbryant\|Ckbryant]] 18:09, 25 January 2008 (UTC)		I added a few items to the strategy section. It seems to me that Mjollnir gets a lot of stick from the original author(s), and I wanted to tone that down a bit. I've ascended two Valkyries armed with Excallibur for most jobs and Mjollnir for when you want that little extra '''something'''. It may not be absolutely optimal play, but it's adequate, simple and straightforward--like the Valkyrie herself. Mjollnir serves a relative novice (like me) very well.--[[User:158.111.4.27\|158.111.4.27]] 17:48, 25 January 2008 (UTC) Hmm. Got signed out somehow.--[[User:Ckbryant\|Ckbryant]] 18:09, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

			== Why does Lord redirect here? ==

			I was hoping it would redirect to a page that explains what lord to other monsters means, or at least a directory of monster lords [[Special:Contributions/24.64.116.157\|24.64.116.157]] 04:07, July 24, 2010 (UTC)

Ckbryant: /* Strategy expansion */

2008-01-25T18:09:12Z

Strategy expansion

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	== Strategy expansion ==		== Strategy expansion ==

	I added a few items to the strategy section. It seems to me that Mjollnir gets a lot of stick from the original author(s), and I wanted to tone that down a bit. I've ascended two Valkyries armed with Excallibur for most jobs and Mjollnir for when you want that little extra '''something'''. It may not be absolutely optimal play, but it's adequate, simple and straightforward--like the Valkyrie herself. Mjollnir serves a relative novice (like me) very well.--[[User:158.111.4.27\|158.111.4.27]] 17:48, 25 January 2008 (UTC)		I added a few items to the strategy section. It seems to me that Mjollnir gets a lot of stick from the original author(s), and I wanted to tone that down a bit. I've ascended two Valkyries armed with Excallibur for most jobs and Mjollnir for when you want that little extra '''something'''. It may not be absolutely optimal play, but it's adequate, simple and straightforward--like the Valkyrie herself. Mjollnir serves a relative novice (like me) very well.--[[User:158.111.4.27\|158.111.4.27]] 17:48, 25 January 2008 (UTC) Hmm. Got signed out somehow.--[[User:Ckbryant\|Ckbryant]] 18:09, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

158.111.4.27: /* Strategy expansion */ new section

2008-01-25T17:48:35Z

Strategy expansion: new section

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	:Correction: [[u_init.c#ini_inv]] automatically sets cursed items to uncursed, so you won't start with cursed gear. -- [[User:Killian\|Killian]] 23:11, 17 October 2006 (UTC)		:Correction: [[u_init.c#ini_inv]] automatically sets cursed items to uncursed, so you won't start with cursed gear. -- [[User:Killian\|Killian]] 23:11, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

			== Strategy expansion ==

			I added a few items to the strategy section. It seems to me that Mjollnir gets a lot of stick from the original author(s), and I wanted to tone that down a bit. I've ascended two Valkyries armed with Excallibur for most jobs and Mjollnir for when you want that little extra '''something'''. It may not be absolutely optimal play, but it's adequate, simple and straightforward--like the Valkyrie herself. Mjollnir serves a relative novice (like me) very well.--[[User:158.111.4.27\|158.111.4.27]] 17:48, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

Killian: correction: you won't start with randomly-cursed gear

2006-10-17T23:11:05Z

correction: you won't start with randomly-cursed gear

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	The sword, dagger and shield have <code>UNDEF_BLESS</code>, so their [[BUC]] should be randomly determined, as though the item had been randomly placed. Check [[mkobj.c#mksobj]] if you want to figure out the exact probabilities. -- [[User:Killian\|Killian]] 23:29, 16 October 2006 (UTC)		The sword, dagger and shield have <code>UNDEF_BLESS</code>, so their [[BUC]] should be randomly determined, as though the item had been randomly placed. Check [[mkobj.c#mksobj]] if you want to figure out the exact probabilities. -- [[User:Killian\|Killian]] 23:29, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

			:Correction: [[u_init.c#ini_inv]] automatically sets cursed items to uncursed, so you won't start with cursed gear. -- [[User:Killian\|Killian]] 23:11, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

Killian: use the source, Luke!

2006-10-16T23:29:08Z

use the source, Luke!

New page

There's no need to sample a role's starting equipment when you can just check in [[u_init.c]] to find what the actual starting equipment is. It happens to be the following: ([[u_init.c#line153]], [[u_init.c#line719]])

* a +1 [[long sword]]
* a +0 [[dagger]]
* a +3 [[small shield]]
* an uncursed [[food ration]]
* an uncursed [[oil lamp]] (1/6 chance)

The sword, dagger and shield have <code>UNDEF_BLESS</code>, so their [[BUC]] should be randomly determined, as though the item had been randomly placed. Check [[mkobj.c#mksobj]] if you want to figure out the exact probabilities. -- [[User:Killian|Killian]] 23:29, 16 October 2006 (UTC)