Talk:Vortex - Revision history

Phol ende wodan: /* shock/cold/fire damages to your inventory */ reply, plan for new info

2018-11-15T14:25:59Z

‎shock/cold/fire damages to your inventory: reply, plan for new info

HalNovek: /* shock/cold/fire damages to your inventory */

2018-11-15T14:17:05Z

‎shock/cold/fire damages to your inventory

HalNovek: /* shock/cold/fire damages to your inventory */ new section

2018-11-15T14:15:39Z

‎shock/cold/fire damages to your inventory: new section

Bluescreenofdeath at 06:21, 2 May 2017

2017-05-02T06:21:03Z

Hoanwan: /* Vortex reincarnation */ Add a word for clarity.

2016-11-15T20:33:51Z

‎Vortex reincarnation: Add a word for clarity.

Hoanwan: /* Vortex reincarnation */ new section

2016-11-15T20:32:49Z

‎Vortex reincarnation: new section

68.204.59.230 at 20:51, 26 August 2012

2012-08-26T20:51:17Z

Tjr: tame engulfer

2011-09-14T15:11:02Z

tame engulfer

Qazmlpok: /* a lack of patience spoils testing of a great idea */

2011-09-14T14:37:18Z

‎a lack of patience spoils testing of a great idea

194.116.198.179: /* a lack of patience spoils testing of a great idea */ ho hum

2011-09-14T11:49:17Z

‎a lack of patience spoils testing of a great idea: ho hum

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		+	: Yes. Since this is a rule which applies to all engulfers, I'm not sure what the best way of describing it is on the wiki. Probably, we should update the Engulfer page to note the general case of the rule, and update each individual engulfer's page to make note of the fact that they can touch/claw you now. --[[User:Phol ende wodan\|Phol ende wodan]] ([[User talk:Phol ende wodan\|talk]]) 14:25, 15 November 2018 (UTC)

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 Thanks to several messages written in a webchat by aosdict (TNNT 2018 - hardfought.org), I have learnt that since v. 3.6.1 when a monster with an engulfing attack expel you, it has to wait between 0 and 2 turns before being able to engulf you again. During this time its engulfing attack will be replaced by a (weaker) "touch" attack that deals the same kind of elemental damage as before, but with the difference that "touch" attacks could also affect your inventory.
-So in the worst case scenario, for up to 2 turns after having been engulfed and expelled by a steam/ice/fire/steam vortex, items in your inventory can be subjected to shock/cold/fire/fire damages respectively.
+So in the worst case scenario, for up to 2 turns after having been engulfed and expelled by a energy/ice/fire/steam vortex, items in your inventory can be subjected to shock/cold/fire/fire damages respectively.
-This means that a steam vortex could destroy wand and rings, an ice vortex potions, etc...
+This means that a energy vortex could destroy wand and rings, an ice vortex potions, etc...
 Source (thanks to aosdict): https://github.com/nethack/nethack/commit/bc8e6137192865e18687f0e2e580d0881e2197ab
 [[User:HalNovek|HalNovek]] ([[User talk:HalNovek|talk]]) 14:15, 15 November 2018 (UTC)

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	In mondata.h, all vortices are classified as "nonliving", which should make them immune to death rays. Might be useful information for players who try to escape from an early-game vortex by zapping it with a wand of death. --[[User:Bluescreenofdeath\|Bluescreenofdeath]] ([[User talk:Bluescreenofdeath\|talk]]) 06:21, 2 May 2017 (UTC)		In mondata.h, all vortices are classified as "nonliving", which should make them immune to death rays. Might be useful information for players who try to escape from an early-game vortex by zapping it with a wand of death. --[[User:Bluescreenofdeath\|Bluescreenofdeath]] ([[User talk:Bluescreenofdeath\|talk]]) 06:21, 2 May 2017 (UTC)
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		+	== shock/cold/fire damages to your inventory ==
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		+	Thanks to several messages written in a webchat by aosdict (TNNT 2018 - hardfought.org), I have learnt that since v. 3.6.1 when a monster with an engulfing attack expel you, it has to wait between 0 and 2 turns before being able to engulf you again. During this time its engulfing attack will be replaced by a (weaker) "touch" attack that deals the same kind of elemental damage as before, but with the difference that "touch" attacks could also affect your inventory.
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		+	So in the worst case scenario, for up to 2 turns after having been engulfed and expelled by a steam/ice/fire/steam vortex, items in your inventory can be subjected to shock/cold/fire/fire damages respectively.
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		+	This means that a steam vortex could destroy wand and rings, an ice vortex potions, etc...
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		+	Source (thanks to aosdict): https://github.com/nethack/nethack/commit/bc8e6137192865e18687f0e2e580d0881e2197ab
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		+	[[User:HalNovek\|HalNovek]] ([[User talk:HalNovek\|talk]]) 14:15, 15 November 2018 (UTC)

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	It is quite funny to see, anyway. [[User:Hoanwan\|Hoanwan]] ([[User talk:Hoanwan\|talk]]) 20:32, 15 November 2016 (UTC)		It is quite funny to see, anyway. [[User:Hoanwan\|Hoanwan]] ([[User talk:Hoanwan\|talk]]) 20:32, 15 November 2016 (UTC)
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		+	== Death rays ==
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		+	In mondata.h, all vortices are classified as "nonliving", which should make them immune to death rays. Might be useful information for players who try to escape from an early-game vortex by zapping it with a wand of death. --[[User:Bluescreenofdeath\|Bluescreenofdeath]] ([[User talk:Bluescreenofdeath\|talk]]) 06:21, 2 May 2017 (UTC)

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 == Vortex reincarnation ==
-I noticed something odd with vortices. My character was standing on one side of a door in Vlad's tower, with a vampire on the other side. The vampire turned into a vortex and flowed under the door, promptly died, and returned to its room as a vampire lord. It died as a vortex a few more times before eventually turning up on one of the squares next to my character. There are quite a few vampires and vampire lords generated in the tower, so I got quite a few more opportunities to see the same thing.
+I noticed something odd with steam vortices. My character was standing on one side of a door in Vlad's tower, with a vampire on the other side. The vampire turned into a vortex and flowed under the door, promptly died, and returned to its room as a vampire lord. It died as a vortex a few more times before eventually turning up on one of the squares next to my character. There are quite a few vampires and vampire lords generated in the tower, so I got quite a few more opportunities to see the same thing.
 From what I can tell of enexto(), the vampire lord would have been more likely to appear next to me than behind the door, so I don't know why they didn't come out more quickly.
 It is quite funny to see, anyway. [[User:Hoanwan|Hoanwan]] ([[User talk:Hoanwan|talk]]) 20:32, 15 November 2016 (UTC)

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	==Fire Vortex Pet==		==Fire Vortex Pet==
	I polymorphed my pet into a fire vortex, why do corpses still taste bad, they are cooked!		I polymorphed my pet into a fire vortex, why do corpses still taste bad, they are cooked!
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		+	== Vortex reincarnation ==
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		+	I noticed something odd with vortices. My character was standing on one side of a door in Vlad's tower, with a vampire on the other side. The vampire turned into a vortex and flowed under the door, promptly died, and returned to its room as a vampire lord. It died as a vortex a few more times before eventually turning up on one of the squares next to my character. There are quite a few vampires and vampire lords generated in the tower, so I got quite a few more opportunities to see the same thing.
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		+	From what I can tell of enexto(), the vampire lord would have been more likely to appear next to me than behind the door, so I don't know why they didn't come out more quickly.
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		+	It is quite funny to see, anyway. [[User:Hoanwan\|Hoanwan]] ([[User talk:Hoanwan\|talk]]) 20:32, 15 November 2016 (UTC)

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	::You can make also a tame engulfer swallow you under conflict, then remove the ring and toot a magic whistle. --[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] 15:11, 14 September 2011 (UTC)		::You can make also a tame engulfer swallow you under conflict, then remove the ring and toot a magic whistle. --[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] 15:11, 14 September 2011 (UTC)
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		+	==Fire Vortex Pet==
		+	I polymorphed my pet into a fire vortex, why do corpses still taste bad, they are cooked!

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	*given the multitude of non-air elemental vortices on the plane of air, with the right resistance, being engulfed and allowing the steam vortex to transport you harmlessly across the level would seem a brilliant idea. i got bored after about a hundred turns, though, since the damn thing didn't move at all. should i have been more patient? --[[Special:Contributions/194.116.198.179\|194.116.198.179]] 11:49, 14 September 2011 (UTC)		*given the multitude of non-air elemental vortices on the plane of air, with the right resistance, being engulfed and allowing the steam vortex to transport you harmlessly across the level would seem a brilliant idea. i got bored after about a hundred turns, though, since the damn thing didn't move at all. should i have been more patient? --[[Special:Contributions/194.116.198.179\|194.116.198.179]] 11:49, 14 September 2011 (UTC)
	:Engulfers don't move unless you are generating conflict. And when conflicted they move randomly, so you'd have no way to edge it towards the portal. It is, however, useful to jump inside a harmless engulfer to give yourself a chance to heal after fighting some of the air elementals. -- [[User:Qazmlpok\|Qazmlpok]] 14:37, 14 September 2011 (UTC)		:Engulfers don't move unless you are generating conflict. And when conflicted they move randomly, so you'd have no way to edge it towards the portal. It is, however, useful to jump inside a harmless engulfer to give yourself a chance to heal after fighting some of the air elementals. -- [[User:Qazmlpok\|Qazmlpok]] 14:37, 14 September 2011 (UTC)
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		+	::You can make also a tame engulfer swallow you under conflict, then remove the ring and toot a magic whistle. --[[User:Tjr\|Tjr]] 15:11, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

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	==a lack of patience spoils testing of a great idea==		==a lack of patience spoils testing of a great idea==
	*given the multitude of non-air elemental vortices on the plane of air, with the right resistance, being engulfed and allowing the steam vortex to transport you harmlessly across the level would seem a brilliant idea. i got bored after about a hundred turns, though, since the damn thing didn't move at all. should i have been more patient? --[[Special:Contributions/194.116.198.179\|194.116.198.179]] 11:49, 14 September 2011 (UTC)		*given the multitude of non-air elemental vortices on the plane of air, with the right resistance, being engulfed and allowing the steam vortex to transport you harmlessly across the level would seem a brilliant idea. i got bored after about a hundred turns, though, since the damn thing didn't move at all. should i have been more patient? --[[Special:Contributions/194.116.198.179\|194.116.198.179]] 11:49, 14 September 2011 (UTC)
		+	:Engulfers don't move unless you are generating conflict. And when conflicted they move randomly, so you'd have no way to edge it towards the portal. It is, however, useful to jump inside a harmless engulfer to give yourself a chance to heal after fighting some of the air elementals. -- [[User:Qazmlpok\|Qazmlpok]] 14:37, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

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	fire vortex put out my magic lamp...{{unsigned\|76.19.155.125}}		fire vortex put out my magic lamp...{{unsigned\|76.19.155.125}}
	:Yes, but not permanently. <small>[[Troll\|HIBT]]?</small>--[[User:Ray Chason\|Ray Chason]] 16:35, 1 January 2008 (UTC)		:Yes, but not permanently. <small>[[Troll\|HIBT]]?</small>--[[User:Ray Chason\|Ray Chason]] 16:35, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
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		+	==a lack of patience spoils testing of a great idea==
		+	*given the multitude of non-air elemental vortices on the plane of air, with the right resistance, being engulfed and allowing the steam vortex to transport you harmlessly across the level would seem a brilliant idea. i got bored after about a hundred turns, though, since the damn thing didn't move at all. should i have been more patient? --[[Special:Contributions/194.116.198.179\|194.116.198.179]] 11:49, 14 September 2011 (UTC)