Tameness - Revision history

Tomsod: /* Strategy */ deliberate abuse

2025-12-30T16:09:01Z

‎Strategy: deliberate abuse

Umbire the Phantom: potholes

2025-04-11T09:55:58Z

potholes

NetSysFire: /* Slash'EM Extended */ - remove as part of deslexifying the wiki

2022-08-23T15:03:43Z

‎Slash'EM Extended: - remove as part of deslexifying the wiki

NetSysFire: /* Abuse */ - typo

2022-08-23T15:03:19Z

‎Abuse: - typo

Netzhack: /* See also */ Dead link replaced with live mirror

2022-05-03T20:02:33Z

‎See also: Dead link replaced with live mirror

Cathartes: /* Decreasing tameness */ delete point about riding a steed into a trap. It's too vague and I was unable to find evidence that it actually decreases tameness.

2022-04-02T01:19:57Z

‎Decreasing tameness: delete point about riding a steed into a trap. It's too vague and I was unable to find evidence that it actually decreases tameness.

Actual-nh: /* Initial tameness */ Grammar/style

2021-05-04T00:10:54Z

‎Initial tameness: Grammar/style

Ardub23 at 06:06, 23 August 2019

2019-08-23T06:06:03Z

EasterlyIrk: that's abuse >_>

2017-10-11T04:31:56Z

that's abuse >_>

Ilmari Karonen: /* Decreasing tameness */ remove seemingly mistaken "+1"; according to the cited reference, the condition for peaceful is "mtmp->mtame > rn2(wilder)"

2017-01-23T18:39:35Z

‎Decreasing tameness: remove seemingly mistaken "+1"; according to the cited reference, the condition for peaceful is "mtmp->mtame > rn2(wilder)"

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 == Strategy ==
 In most cases, as long as you stay on the same level as your pet, and keep it from going hungry, your pet will stay loyal to you. Consider #[[pray]]ing if both you and your pet are hungry; pets don't really have that option. If you fall down a hole or step on a level teleport and leave your pet behind, try to go back for it as soon as you can. If your pet gets lost in such a manner, it may be harder to figure out where the pet ended up. [[Telepathy]] or a [[magic whistle]] might help you quickly check the nearby floors. If you favor exotic pets, have a spare source of taming so you can recover from unfortunate separating circumstances. If you don't manage to find your old pet, you can always try to charm a new one. Laying eggs as a [[gargoyle]] or [[cockatrice]] can score you a very loyal pet, and laying eggs as a dragon gets you a pretty strong one.
 ==See also==

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 * 20 = fiercely loyal: Your pet can be level-separated for a very long time, and will even put up with occasional abuse.
-You can #[[chat]] with [[domestic animal|cats, dogs, and horses]] to get a general indication of how tame they are, although other factors such as [[hunger]], [[confusion]], fright, or being caught in a [[trap]] can make this difficult. In general, [[dog]]s will whine, [[cat]]s will yowl, and [[horse]]s will neigh if they are not content (tameness below 5, or possibly just hungry). Get them some [[food]] as soon as possible to see if that helps. A [[stethoscope]] can help you sort out some of the state conditions and works on any species, but does not diagnose the level of tameness.
+You can #[[chat]] with [[domestic animal|cats, dogs, and horses]] to get a general indication of how tame they are, although other factors such as [[nutrition]] status, [[confusion]], fright, or being caught in a [[trap]] can make this difficult. In general, [[dog]]s will whine, [[cat]]s will yowl, and [[horse]]s will neigh if they are not content (tameness below 5, or possibly just hungry). Get them some [[food]] as soon as possible to see if that helps. A [[stethoscope]] can help you sort out some of the state conditions and works on any species, but does not diagnose the level of tameness.
 == Initial tameness ==
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 ** Dragon eggs and eggs outside your main [[inventory]] will only hatch with tameness 5.
 * If a pet divides (such as [[pudding]]s and [[gremlin]]s), only the original retains its tameness and any further stats.{{refsrc|makemon.c|742}}{{refsrc|makemon.c|765}} The clone is a freshly tamed monster. It will have the same name, but appear at a nearby spot. (Attacking it can untame a pudding before it splits. Some clones caused by the player are hostile.)
-* Pets that are [[amulet of life saving|life-saved]] or [[revive]]d from the dead keep their tameness from before, ''if'' they come back tame. There's always a chance they will be revived hostile.
+* Pets that are [[amulet of life saving|life-saved]] or [[revived]] from the dead keep their tameness from before, ''if'' they come back tame. There's always a chance they will be revived hostile.
 ** Past transgressions ([[#Abuse|abuse]]) are remembered. Abused pets might be wild or feral. If you killed the pet, it will be understandably mad about that.
 * Pets from a former adventurer's [[bones]] file will be hostile. Re-tame them or kill them.

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 == Strategy ==
 In most cases, as long as you stay on the same level as your pet, and keep it from going hungry, your pet will stay loyal to you. Consider #[[pray]]ing if both you and your pet are hungry; pets don't really have that option. If you fall down a hole or step on a level teleport and leave your pet behind, try to go back for it as soon as you can. If your pet gets lost in such a manner, it may be harder to figure out where the pet ended up. [[Telepathy]] or a [[magic whistle]] might help you quickly check the nearby floors. If you favor exotic pets, have a spare source of taming so you can recover from unfortunate separating circumstances. If you don't manage to find your old pet, you can always try to charm a new one. Laying eggs as a [[gargoyle]] or [[cockatrice]] can score you a very loyal pet, and laying eggs as a dragon gets you a pretty strong one.
 ==See also==

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 Both counters are reset to zero when (re)tamed,<ref>{{function|dog.c|tamedog}}, {{function|dog.c|initedog}}</ref> revived, unstoned, or life-saved.<ref>{{function|zap.c|Montraits}} keeps the abuse counter, but {{function|dog.c|wary_dog}} later resets them.</ref> A [[pudding]] freshly split off another pet is reset to zero abuse and five tameness.{{refsrc|makemon.c|765}}
-The abuse counter is incremented each time you score an attack on pet or displace it into a damaging trap. This incudes "attacking" with healing potions. Polymorph, teleport, and levelport traps are fine, as they don't damage the pet. Strangely, zapping a spell or wand at your pet is not considered abuse.
+The abuse counter is incremented each time you score an attack on pet or displace it into a damaging trap. This includes "attacking" with healing potions. Polymorph, teleport, and levelport traps are fine, as they don't damage the pet. Strangely, zapping a spell or wand at your pet is not considered abuse.
 == Strategy ==

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 ==See also==
-*Eva Myers' excellent spoiler for [http://www.statslab.cam.ac.uk/~eva/nethack/pets2.html Keeping and Training Pets in NetHack and SLASH'EM]
+*Eva Myers' excellent spoiler for [https://alt.org/nethack/mirror/www.statslab.cam.ac.uk/%257Eeva/nethack/pets2.html Keeping and Training Pets in NetHack and SLASH'EM]
 *[[Apport]]

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 * &minus;1 tameness every time you use #[[ride]] to try to mount a [[saddle]]d pet, unless you are a [[knight]]. Tameness also influences your chance of success.
 ** &minus;1 tameness for [[kick]]ing or [[whip]]ping your mount (although this can make it [[gallop|move faster]]).
-** It can be dangerous to try to ride a pet with very low tameness, feed it first if you can.
+** It can be dangerous to try to ride a pet with very low tameness. Feed it first if you can.
 ** A non-eating pet will, in this situation, become peaceful if its tameness reaches zero.

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 Exceptions:
-* Hatchlings of eggs [[Oviparous|laid by you]] have a tameness to 20.{{refsrc|timeout.c|449}}
+* Hatchlings of eggs [[Oviparous|laid by you]] have a tameness of 20.{{refsrc|timeout.c|449}}
 ** Dragon eggs and eggs outside your main [[inventory]] will only hatch with tameness 5.
 * If a pet divides (such as [[pudding]]s and [[gremlin]]s), only the original retains its tameness and any further stats.{{refsrc|makemon.c|742}}{{refsrc|makemon.c|765}} The clone is a freshly tamed monster. It will have the same name, but appear at a nearby spot. (Attacking it can untame a pudding before it splits. Some clones caused by the player are hostile.)

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 == Initial tameness ==
-The tameness of new pets depends on their species, not on the method of taming. [[Domestic animal]]s and your [[Astral Plane]] guardian angel start with a tameness of 10, all others with 5.{{refsrc|dog.c|16}}{{refsrc|dog.c|1403}}
+The tameness of new pets depends on their species, not on the method of taming. [[Domestic animal]]s and your [[Astral Plane]] guardian angel start with a tameness of 10; all others start with 5.{{refsrc|dog.c|16}}{{refsrc|dog.c|1403}}
 Exceptions:
-* Hatchlings of eggs [[Oviparous|laid by you]] will be upgraded to 20.{{refsrc|timeout.c|449}}
+* Hatchlings of eggs [[Oviparous|laid by you]] have a tameness to 20.{{refsrc|timeout.c|449}}
 ** Dragon eggs and eggs outside your main [[inventory]] will only hatch with tameness 5.
-* If a pet divides ([[pudding]]s, [[gremlin]]s, ...), only the original retains its tameness and any further stats.{{refsrc|makemon.c|742}}{{refsrc|makemon.c|765}} The clone is a freshly tamed monster. It will have the same name, but appear at a nearby spot. (Attacking it can untame a pudding before it splits. Some clones caused by the player are hostile.)
+* If a pet divides (such as [[pudding]]s and [[gremlin]]s), only the original retains its tameness and any further stats.{{refsrc|makemon.c|742}}{{refsrc|makemon.c|765}} The clone is a freshly tamed monster. It will have the same name, but appear at a nearby spot. (Attacking it can untame a pudding before it splits. Some clones caused by the player are hostile.)
-* Pets that are [[amulet of life saving|lifesaved]] or [[revive]]d from the dead keep their tameness from before, ''if'' they come back tame. There's always a chance they will be revived hostile.
+* Pets that are [[amulet of life saving|life-saved]] or [[revive]]d from the dead keep their tameness from before, ''if'' they come back tame. There's always a chance they will be revived hostile.
-** [[#Abuse|Past transgressions (abuse)]] are remembered. Abused pets might be wild or feral. If you killed the pet, it will be understandably mad about that.
+** Past transgressions ([[#Abuse|abuse]]) are remembered. Abused pets might be wild or feral. If you killed the pet, it will be understandably mad about that.
 * Pets from a former adventurer's [[bones]] file will be hostile. Re-tame them or kill them.
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 ** [[Herbivore]]s can be kept tame by carefully managing your [[comestible]]s.
 ** [[Inediate|Monsters that do not eat]] are difficult to keep tame. Do not abuse them or leave them on other dungeon levels.
-* Reading a [[blessed]] [[Book of the Dead]] will increase tameness of coaligned undead pets by +1 (and can tame nearby undead)
+* Reading the [[blessed]] [[Book of the Dead]] will increase tameness of coaligned undead pets by +1 (and can tame nearby undead).
 == Decreasing tameness ==
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 *** Peaceful-only is a myth. The chance of a hostile outcome is (previous_tameness) / tameness_loss. To guarantee a peaceful ex-pet, you must visit its level within 149 turns after tameness reaches zero.{{refsrc|dog.c|450}}
 ** A pet that would have starved to death in this situation will always go hostile.
-** Throwing food at a former pet will anger it, if it is not a [[domestic animal]].
+** Throwing food at a former pet will anger it, unless it is a [[domestic animal]].
-** In [[Slash'EM Extended]], a pet left on a different level loses a point of tameness for every 1000 turns (rather than 150), and if it was very satiated to begin with, it may not lose any tameness points at all. A blessed [[stethoscope]] can reveal tameness and satiation levels of pets in that variant.
+* If you displace a trapped pet, there is a 1 in [tameness] chance that it will become hostile.{{refsrc|hack.c|1290}}
 * A pet that becomes unleashed by a trap ([[level teleport]], [[trap door]], [[hole]], etc.) loses 1 point of tameness.
-* A pet choked by a cursed [[leash]] may lose 1 point of tameness. This will never reduce tameness below 1. {{refsrc|apply.c|578}}
+* A pet choked by a cursed [[leash]] may lose 1 point of tameness. This will never reduce tameness below 1.{{refsrc|apply.c|578}}
-** The chance of this -1 loss being waived is 1 in [tameness]. So the higher the current tameness, the more likely you lose 1 point.
+** The chance of this &minus;1 loss being waived is 1 in [tameness]. So the higher the current tameness, the more likely you lose 1 point.
 ** Cursed leashes are very bad for keeping pets tame, but a pet will never turn on you solely because of the cursed leash.
 *** Be extra careful around traps if your pet is on a cursed leash, as pushing your pet into a trap can put it over the edge.
 *** Also watch out for [[stun]] or [[confusion]] states; if you accidentally hit your pet, it could be the last straw.
-*** For the love of [[Marduk]], I hope you don't have [[Stormbringer]] wielded if your leash is cursed. (Actually, just don't have it wielded when around pets, period.)
+*** Never wield [[Stormbringer]] if your leash is cursed. (Actually, just don't wield it around pets, period.) [[Cleaver]] merits caution as well.
-* -1 tameness every time you use #[[ride]] to try to mount a [[saddle]]d pet, unless you are a [[knight]]. Tameness also influences your chance of success.
+* &minus;1 tameness every time you use #[[ride]] to try to mount a [[saddle]]d pet, unless you are a [[knight]]. Tameness also influences your chance of success.
-** -1 tameness for [[kick]]ing or [[whip]]ping your mount (although this can make it [[gallop|move faster]]).
+** &minus;1 tameness for [[kick]]ing or [[whip]]ping your mount (although this can make it [[gallop|move faster]]).
 ** It can be dangerous to try to ride a pet with very low tameness, feed it first if you can.
 ** Be wary if your mount gets caught in a trap while you are riding. Pets and traps just do not mix well.
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 Pets additionally have an abuse counter and keep track whether you killed it. [[Revive]]d, unstoned, or life-saved pets will come back non-tame if you killed it or abused it at least three times.<ref>{{function|dog.c|wary_dog}}</ref> There is a one-in-tameness chance it comes back non-tame anyway.
-Both counters are reset to zero when (re)tamed,<ref>{{function|dog.c|tamedog}}, {{function|dog.c|initedog}}</ref> when revived, unstoned or life-saved.<ref>{{function|zap.c|Montraits}} keeps the abuse counter, but {{function|dog.c|wary_dog}} later resets them.</ref> A [[pudding]] freshly split off another pet is reset to zero abuse and five tameness.{{refsrc|makemon.c|765}}
+Both counters are reset to zero when (re)tamed,<ref>{{function|dog.c|tamedog}}, {{function|dog.c|initedog}}</ref> revived, unstoned, or life-saved.<ref>{{function|zap.c|Montraits}} keeps the abuse counter, but {{function|dog.c|wary_dog}} later resets them.</ref> A [[pudding]] freshly split off another pet is reset to zero abuse and five tameness.{{refsrc|makemon.c|765}}
-The abuse counter is incremented each time you score an attack on pet or displace it into a damaging trap. Caution: "attacking" with healing potions counts as abuse. Polymorph, teleport, and levelport traps are fine. Strangely, zapping a spell or wand at your pet is fine.
+The abuse counter is incremented each time you score an attack on pet or displace it into a damaging trap. This incudes "attacking" with healing potions. Polymorph, teleport, and levelport traps are fine, as they don't damage the pet. Strangely, zapping a spell or wand at your pet is not considered abuse.
 == Strategy ==
 In most cases, as long as you stay on the same level as your pet, and keep it from going hungry, your pet will stay loyal to you. Consider #[[pray]]ing if both you and your pet are hungry; pets don't really have that option. If you fall down a hole or step on a level teleport and leave your pet behind, try to go back for it as soon as you can. If your pet gets lost in such a manner, it may be harder to figure out where the pet ended up. [[Telepathy]] or a [[magic whistle]] might help you quickly check the nearby floors. If you favor exotic pets, have a spare source of taming so you can recover from unfortunate separating circumstances. If you don't manage to find your old pet, you can always try to charm a new one. Laying eggs as a [[gargoyle]] or [[cockatrice]] can score you a very loyal pet, and laying eggs as a dragon gets you a pretty strong one.
 ==See also==

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 * A pet left on a different level for at least 75 turns loses 1 tameness, and an additional point every 150 turns thereafter.{{refsrc|dog.c|446}}
 ** A pet reduced to zero this way will either become hostile or peaceful.
-*** Peaceful-only is a myth. The chance of a hostile outcome is (previous_tameness +1) / tameness_loss. To guarantee a peaceful ex-pet, you must visit its level within 149 turns after tameness reaches zero.{{refsrc|dog.c|450}}
+*** Peaceful-only is a myth. The chance of a hostile outcome is (previous_tameness) / tameness_loss. To guarantee a peaceful ex-pet, you must visit its level within 149 turns after tameness reaches zero.{{refsrc|dog.c|450}}
 ** A pet that would have starved to death in this situation will always go hostile.
 ** Throwing food at a former pet will anger it, if it is not a [[domestic animal]].