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Umbire the Phantom: /* Other methods */ tweak

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Phol ende wodan: /* Description */ 3.7: taming an existing pet may increase its tameness

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‎Description: 3.7: taming an existing pet may increase its tameness

Phol ende wodan: /* Messages */ 3.7: also there are messages for taming a peaceful monster

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‎Messages: 3.7: also there are messages for taming a peaceful monster

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Phol ende wodan: 3.7: general purpose messages for taming

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3.7: general purpose messages for taming

Umbire the Phantom: history

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 * A hero that enters the [[Astral Plane]] with an [[alignment record]] of 9 or higher and is not generating [[conflict]] at the time of entrance will be given a tame 'guardian' [[Angel]] [[minion]] by their [[god]]&mdash;the Angel will disappear if they would be affected by conflict at any point afterward.
-{{upcoming|NetHack 3.7.0|Per {{commit|231bd75b7f5ddc3ef0f745a75ea3566cc4055d99|commit 231bd75}}, magic harp taming works the same as the [[read]] non-cursed [[scroll of taming]] and the [[spell of charm monster]], and may increase the tameness of already-tame monsters up to a maximum of 10. The lower the pet's tameness, the more likely it gains a point of tameness, and a blessed scroll of taming or the skilled spell of charm monster will then boost tameness by a further 2 points (still capped at 10).}}
+{{upcoming|NetHack 3.7.0|Per {{commit|231bd75b7f5ddc3ef0f745a75ea3566cc4055d99}}, magic harp taming works the same as the [[read]] non-cursed [[scroll of taming]] and the [[spell of charm monster]], and may increase the tameness of already-tame monsters up to a maximum of 10. The lower the pet's tameness, the more likely it gains a point of tameness, and a blessed scroll of taming or the skilled spell of charm monster will then boost tameness by a further 2 points (still capped at 10).}}
 ==Strategy==

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 * A hero that enters the [[Astral Plane]] with an [[alignment record]] of 9 or higher and is not generating [[conflict]] at the time of entrance will be given a tame 'guardian' [[Angel]] [[minion]] by their [[god]]&mdash;the Angel will disappear if they would be affected by conflict at any point afterward.
-{{upcoming|NetHack 3.7.0|Taming an already-tame monster may increase its tameness, up to a maximum of 10. The lower the pet's tameness, the more likely it gains a point of tameness; then a blessed scroll of taming or the skilled spell of charm monster will boost tameness by a further 2 points (still capped at 10).}}
+{{upcoming|NetHack 3.7.0|Per {{commit|231bd75b7f5ddc3ef0f745a75ea3566cc4055d99|commit 231bd75}}, magic harp taming works the same as the [[read]] non-cursed [[scroll of taming]] and the [[spell of charm monster]], and may increase the tameness of already-tame monsters up to a maximum of 10. The lower the pet's tameness, the more likely it gains a point of tameness, and a blessed scroll of taming or the skilled spell of charm monster will then boost tameness by a further 2 points (still capped at 10).}}
 ==Strategy==

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 {{upcoming|NetHack 3.7.0|These messages are introduced in this version.}}
-{{message|<Foo> seems more amiable.|A taming effect at least pacified, and potentially tamed, a previously hostile monster. Note that not all taming sources produce this message.}}
+{{message|<The monster> seems more amiable.|A taming effect pacified and potentially tamed a previously hostile monster. Note that not all taming sources produce this message.}}
-{{message|<Foo> seems really chill.|As above, but you are [[hallucinating]].}}
+{{message|<The monster> seems really chill.|As above, but you are [[hallucinating]].}}
-{{message|<Foo> seems quite friendly.|A taming effect tamed a monster that was initially peaceful.}}
+{{message|<The monster> seems quite friendly.|A taming effect tamed a monster that was initially peaceful.}}
-{{message|<Foo> seems quite approachable.|As above, but you are hallucinating.}}
+{{message|<The monster> seems quite approachable.|As above, but you are hallucinating.}}
 ==References==

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 * A hero that polymorphs into any [[major demon]] other than a [[balrog]] or [[foocubus]] can [[Demon gating|gate in tame demons]] by attacking in [[melee]] with their [[bare hands]] while not wearing [[gloves]]. Demons gated this way have a {{frac|5|6}} of being the same type as the hero's current form, and a {{frac|6}} chance of being a random demon of the same alignment as the hero.
 * A hero that enters the [[Astral Plane]] with an [[alignment record]] of 9 or higher and is not generating [[conflict]] at the time of entrance will be given a tame 'guardian' [[Angel]] [[minion]] by their [[god]]&mdash;the Angel will disappear if they would be affected by conflict at any point afterward.
 ==Strategy==

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 {{upcoming|NetHack 3.7.0|These messages are introduced in this version.}}
-{{message|<Foo> seems more amiable.|A taming effect at least pacified, and potentially tamed, a monster. Note that not all taming sources produce this message.}}
+{{message|<Foo> seems more amiable.|A taming effect at least pacified, and potentially tamed, a previously hostile monster. Note that not all taming sources produce this message.}}
 {{message|<Foo> seems really chill.|As above, but you are [[hallucinating]].}}
 ==References==

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 ==Strategy==
 Taming is a useful means of obtaining more powerful pets, whether to help fend off nastier monsters or simply make encounters faster, and sources of taming can be used to "escape" being cornered by powerful monsters that have low MR scores, such as [[minotaur]]s and dragons.
 ==History==

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 ===Other methods===
-Tame monsters can also be directly created or given to the hero under the following circumstances:
+Tame monsters can also be created or given to the hero under the following circumstances:
 * [[Quaff]]ing a [[Smoky and milky potions|smoky]] [[potion]] or [[rubbing]] a [[magic lamp]] can summon a [[djinni]], which has a {{frac|5}} chance of being tame if the potion or lamp is uncursed and a {{frac|20}} chance otherwise.{{refsrc|src/apply.c|1484|nethack=3.6.7|comment=<code>dorub</code> function, calls <code>djinni_from_bottle</code>}}{{refsrc|src/potion.c|2321|nethack=3.6.7|comment=<code>djinni_from_bottle</code> function}}
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 * A hero that polymorphs into any [[major demon]] other than a [[balrog]] or [[foocubus]] can [[Demon gating|gate in tame demons]] by attacking in [[melee]] with their [[bare hands]] while not wearing [[gloves]]. Demons gated this way have a {{frac|5|6}} of being the same type as the hero's current form, and a {{frac|6}} chance of being a random demon of the same alignment as the hero.
 * A hero that enters the [[Astral Plane]] with an [[alignment record]] of 9 or higher and is not generating [[conflict]] at the time of entrance will be given a tame 'guardian' [[Angel]] [[minion]] by their [[god]]&mdash;the Angel will disappear if they would be affected by conflict at any point afterward.
 ==References==

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 * [[Major demon]]s cannot be made tame unless the hero is currently in the form of a demon themselves.
-These restrictions are applied at the time that a monster would be made tame, and as such do not apply to pets that [[grow up]] or else are polymorphed into a form that cannot normally be tamed&mdash;in practice, this consists primarily of [[master lich]]es and [[arch-lich]]es, which can be obtained tame by polymorphing a pet or having a pet [[Lich (monster class)|lich]] grow up.
+These restrictions are applied at the time that a monster would be made tame, and as such do not apply to pets that [[grow up]] or else are polymorphed into a form that cannot normally be tamed&mdash;in practice, this consists primarily of [[master lich]]es and [[arch-lich]]es, which can be obtained tame by polymorphing a pet or having a pet [[Lich (monster class)|lich]] grow up. Figurines ignore these restrictions, though many of the monsters that cannot be tamed normally also cannot have figurines of them generated.{{refsrc|src/mkobj.c|952|version=NetHack 3.6.7}}{{refsrc|src/objnam.c|3955|nethack=3.6.7}}
 ===Domestic pets===

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	* Summoning or obtaining them directly, which only occurs in certain circumstances		* Summoning or obtaining them directly, which only occurs in certain circumstances

		+	===Restrictions===
	Many monster types encountered in the dungeon can be made into pets, with several exceptions:		Many monster types encountered in the dungeon can be made into pets, with several exceptions: