The Hand of Vecna (SLASH'EM) - Revision history

Ion frigate: as for EoB

2025-06-09T17:59:41Z

as for EoB

Umbire the Phantom: follow up

2024-05-27T15:19:43Z

follow up

Ion frigate: particularly for chaotics, appeasing angry gods can take a while

2024-05-27T05:53:49Z

particularly for chaotics, appeasing angry gods can take a while

Ion frigate: sacrifice value is an obscure enough concept that i think it's worth expanding a bit

2024-05-27T05:51:07Z

sacrifice value is an obscure enough concept that i think it's worth expanding a bit

Umbire the Phantom: Hack'EM necro

2024-03-06T04:55:10Z

Hack'EM necro

Umbire the Phantom: typo

2024-03-06T04:06:24Z

typo

Umbire the Phantom: /* Description */ cite + correct

2024-03-06T04:02:13Z

‎Description: cite + correct

Umbire the Phantom: last one I swear

2024-03-06T03:28:56Z

last one I swear

Umbire the Phantom: more temp

2024-03-06T03:28:17Z

more temp

Umbire the Phantom: temp + corrections + messages

2024-03-06T03:26:45Z

temp + corrections + messages

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   |cost=700
   |weight=1 or 300, depending on variant
 }}
 {{for|the artifact in [[EvilHack]]|The Hand of Vecna (EvilHack)}}

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 ==Generation==
-The Hand of Vecna is only generated upon killing Vecna in a way that would normally leave a [[corpse]] (i.e. any method minus [[disintegration]] or [[digest]]ing). Since Vecna is always generated in the Chaotic Quest, his Hand cannot be [[wish]]ed for and will always revert to its base item if left in [[bones]].
+The Hand of Vecna is only generated upon killing Vecna in a way that would normally leave a [[corpse]] (i.e. any method minus [[disintegration]] or [[digestion]]). Since Vecna is always generated in the Chaotic Quest, his Hand cannot be [[wish]]ed for and will always revert to its base item if left in [[bones]].
 ==Description==
-While carried, the Hand of Vecna provides [[cold resistance]], [[half physical damage]], and hungerless [[regeneration]]; while wielded, it additionally confers [[drain resistance]]. [[Invoking]] The Hand of Vecna has different effects dependent on your current [[luck]]: if invoked at -10 luck or lower, you take 5-24 damage, and otherwise you generate 4-7 tame non-[[Lich (monster class)|lich]] [[undead]], with a -3 penalty to luck and [[alignment record]] applied regardless of outcome.{{refsrc|artifact.c|1636|version=SLASH'EM 0.0.7E7F2}}{{refsrc|artifact.c|1645|version=SLASH'EM 0.0.7E7F2}}{{refsrc|artifact.c|1667|version=SLASH'EM 0.0.7E7F2}}
+While carried, the Hand of Vecna provides [[cold resistance]], [[half physical damage]], and hungerless [[regeneration]]; while wielded, it additionally confers [[drain resistance]]. [[Invoking]] The Hand of Vecna has different effects dependent on your current [[luck]]: if invoked at -10 luck or lower, the characters takes 5-24 damage, and otherwise 4 to 7 tamed non-[[Lich (monster class)|lich]] [[undead]] monsters are generated, with a -3 penalty to luck and [[alignment record]] applied regardless of outcome.{{refsrc|artifact.c|1636|version=SLASH'EM 0.0.7E7F2}}{{refsrc|artifact.c|1645|version=SLASH'EM 0.0.7E7F2}}{{refsrc|artifact.c|1667|version=SLASH'EM 0.0.7E7F2}}
-Attempting to [[eat]] The Hand of Vecna (or any severed hand) will bring up a prompt asking if you are sure you want to do so.{{refsrc|eat.c|2390|version=SLASH'EM 0.0.7E7F2}} If a character eats The Hand of Vecna, they take 150-199 damage.{{refsrc|eat.c|2128|version=SLASH'EM 0.0.7E7F2}} You can also [[sacrifice]] The Hand of Vecna at an altar at any time; doing so is equivalent to sacrificing a very high-level corpse, but otherwise has no special effects.{{refsrc|pray.c|1303|version=SLASH'EM 0.0.7E7F2}}
+Attempting to [[eat]] The Hand of Vecna (or any severed hand) will bring up a prompt asking the player if they are sure they want to do so.{{refsrc|eat.c|2390|version=SLASH'EM 0.0.7E7F2}} If a character eats The Hand of Vecna, they take 150-199 damage.{{refsrc|eat.c|2128|version=SLASH'EM 0.0.7E7F2}} A character can also [[sacrifice]] The Hand of Vecna at an altar, which is equivalent to sacrificing a very high-level corpse with no special effects.{{refsrc|pray.c|1303|version=SLASH'EM 0.0.7E7F2}}
-In Hack'EM, the hand of Vecna weighs 300 [[aum]] unless it is carried by a [[Necromancer]], and Necromancers also do not sustain penalties for invoking the artifact.
+In Hack'EM, the Hand of Vecna weighs 300 [[aum]] unless it is carried by a [[Necromancer]], and Necromancers also do not sustain penalties for invoking the artifact.
 ==Strategy==
-The Hand of Vecna is easily one of the most powerful artifacts in its appearances due to its slotless regeneration and half physical damage, and additionally provides a form of drain resistance to handle the [[level drain]] effects that are much more commonplace. It is generally considered worth the trouble of braving the Chaotic Quest and its nasty undead inhabitants to obtain the Hand: this includes various spellcasters such as [[Master lich|master]] and [[arch-liches]], [[ghoul mage]]s, [[Vampire mage (SLASH'EM)|vampire mages]] (the latter of whom are even more dangerous [[Vampire mage (EvilHack)|in Hack'EM]]), and Vecna himself.
+The Hand of Vecna is easily one of the most powerful artifacts in its appearances due to its slotless regeneration and half physical damage, and additionally provides a form of drain resistance to handle the more commonplace [[level drain]] effects. Obtaining the Hand is generally worth the trouble of braving the Chaotic Quest and its nasty undead inhabitants: this includes various spellcasters such as [[Master lich|master]] and [[arch-liches]], [[ghoul mage]]s, [[Vampire mage (SLASH'EM)|vampire mages]] (who are even more dangerous [[Vampire mage (EvilHack)|in Hack'EM]]), and Vecna himself.
-Eating the Hand of Vecna is a potentially fatal [[Bad Idea]], and is generally only likely to happen by mistake. Sacrificing it is similarly unwise unless you truly do not want the artifact, though doing so does not endanger you. It ''can'' be useful to appease an [[angry]] god, but the much less valuable [[Eye of the Beholder]] can be used in the same way, as can various high-level corpses. Be mindful of the inventory letter you use for the item, and avoid speeding through text prompts where possible.
+Eating the Hand of Vecna is a potentially fatal [[Bad Idea]], and is generally only likely to happen by mistake. Sacrificing it poses no risk to the character, but is similarly unwise unless the player truly does not want the artifact - while it ''can'' be useful to appease an [[angry]] god, the much less valuable [[Eye of the Beholder]] can be used in the same way, as can various high-level corpses. Be mindful of the inventory letter used for the item, and avoid speeding through text prompts where possible.
 ==History==

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 The Hand of Vecna is easily one of the most powerful artifacts in its appearances due to its slotless regeneration and half physical damage, and additionally provides a form of drain resistance to handle the [[level drain]] effects that are much more commonplace. It is generally considered worth the trouble of braving the Chaotic Quest and its nasty undead inhabitants to obtain the Hand: this includes various spellcasters such as [[Master lich|master]] and [[arch-liches]], [[ghoul mage]]s, [[Vampire mage (SLASH'EM)|vampire mages]] (the latter of whom are even more dangerous [[Vampire mage (EvilHack)|in Hack'EM]]), and Vecna himself.
-Eating the Hand of Vecna is a potentially fatal [[Bad Idea]], and is generally only likely to happen by mistake; sacrificing it is similarly unwise unless you truly do not want the artifact, though doing so does not endanger you. Be mindful of the inventory letter you use for the item, and avoid speeding through text prompts where possible.
+Eating the Hand of Vecna is a potentially fatal [[Bad Idea]], and is generally only likely to happen by mistake. Sacrificing it is similarly unwise unless you truly do not want the artifact, though doing so does not endanger you. It ''can'' be useful to appease an [[angry]] god, but the much less valuable [[Eye of the Beholder]] can be used in the same way, as can various high-level corpses. Be mindful of the inventory letter you use for the item, and avoid speeding through text prompts where possible.
 ==History==

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 While carried, the Hand of Vecna provides [[cold resistance]], [[half physical damage]], and hungerless [[regeneration]]; while wielded, it additionally confers [[drain resistance]]. [[Invoking]] The Hand of Vecna has different effects dependent on your current [[luck]]: if invoked at -10 luck or lower, you take 5-24 damage, and otherwise you generate 4-7 tame non-[[Lich (monster class)|lich]] [[undead]], with a -3 penalty to luck and [[alignment record]] applied regardless of outcome.{{refsrc|artifact.c|1636|version=SLASH'EM 0.0.7E7F2}}{{refsrc|artifact.c|1645|version=SLASH'EM 0.0.7E7F2}}{{refsrc|artifact.c|1667|version=SLASH'EM 0.0.7E7F2}}
-Attempting to [[eat]] The Hand of Vecna (or any severed hand) will bring up a prompt asking if you are sure you want to do so.{{refsrc|eat.c|2390|version=SLASH'EM 0.0.7E7F2}} If a character eats The Hand of Vecna, they take 150-199 damage.{{refsrc|eat.c|2128|version=SLASH'EM 0.0.7E7F2}} You can also [[sacrifice]] The Hand of Vecna at an altar for maximum value.{{refsrc|pray.c|1303|version=SLASH'EM 0.0.7E7F2}}
+Attempting to [[eat]] The Hand of Vecna (or any severed hand) will bring up a prompt asking if you are sure you want to do so.{{refsrc|eat.c|2390|version=SLASH'EM 0.0.7E7F2}} If a character eats The Hand of Vecna, they take 150-199 damage.{{refsrc|eat.c|2128|version=SLASH'EM 0.0.7E7F2}} You can also [[sacrifice]] The Hand of Vecna at an altar at any time; doing so is equivalent to sacrificing a very high-level corpse, but otherwise has no special effects.{{refsrc|pray.c|1303|version=SLASH'EM 0.0.7E7F2}}
 In Hack'EM, the hand of Vecna weighs 300 [[aum]] unless it is carried by a [[Necromancer]], and Necromancers also do not sustain penalties for invoking the artifact.

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   |whenused=[[drain resistance]]
   |whencarried=<ul><li>[[cold resistance]]</li><li>[[half physical damage]]</li><li>hungerless [[regeneration]]</li></ul>
-  |wheninvoked=<ul><li>raise the dead</li><li>damages you at -10 [[luck]] or lower</li><li>-3 luck and -3 to [[alignment record]],<br>regardless of outcome</li></ul>
+  |wheninvoked=<ul><li>raise the dead</li><li>damages you at -10 [[luck]] or lower</li><li>-3 luck and -3 to [[alignment record]],<br>regardless of outcome</li><li>no penalty for [[Necromancer]]s ([[Hack'EM]])</li></ul>
   |cost=700
   |weight=1 or 300, depending on variant
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 Attempting to [[eat]] The Hand of Vecna (or any severed hand) will bring up a prompt asking if you are sure you want to do so.{{refsrc|eat.c|2390|version=SLASH'EM 0.0.7E7F2}} If a character eats The Hand of Vecna, they take 150-199 damage.{{refsrc|eat.c|2128|version=SLASH'EM 0.0.7E7F2}} You can also [[sacrifice]] The Hand of Vecna at an altar for maximum value.{{refsrc|pray.c|1303|version=SLASH'EM 0.0.7E7F2}}
-In Hack'EM, the hand of Vecna weighs 300 [[aum]] unless it is carried by a [[Necromancer]].
+In Hack'EM, the hand of Vecna weighs 300 [[aum]] unless it is carried by a [[Necromancer]], and Necromancers also do not sustain penalties for invoking the artifact.
 ==Strategy==

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 {{message|Creatures from the grave surround you!|The Hand raised the dead upon invoking it.}}
 {{message|You feel the hand scrabbling around inside of you!|You took damage from eating The Hand of Vecna.}}
-{{message|You offer this evil thing to <your god>...|You sacrificed The Hand of Vecna}}.
+{{message|You offer this evil thing to <your god>...|You sacrificed The Hand of Vecna.}}
 ==See also==

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   |base=severed hand
   |glyph=%
-  |affiliation=[[chaotic]]
+  |affiliation=<ul><li>[[chaotic]]</li><li>[[alignment quest]] [[artifact]]s</li><li>[[Vecna]]</li></ul>
   |used=wielded
   |whenused=[[drain resistance]]
   |wheninvoked=<ul><li>raise the dead<br>(-3 [[luck]] and -3 to [[alignment record]])</li><li>damages you at -9 luck or lower</li></ul>
   |cost=700
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 ==Description==
-While carried, the Hand of Vecna provides [[cold resistance]], [[half physical damage]], and hungerless [[regeneration]]; while wielded, it additionally confers [[drain resistance]]. [[Invoking]] The Hand of Vecna has different effects dependent on your current [[luck]]: if invoked at -9 luck or lower, you take 5-24 damage, and otherwise you generate 4-7 tame non-[[Lich (monster class)|lich]] [[undead]], with a -3 penalty to luck and [[alignment record]] applied regardless of outcome.{{refsrc|artifact.c|1636|version=SLASH'EM 0.0.7E7F2}}{{refsrc|artifact.c|1645|version=SLASH'EM 0.0.7E7F2}}{{refsrc|artifact.c|1667|version=SLASH'EM 0.0.7E7F2}}
+While carried, the Hand of Vecna provides [[cold resistance]], [[half physical damage]], and hungerless [[regeneration]]; while wielded, it additionally confers [[drain resistance]]. [[Invoking]] The Hand of Vecna has different effects dependent on your current [[luck]]: if invoked at -10 luck or lower, you take 5-24 damage, and otherwise you generate 4-7 tame non-[[Lich (monster class)|lich]] [[undead]], with a -3 penalty to luck and [[alignment record]] applied regardless of outcome.{{refsrc|artifact.c|1636|version=SLASH'EM 0.0.7E7F2}}{{refsrc|artifact.c|1645|version=SLASH'EM 0.0.7E7F2}}{{refsrc|artifact.c|1667|version=SLASH'EM 0.0.7E7F2}}
 Attempting to [[eat]] The Hand of Vecna (or any severed hand) will bring up a prompt asking if you are sure you want to do so. If a character eats The Hand of Vecna, they take 150-199 damage. You can also [[sacrifice]] The Hand of Vecna at an altar, with no other effect beyond destroying the item.
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 ==Messages==
 {{message|You feel the hand scrabbling around inside of you!|You took damage from eating The Hand of Vecna.}}
 {{message|You offer this evil thing to <your god>...|You sacrificed The Hand of Vecna}}.