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Umbire the Phantom: pothole

2026-07-20T05:54:20Z

pothole

Tomsod: /* Generation */ throne is usually pre-looted

2026-02-11T20:59:12Z

‎Generation: throne is usually pre-looted

Umbire the Phantom: word choice, etc.

2026-02-04T16:00:57Z

word choice, etc.

Phol ende wodan: /* Sitting on a throne */ tableify 3.7 Vlad's throne effects; since a table cannot be put into an upcoming block, create a section for this and put the upcoming block at its top

2026-01-24T13:37:19Z

‎Sitting on a throne: tableify 3.7 Vlad's throne effects; since a table cannot be put into an upcoming block, create a section for this and put the upcoming block at its top

Phol ende wodan: /* Sitting on a throne */ 3.7: wizard mode throne effect selection, stick additional note that I think this page should drop references to 3.4.3 spoiler once 3.7 is out and changes are incorporated

2026-01-23T13:50:31Z

‎Sitting on a throne: 3.7: wizard mode throne effect selection, stick additional note that I think this page should drop references to 3.4.3 spoiler once 3.7 is out and changes are incorporated

Phol ende wodan: /* Court monster probability */ add todo where I argue for deleting this table

2026-01-23T13:42:58Z

‎Court monster probability: add todo where I argue for deleting this table

Umbire the Phantom: /* Sitting on a throne */ update a citation

2025-12-24T00:20:21Z

‎Sitting on a throne: update a citation

Ion frigate: typo

2025-06-05T23:22:25Z

typo

Ion frigate: upcoming for vlad's throne

2025-06-05T23:21:56Z

upcoming for vlad's throne

Umbire the Phantom: potholes et. al.

2024-12-17T14:28:50Z

potholes et. al.

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 ==Kicking a throne==
-It is also possible to #[[kick]] a throne, in the hopes of knocking loose some [[gold]] and valuable [[gem]]s. However, the potential advantages of sitting on a throne far outweigh the benefits of additional treasure.
+It is also possible to [[Kick (command)|kick]] a throne, in the hopes of knocking loose some [[gold]] and valuable [[gem]]s. However, the potential advantages of sitting on a throne far outweigh the benefits of additional treasure.
 If you have negative Luck, or treasure has previously been kicked from the throne, there is a {{frac|3}} chance of destroying the throne, which will [[exercise]] [[dexterity]] and leave behind d200 gold pieces.

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 Half the [[quest]]s have one throne somewhere along the path. Those that have none are the [[Caveman quest]], the [[Monk quest]], the [[Priest quest]], the [[Rogue quest]], the [[Samurai quest]], and the [[Valkyrie quest]].
-[[Sink]]s have a {{frac|4}} chance (25%) of turning into a throne if a [[ring of polymorph]] is dropped on their square.
+[[Sink]]s have a {{frac|4}} chance (25%) of turning into a throne if a [[ring of polymorph]] is dropped on their square.  The throne will be [[#Looting a throne|marked as looted]] unless none of the once-per-sink events (ring, pudding and foocubus) have been triggered.{{refsrc|src/do.c|334|nethack=3.6.7}}
 ==Sitting on a throne==

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 ==Variants==
 ===SLASH'EM===
-In [[SLASH'EM]], [[deepest one]]s and [[Shadow ogre (SLASH'EM)|shadow ogres]] also qualify for the comfort message when sitting on a throne.
+In [[SLASH'EM]], heroes polymorphed into [[Deepest one (SLASH'EM)|deepest ones]] and [[Shadow ogre (SLASH'EM)|shadow ogres]] qualify for the comfort message when sitting on a throne.
 Sitting on a throne can only grant a wish if your Luck is at least 7. If your Luck is not high enough, your Luck will be increased by 5 rather than by 1.

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 You have a nearly {{frac|3|40}} (7.5%) chance of obtaining at least one [[wish]] if you #[[sit]] on a throne until it gets destroyed.<ref>chance destroyed without wish in one #sit: p1 = ({{frac|2|3}}+{{frac|3}}×{{frac|11|13}})×{{frac|3}} = {{frac|37|117}} (nothing+(no wish, no teleport)); chance not destroyed and no wish in one #sit: p2 = ({{frac|2|3}}+{{frac|3}}×{{frac|11|13}})*{{frac|2|3}}+{{frac|3}}×{{frac|13}} = {{frac|77|117}} ((nothing+(no wish, no teleport))+teleport); total chance no wish until destroyed: p3 = p1+p2×p3, p3 = {{frac|37|40}}; so chance of at least one wish: p = 1&minus;p3 = {{frac|3|40}}</ref><ref>point 5. in the "General Wishing Guidelines" section of http://nh.gmuf.com/wish.html</ref>
-{{upcoming|3.7.0|Per {{commit|3fd30c4ec82ffa3a70a1f8e21ecdd6fc421ca572}} [[Vlad the Impaler]]'s throne will only disappear if it gives a wish, guaranteeing it will eventually grant one, but sitting on it can also cause a variety of powerful, unresistable, and mostly negative effects: permanent level drain, cursing containers, intrinsic loss, level teleport to [[vibrating square]] level, summon demons, confused blessed remove curse effect, unresistable polymorph, acid damage, ability shuffle.}}
+===Vlad's throne===
 ==Kicking a throne==

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-{{upcoming|3.7.0|{{message|"Your eyes tingle."|You gained see invisible while blind.}}}}
+{{upcoming|NetHack 3.7.0|The following message is added: {{message|"Your eyes tingle."|You gained see invisible while blind.}}
 Whether anything happens or not, if you are still sitting on the throne (haven't teleported away), there is a {{frac|3}} chance that the throne will then disappear.

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 ==Strategy==

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-If [[shock resistance|shock resistant]], you lose d6 hit points.
+You lose d6 HP if you have [[shock resistance]] and lose d30 HP otherwise, abusing constitution{{refsrc|src/sit.c|172|version=NetHack 3.6.7}}&mdash;items are not affected.
 * ''"An electric shock shoots through your body!"''
 * ''"A massive electric shock shoots through your body!"''
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	You have a nearly {{frac\|3\|40}} (7.5%) chance of obtaining at least one [[wish]] if you #[[sit]] on a throne until it gets destroyed.<ref>chance destroyed without wish in one #sit: p1 = ({{frac\|2\|3}}+{{frac\|3}}×{{frac\|11\|13}})×{{frac\|3}} = {{frac\|37\|117}} (nothing+(no wish, no teleport)); chance not destroyed and no wish in one #sit: p2 = ({{frac\|2\|3}}+{{frac\|3}}×{{frac\|11\|13}})*{{frac\|2\|3}}+{{frac\|3}}×{{frac\|13}} = {{frac\|77\|117}} ((nothing+(no wish, no teleport))+teleport); total chance no wish until destroyed: p3 = p1+p2×p3, p3 = {{frac\|37\|40}}; so chance of at least one wish: p = 1−p3 = {{frac\|3\|40}}</ref><ref>point 5. in the "General Wishing Guidelines" section of http://nh.gmuf.com/wish.html</ref>		You have a nearly {{frac\|3\|40}} (7.5%) chance of obtaining at least one [[wish]] if you #[[sit]] on a throne until it gets destroyed.<ref>chance destroyed without wish in one #sit: p1 = ({{frac\|2\|3}}+{{frac\|3}}×{{frac\|11\|13}})×{{frac\|3}} = {{frac\|37\|117}} (nothing+(no wish, no teleport)); chance not destroyed and no wish in one #sit: p2 = ({{frac\|2\|3}}+{{frac\|3}}×{{frac\|11\|13}})*{{frac\|2\|3}}+{{frac\|3}}×{{frac\|13}} = {{frac\|77\|117}} ((nothing+(no wish, no teleport))+teleport); total chance no wish until destroyed: p3 = p1+p2×p3, p3 = {{frac\|37\|40}}; so chance of at least one wish: p = 1−p3 = {{frac\|3\|40}}</ref><ref>point 5. in the "General Wishing Guidelines" section of http://nh.gmuf.com/wish.html</ref>
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		+	{{upcoming\|3.7.0\|Per {{commit\|3fd30c4ec82ffa3a70a1f8e21ecdd6fc421ca572}} [[Vlad the Imapler]]'s throne will only disappear if it gives a wish, guaranteeing it will eventually grant one, but sitting on it can also cause a variety of powerful, unresistable, and mostly negative effects: permanent level drain, cursing containers, intrinsic loss, level teleport to [[vibrating square]] level, summon demons, confused blessed remove curse effect, unresistable polymorph, acid damage, ability shuffle.}}

	==Kicking a throne==		==Kicking a throne==

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 ==Variants==
 ===SLASH'EM===
-In [[SLASH'EM]], [[Noble]]s, [[deepest one]]s, and [[shadow ogre]]s also qualify for the "You feel very comfortable here" message.
+In [[SLASH'EM]], [[deepest one]]s and [[Shadow ogre (SLASH'EM)|shadow ogres]] also qualify for the comfort message when sitting on a throne.
 Sitting on a throne can only grant a wish if your Luck is at least 7. If your Luck is not high enough, your Luck will be increased by 5 rather than by 1.
 ===SlashTHEM===
-In [[SlashTHEM]], sitting on a throne can unrestrict one of your [[skill]]s (you get to choose which one), similar to being [[gift]]ed an artifact weapon, but this effect can also uniquely unrestrict non-weapon skills like [[spellcasting]] schools. However, another new random effect can strip you of an [[intrinsic]], similar to a [[gremlin]]'s attack.
+In [[SlashTHEM]], sitting on a throne can unrestrict one of your [[skill]]s (you get to choose which one), similar to being [[gift]]ed an artifact weapon, but this effect can also uniquely unrestrict non-weapon skills like [[spellcasting]] schools. However, another new random effect can strip you of an [[intrinsic]], similar to a [[gremlin]]'s attack.<!--check for Noble role message-->
 ===Hack'EM===