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Umbire the Phantom: /* NetHack 3.0 series */ order

2026-07-20T04:00:40Z

‎NetHack 3.0 series: order

Umbire the Phantom: /* Variants */ make bulleted list, add THEM

2026-07-20T03:07:02Z

‎Variants: make bulleted list, add THEM

Umbire the Phantom: and one mystery in particular I've not figured out...

2026-07-20T02:53:42Z

and one mystery in particular I've not figured out...

Umbire the Phantom: think we can ditch the merge template for the time being

2026-07-20T02:48:01Z

think we can ditch the merge template for the time being

Umbire the Phantom: wind down with a list of latest-stable variants that don't change worm teeth materials

2026-07-18T06:10:36Z

wind down with a list of latest-stable variants that don't change worm teeth materials

Umbire the Phantom: /* NetHack 3.2 onward */ pothole

2026-07-18T05:10:01Z

‎NetHack 3.2 onward: pothole

Umbire the Phantom: narrowed down precise versions, there's still more to figure out but having this much squared away is a pretty good position to be in

2026-07-18T05:09:42Z

narrowed down precise versions, there's still more to figure out but having this much squared away is a pretty good position to be in

Umbire the Phantom: tocright for style

2026-07-18T03:40:54Z

tocright for style

Umbire the Phantom: turns out worm tooth got changed to that even earlier... also trawled through objects.c for 3.0 and goodness, they left a lot of gaps until 3.1

2026-07-18T03:40:15Z

turns out worm tooth got changed to that even earlier... also trawled through objects.c for 3.0 and goodness, they left a lot of gaps until 3.1

Umbire the Phantom: start delineating occurrence of undefined material by version and detail accordingly

2026-07-18T00:29:47Z

start delineating occurrence of undefined material by version and detail accordingly

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 * [[ring]]s with the randomized appearance of an "ivory ring"
 </div>
 By [[NetHack 3.0.10]], the list of possible materials is somewhat expanded and more objects are given distinct materials.
 {{todo|Figure out the deal with [[bow]]s, [[arrow]]s and similar items in these versions.}}

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 ==Variants==
-''NetHack'' [[variant]]s based on later versions of the game often change the worm tooth's undefined material, though some that are based on versions prior to NetHack 5.0.0 may retain this.
+''NetHack'' [[variant]]s based on later versions of the game often change the worm tooth's undefined material, though some that are based on versions prior to NetHack 5.0.0 may retain this. The following variants retain the undefined material for the worm tooth:
-[[SLASH'EM]], [[GruntHack]], [[UnNetHack]], [[AceHack]], [[NetHack 4]], [[DynaHack]], [[Fourk]], and [[FIQHack]] all retain the undefined material for the worm tooth.
+* [[SLASH'EM]]
 ==References==

← Older revision		Revision as of 02:53, 20 July 2026
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	The [[worm tooth]] is changed from being a metal item to one made of an undefined material in [[NetHack 3.0.4]].		The [[worm tooth]] is changed from being a metal item to one made of an undefined material in [[NetHack 3.0.4]].
		+
		+	{{todo\|Figure out the deal with [[bow]]s, [[arrow]]s and similar items in these versions.}}

	==NetHack 3.1 series==		==NetHack 3.1 series==

← Older revision		Revision as of 02:48, 20 July 2026
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−	~~{{merge\|[[material]].}}~~
	{{tocright}}		{{tocright}}
	In older versions of ''[[NetHack]]'', it is possible for an [[item]] to have an '''undefined''' [[material]] if the corresponding field for the item's material in its <tt>[[objects.c]]</tt> entry is empty. The undefined material is currently treated as [[flimsy]], [[organic]], and vulnerable to [[erosion]] by burning.		In older versions of ''[[NetHack]]'', it is possible for an [[item]] to have an '''undefined''' [[material]] if the corresponding field for the item's material in its <tt>[[objects.c]]</tt> entry is empty. The undefined material is currently treated as [[flimsy]], [[organic]], and vulnerable to [[erosion]] by burning.

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 ''NetHack'' [[variant]]s based on later versions of the game often change the worm tooth's undefined material, though some that are based on versions prior to NetHack 5.0.0 may retain this.
-[[SLASH'EM]], [[GruntHack]] and [[UnNetHack]] retain the undefined material for the worm tooth.
+[[SLASH'EM]], [[GruntHack]], [[UnNetHack]], [[AceHack]], [[NetHack 4]], [[DynaHack]], [[Fourk]], and [[FIQHack]] all retain the undefined material for the worm tooth.
 ==References==

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 ==NetHack 3.2 onward==
-In [[NetHack 3.2.0]], the randomized appearance of the "ivory ring" is given a material of bone, leaving the worm tooth as the only item with an undefined material.{{refsrc|objects.c|133|nethack=3.2.0}} This would remain the case for the worm tooth as late as [[NetHack 3.6.7]]:{{refsrc|src/objects.c|177|nethack=3.6.7}} [[NetHack 5.0.0]] changes worm teeth to be made of [[bone]] via {{commit|60ec7256ab5ddcaf47ef79aa27b24ab586cccff6}}.{{refsrc|doc/fixes5-0-0.txt|21|nethack=5.0.0}}
+In [[NetHack 3.2.0]], the randomized appearance of the "ivory ring" is given a material of [[bone]], leaving the worm tooth as the only item with an undefined material.{{refsrc|objects.c|133|nethack=3.2.0}} This would remain the case for the worm tooth as late as [[NetHack 3.6.7]]:{{refsrc|src/objects.c|177|nethack=3.6.7}} [[NetHack 5.0.0]] changes worm teeth to be made of bone via {{commit|60ec7256ab5ddcaf47ef79aa27b24ab586cccff6}}.{{refsrc|doc/fixes5-0-0.txt|21|nethack=5.0.0}}
 ==Variants==

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 </div>
-By [[NetHack 3.0.10]], the list of possible materials is somewhat expanded and more objects are given distinct materials. The [[worm tooth]] is changed from being a metal item to one made of an undefined material, and remains undefined in material as late as [[NetHack 3.6.7]]{{refsrc|objects.c|106|nethack=3.1.0}}{{refsrc|src/objects.c|177|nethack=3.6.7}}&mdash;[[NetHack 5.0.0]] changes worm teeth to be made of [[bone]] via {{commit|60ec7256ab5ddcaf47ef79aa27b24ab586cccff6}}.{{refsrc|doc/fixes5-0-0.txt|21|nethack=5.0.0}}
+By [[NetHack 3.0.10]], the list of possible materials is somewhat expanded and more objects are given distinct materials.
 ==NetHack 3.1 series==
-In [[NetHack 3.1.0]], almost all objects have a form of defined material&mdash;the only two exceptions are the worm tooth (as described prior) and the "ivory ring" randomized appearance.{{refsrc|objects.c|106|nethack=3.0.0}}{{refsrc|objects.c|398|nethack=3.0.0}}
+In [[NetHack 3.1.0]], almost all objects have a form of defined material&mdash;the only two exceptions are the worm tooth (as described prior) and the "ivory ring" randomized appearance.{{refsrc|objects.c|106|nethack=3.1.0}}{{refsrc|objects.c|398|nethack=3.1.0}}
 ==Variants==

← Older revision		Revision as of 03:40, 18 July 2026
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	{{merge\|[[material]].}}		{{merge\|[[material]].}}
		+	{{tocright}}
	In older versions of ''[[NetHack]]'', it is possible for an [[item]] to have an '''undefined''' [[material]] if the corresponding field for the item's material in its <tt>[[objects.c]]</tt> entry is empty. The undefined material is currently treated as [[flimsy]], [[organic]], and vulnerable to [[erosion]] by burning.		In older versions of ''[[NetHack]]'', it is possible for an [[item]] to have an '''undefined''' [[material]] if the corresponding field for the item's material in its <tt>[[objects.c]]</tt> entry is empty. The undefined material is currently treated as [[flimsy]], [[organic]], and vulnerable to [[erosion]] by burning.

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 ==NetHack 3.0 series==
-In [[NetHack 3.0.0]], the four broad categories of material are [[glass]], [[wood]], [[metal]], and [[mineral]]{{refsrc|objclass.h|20|nethack=3.0.0}}&mdash;items that are not sorted into these categories, including several non-[[metallic]] items, are instead not defined with a material.
+In [[NetHack 3.0.0]], the four broad categories of material are [[glass]], [[wood]], [[metal]], and [[mineral]]{{refsrc|objclass.h|20|nethack=3.0.0}}&mdash;items that are not sorted into these categories, including several non-[[metallic]] items, are not defined with a material. Items with undefined materials in NetHack 3.0.0 are listed as follows, given in the order that they appear within [[Source:NetHack 3.0.0/objects.c|the full list of objects]]:
 ==NetHack 3.1 series==
-In [[NetHack 3.1.0]], the [[worm tooth]] is changed from being a metal item to one made of an undefined material, and remains undefined in material as late as [[NetHack 3.6.7]]{{refsrc|objects.c|106|nethack=3.1.0}}{{refsrc|src/objects.c|177|nethack=3.6.7}}&mdash;[[NetHack 5.0.0]] changes worm teeth to be made of [[bone]] via {{commit|60ec7256ab5ddcaf47ef79aa27b24ab586cccff6}}.{{refsrc|doc/fixes5-0-0.txt|21|nethack=5.0.0}}
+In [[NetHack 3.1.0]], almost all objects have a form of defined material&mdash;the only two exceptions are the worm tooth (as described prior) and the "ivory ring" randomized appearance.{{refsrc|objects.c|106|nethack=3.0.0}}{{refsrc|objects.c|398|nethack=3.0.0}}
 ==Variants==

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 {{merge|[[material]].}}
-In older versions of ''[[NetHack]]'', it is possible for an [[item]] to have an '''undefined''' [[material]] if the corresponding field for the item's material in its <tt>[[objects.c]]</tt> entry is empty. The undefined material is [[flimsy]], [[organic]] and is vulnerable to [[erosion]] by burning.
+In older versions of ''[[NetHack]]'', it is possible for an [[item]] to have an '''undefined''' [[material]] if the corresponding field for the item's material in its <tt>[[objects.c]]</tt> entry is empty. The undefined material is currently treated as [[flimsy]], [[organic]], and vulnerable to [[erosion]] by burning.
-The [[worm tooth]] is made of an undefined material from [[NetHack 3.1.0]] to [[NetHack 3.6.7]]{{refsrc|objects.c|106|nethack=3.1.0}}{{refsrc|src/objects.c|177|nethack=3.6.7}}&mdash;[[NetHack 5.0.0]] changes worm teeth to be made of [[bone]] via {{commit|60ec7256ab5ddcaf47ef79aa27b24ab586cccff6}}.{{refsrc|doc/fixes5-0-0.txt|21|nethack=5.0.0}}
+==NetHack 3.0 series==
 ==Variants==
-''NetHack'' [[variant]]s often change the worm tooth's material to a defined one, though some that are based on versions prior to NetHack 5.0.0 may retain the undefined material for the worm tooth.
+''NetHack'' [[variant]]s based on later versions of the game often change the worm tooth's undefined material, though some that are based on versions prior to NetHack 5.0.0 may retain this.
 [[SLASH'EM]], [[GruntHack]] and [[UnNetHack]] retain the undefined material for the worm tooth.