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Rules Changes:
* Poison damage onto the player won't be deadly.
* Fire traps just do 6d6 fire damage instead of hurting max HP.
* Exp formulas adjusted. Requirements are similar to FIQHack, but yields have also been adjusted somewhat.
* Max HP and Pw formulas changed. They are now deterministic, and changes to Con and Wis affect them retroactively.
* Because of this, max HP gains from nurse dancing, potions of healing, etc. now have a universal cap of (5 * XL).
* Resistances gained from eating corpses are temporary.
* Scimitar and Saber skills merged into Saber skill.
* Club, Mace, and Morningstar skills merged into Mace skill.
* New skill: Heavy Armor. Increases AC gain from scale mail and heavier, and offsets the weight of body armor.
* Alignment record no longer increases from killing (most) monsters.
* You gain alignment record every 1000 turns spent with positive alignment, no prayer timeout, and no god wrath.
* You can dip into pools in adjacent tiles.

Role/Race changes:
* Female samurai trade their katana for a +1 naginata.
* Valkyries trade their long swords for a spear.
* New race: Kobold. Mediocre stats, but they gain searching at XL4 and flight at XL20. They start with a baby lizard.
* "New" role: Convict, mostly same as the convict patch.

Branch and special floor changes:
* The dungeon is now much shorter; the Sanctum is always Level 35.
* None of the demon lord lairs are guaranteed to spawn.
* Sokoban floors no longer spawn random monsters until they're solved.
* The Oracle now sells enlightenment and object identification.
* Quest requires XL10 instead of XL14.
* New mini-branch: Tomb of the Ancients, a small complex full of mummies, other undead, and the dreaded Khufu.
* Magic chests can be found at Mine's End, Delphi, the Castle, the Tomb, and by the Wizard of Yendor.

Item Changes:
* Object materials system is implemented, similar to Evilhack. Orcs don't hate mithril, and elves cannot handle iron at all.
* Polearms require less skill to attack at angles.
* Speed boots give Fast speed. The wand of speed monster gives temporary Very Fast, like the potion of speed.
* Uncursed spellbooks always warn if too hard to read (like they do for Wizards).
* Successfully using a unicorn horn frequently breaks it at +0, and lowers the enchantment otherwise.
* Scalpels can be applied to (attempt to) cure sickness and sliming at the cost of significant HP.
* Bags of devouring; destroys anything you put in it.
* Robes work as body armor like in Slash'em, and come in magic varieties.
* Magic chests; extremely heavy linked containers that appear in various places for ease of stash management.
* Masks; magic items that indefinitely polymorph you into the creature depicted on them when worn. Uncursed ones often break when removed.

Artifacts:
* Swiftsoles, guaranteed first sacrifice gift for rogues. They're old-style speed boots.
* Book of Exalted Deeds and Book of Vile Darkness, first sacrifice gifts for co-aligned priests. They create altars when read.
* The Longbow of Diana has a +1 multi-shot bonus if the user is a Ranger.
* The Arbalest of Artemis; basically identical to the Longbow of Diana, and replaces it for gnomish rangers.
* Luckblade, the Convict's first sacrifice gift.

Old Monsters:

* Fire, ice, and storm giants are spellcasters attacking with their respective elements.
* Water elementals and gray oozes now have passive rusting attacks.
* Zombies recover when killed. Unlike other variants, they won't infect you with anything (besides food poisoning).
* Elemental spheres explode with actual explosions, and do so when killed.
* The old three nymphs are merged into just "nymph".
* Mind flayers and master mind flayers are now on 'U' instead of 'h'.
* Master liches and arch-liches are no longer valid polymorph forms, so you won't get erased from halfway across the level by a chameleon.
* Mummies now do bad things to you when you kill them. This can include magical damage, attribute loss, and cursing your items.
* Piercers are significantly more accurate with their drop attacks, and hit for double their bite damage with them.
* Quivering blobs are now speed 3 (up from 1), can paralyze with their touch attack, and passively paralyze attackers.
* Centipedes are now speed 8 (up from 4).
* Violet fungi are now sessile, but have a strength-damaging passive attack.
* Krakens are now speed 12 (up from 3).

New Monsters:

* Hellkittens, hellcats, nightcalves, and nightmares; all cousins of the hellhound
* Slime serpents, which spit green slime
* Woolly mammoths, tyrannosaurus rexes, velociraptors, pterodactyls, saber-toothed cats
* Red lights, which make you come to a stop
* A bunch of less fancy critters not worth listing here yet

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 * EV is penalized by being burdened and by wearing heavier body armor.
 * EV is set to 0 if you are asleep, paralyzed, or otherwise cannot move.
 Other Rule Changes:
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 * Levels 18 and up require less experience than vanilla, and can more plausibly be reached by killing monsters.
 * Max HP and Pw formulas changed. They are now deterministic, and changes to Con and Wis affect them retroactively.
 * Starting attributes are lower and they no longer rise with exercise (or abuse), but grow as the player gain levels.
-* Because of this, max HP gains from nurse dancing, potions of healing, etc. now have a universal cap of (5 * XL).
+* Percentile Strength is gone; it now works like other attributes. Royal jelly and giant meat can raise it still, but with lower success rate.
 * Resistances gained from eating corpses are temporary.
 * Alignment record no longer increases from killing (most) monsters.
 * You gain alignment record every 1000 turns spent with positive alignment, no prayer timeout, and no god wrath.
 * You can dip into pools in adjacent tiles.
 * Shopkeepers have caught on after 20 years of being robbed, and won't let pets into their shops anymore. (Unless you're quite sneaky.)
 * Slowness is now a timed status for the player, inflicted by wands of slow monster and some melee attacks.
 * Spellcasting success formula has been overhauled with the intent of being much simpler. Skill is more important, and body armor weight is a large factor.
 * Spellbooks confuse you instead of paralyzing you. Uncursed spellbooks will curse themselves on failed read attempts instead of disintegrating. The backlash effects have been adjusted, and depend in part on your chance to read the book successfully.
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 * Knights are no longer penalized for attacking "fleeing" enemies.
 * New race: Kobold. Poor attribute caps, but they gain searching at XL4 and flight at XL20. They start with a baby lizard.
 * New race: Ogre. Can't wear any cloak, body armor, or shirt, but has enormous max HP.
 * "New" role: Convict, mostly same as the convict patch.
 * New role: Prince/Princess. Internally named Sovereign. Lawful humans only, they are heavily armored, low HP generalists with an affinity for allies.
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 * Swiftsoles, guaranteed first sacrifice gift for rogues. They're old-style speed boots.
 * Luckblade, the Convict's first sacrifice gift.
 * Malpractice, a chaotic always-poisoned knife. First sacrifice gift for Healers.
 * Hauberk of King Lear, a lawful suit of mithril chain mail. Gives regeneration to pets if worn by the player. First sacrifice gift for Sovereign.

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 * Levels 18 and up require less experience than vanilla, and can more plausibly be reached by killing monsters.
 * Max HP and Pw formulas changed. They are now deterministic, and changes to Con and Wis affect them retroactively.
 * Because of this, max HP gains from nurse dancing, potions of healing, etc. now have a universal cap of (5 * XL).
 * Resistances gained from eating corpses are temporary.
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 * New skill: Heavy Armor. Increases AC gain from scale mail and heavier, and offsets the weight of body armor.
 * New skill: Dodging. Increases EV gain with higher Dex. Trained when monsters miss you.
 * Alignment record no longer increases from killing (most) monsters.
 * You gain alignment record every 1000 turns spent with positive alignment, no prayer timeout, and no god wrath.
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 * Spellbooks confuse you instead of paralyzing you. Uncursed spellbooks will curse themselves on failed read attempts instead of disintegrating. The backlash effects have been adjusted, and depend in part on your chance to read the book successfully.
 * Uncursed spellbooks always warn if the chance of successful read isn't 100%.
 Trap changes:
 * Poison gas vents, which produce stinking clouds on those unfortunate enough to step on them.
 * Fire traps just do 6d6 fire damage instead of hurting max HP.
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 * Knights are no longer penalized for attacking "fleeing" enemies.
 * New race: Kobold. Poor attribute caps, but they gain searching at XL4 and flight at XL20. They start with a baby lizard.
 * "New" role: Convict, mostly same as the convict patch.
 * New role: Prince/Princess. Internally named Sovereign. Lawful humans only, they are heavily armored, low HP generalists with an affinity for allies.
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 || [[Kobold]]                      || 16 || 25 || 25 || 16 || 16 || 14
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 * New mini-branch: Tomb of the Ancients, a small complex full of mummies, other undead, and the dreaded Khufu.
 * Magic chests can be found at Mine's End, Delphi, the Castle, the Tomb, and by the Wizard of Yendor.
 * Hell has been remodeled a bit. Generic levels are now cave layouts with lots of lava.
 * The Wizard's Tower has been extracted from Gehennom and is now the Wizard's Realm, a branch modeled after the old static layout.
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 * Wand of displacement, a useful but uncommon wand that swaps the position of the user and the target.
 * Wand of healing, as the spell.
 Artifacts:
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 * Nurses are now peaceful by default, and can be chatted to for various services. They trade their healing punches for various dangerous syringes.
 * Water elementals and gray oozes now have passive rusting attacks.
 * Zombies recover when killed. Unlike other variants, they won't infect you with anything (besides food poisoning).
 * The old three nymphs are merged into just "nymph".
 * Mind flayers and master mind flayers are now on 'U' instead of 'h'.
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 * Do something with Snickersnee so Samurai also has a reasonable first sac gift.
 * Overhaul Caveman quest to be more about dinosaurs. Kobolds get a different quest leader since they're reptiles. Tiamat moves downstairs to hang out with Asmodeus and pals.

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 * AC has been split into EV and AC for both players and monsters. Both count upwards from 0.
 * For an attack to connect, its to-hit roll must match or exceed the target's EV.
-* Monsters now get +1d20 to-hit vs players (instead of vanilla's +10).
+* Instead of getting +10 to-hit against players, monsters swap their d20 for a d40. They also auto-hit if they roll a 39 or 40.
 * Melee attacks that connect have their damage reduced by a random number between the target's AC and 0.
 * Two-handed weapons and some monster attacks count as "breaching" and will reroll the damage reduction check, using the smaller value.
 * AC won't reduce an attack's damage below 1.
 * AC is boosted by all forms of armor except cloaks.
 * EV is boosted by raising your Dex, wearing a high-quality cloak and shield, and by giving gold to priests.
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 * Slowness is now a timed status for the player, inflicted by wands of slow monster and some melee attacks.
 * Spellcasting success formula has been overhauled with the intent of being much simpler. Skill is more important, and body armor weight is a large factor.
 Trap changes:
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 * Fire traps just do 6d6 fire damage instead of hurting max HP.
 * There is now a way to (sort of) disarm both poison and sleeping gas traps.
 Role/Race changes:
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 * New role: Prince/Princess. Internally named Sovereign. Lawful humans only, they are heavily armored, low HP generalists with an affinity for allies.
 * Intelligent humanoids that Sovereigns defeat in melee may be subjugated instead of killed, allowing you to recruit them as pets.
 * Attribute caps have been adjusted and are generally much higher; humans have 20 caps for every attribute.
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 * The dungeon is now much shorter; the Sanctum is always Level 35.
 * Sokoban floors no longer spawn random monsters until they're solved.
 * The Oracle now sells enlightenment and object identification. Her prices are high, but she's also distributed coupons.
 * Quest requires XL10 instead of XL14.
 * Circe has a special level in late Dungeon.
 * New mini-branch: Tomb of the Ancients, a small complex full of mummies, other undead, and the dreaded Khufu.
 * Magic chests can be found at Mine's End, Delphi, the Castle, the Tomb, and by the Wizard of Yendor.
 * Hell has been remodeled a bit. Generic levels are now cave layouts with lots of lava.
 * With the exception of Asmodeus (who now lives at the Vibrating Square), the demon lords are not guaranteed to show up.
 * Dispater now has a lair (which is not in every game). Geryon and Yeenoghu lairs when I get around to it.
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 * Polearms require less skill to attack at angles.
 * Speed boots give Fast speed. The wand of speed monster gives temporary Very Fast, like the potion of speed.
 * Successfully using a unicorn horn frequently breaks it at +0, and lowers the enchantment otherwise.
 * Scalpels can be applied to (attempt to) cure sickness and sliming at the cost of significant HP.
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 * Spellbook of Recall Allies, a level 2 clerical spell that duplicates the magic whistle. Sovereigns start with it.
 * Spellbook of Cloudkill, a level 6 damaging medical spell. Like Fireball, but poison and leaves a 3x3 stinking cloud.
 * Spellbooks of Detect Food and Detect Unseen have been returned to the library.
 * Wand of displacement, a useful but uncommon wand that swaps the position of the user and the target.
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 * Luckblade, the Convict's first sacrifice gift.
 * Malpractice, a chaotic always-poisoned knife. First sacrifice gift for Healers.
-* Hauberk of King Lear, a lawful suit of mithril chain mail. Gives regeneration to wearer and their pets. First sacrifice gift for Sovereign.
+* Hauberk of King Lear, a lawful suit of mithril chain mail. Gives regeneration to pets if worn by the player. First sacrifice gift for Sovereign.
 * Book of Exalted Deeds and Book of Vile Darkness, first sacrifice gifts for lawful and chaotic priests. They create altars when read.
 * The Longbow of Diana has a +1 multi-shot bonus if the user is a Ranger.
 * The Arbalest of Artemis; basically identical to the Longbow of Diana, and replaces it for gnomish rangers.
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 PLANS:
-* Evoker role. Can't learn spells through books, but develops random spells naturally as it levels. Uses a single skill (Evocation) to cast all spells. Might make this a race (Oni) instead.
+* Sovereign's quest needs a lot of polish.
-* Moving the Wizard's Tower out of Gehennom entirely so we can have 3 less maze floors. Also procedurally generate it so it's not the same every time.
+* Evoker's quest needs making entirely.
 * Port over Pirate role and do something to make it more....unique. Pirates are cool but it's kinda missing something I feel.
-* I want all roles to have a guaranteed reasonable first sac gift. Arch, Caveman, Knight, Monk, Ranger, and Tourist are still missing one.
+* I want all roles to have a guaranteed reasonable first sac gift. Arch, Caveman, Monk, Ranger, and Tourist are still missing one.
 * Do something with Snickersnee so Samurai also has a reasonable first sac gift.
 * Overhaul Caveman quest to be more about dinosaurs. Kobolds get a different quest leader since they're reptiles. Tiamat moves downstairs to hang out with Asmodeus and pals.
 * ATMs. These are used to add charges to credit cards (which now function more like debit cards), which can be used at vending machines. You can also use them to convert gems to gold, but if you put glass in one it'll malfunction violently and call the kops on you. They teleport gold to and from a vault outside the dungeon, so purposefully destroying them won't get you any.

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−	~~I'm not sure of the social rules here, so I'm writing this on your page. Maybe it should go somewhere else?~~
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−	But I thought I'd thank you for reverting my change. We are using the "NLE" gym to teach a computer to play Nethack. Our code crashed since I used the wiki's definition of levels and so we got an "index out of range" error when the level showed up at 103. So the problems we are facing are somewhat different than the usual player of the game. (I don't qualify as a player anymore since I haven't ascended in this century. Only back in the rogue days of mid 1980s.)
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		+	I'm not sure of the social rules here, so I'm writing this on your page. Maybe it should go somewhere else?
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		+	But I thought I'd thank you for reverting my change. We are using the "NLE" gym to teach a computer to play Nethack. Our code crashed since I used the wiki's definition of levels and so we got an "index out of range" error when the level showed up at 103. So the problems we are facing are somewhat different than the usual player of the game. (I don't qualify as a player anymore since I haven't ascended in this century. Only back in the rogue days of mid 1980s.)
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 Currently Nameless Variant Changelog:
-Rules Changes:
+Convenient Features:
 * Poison damage onto the player won't be deadly.
-* Fire traps just do 6d6 fire damage instead of hurting max HP.
+* Sleep is much easier to wake from for both players and monsters.
-* Exp formulas adjusted. Requirements are similar to FIQHack, but yields have also been adjusted somewhat.
+* Exp formulas overhauled. Monsters exp yields vary more and generally give more, but early levels require much more experience than vanilla.
 * Max HP and Pw formulas changed. They are now deterministic, and changes to Con and Wis affect them retroactively.
 * Because of this, max HP gains from nurse dancing, potions of healing, etc. now have a universal cap of (5 * XL).
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 * Club, Mace, and Morningstar skills merged into Mace skill.
 * New skill: Heavy Armor. Increases AC gain from scale mail and heavier, and offsets the weight of body armor.
 * Alignment record no longer increases from killing (most) monsters.
 * You gain alignment record every 1000 turns spent with positive alignment, no prayer timeout, and no god wrath.
 * You can dip into pools in adjacent tiles.
 Role/Race changes:
@@ Line 20: / Line 46: @@
 * New race: Kobold. Mediocre stats, but they gain searching at XL4 and flight at XL20. They start with a baby lizard.
 * "New" role: Convict, mostly same as the convict patch.
 Branch and special floor changes:
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 * Magic chests; extremely heavy linked containers that appear in various places for ease of stash management.
 * Masks; magic items that indefinitely polymorph you into the creature depicted on them when worn. Uncursed ones often break when removed.
 Artifacts:
@@ Line 51: / Line 88: @@
 Old Monsters:
-* Fire, ice, and storm giants are spellcasters attacking with their respective elements.
+* Nurses are now peaceful by default, and can be chatted to for various services. They trade their healing punches for various dangerous syringes.
 * Water elementals and gray oozes now have passive rusting attacks.
 * Zombies recover when killed. Unlike other variants, they won't infect you with anything (besides food poisoning).
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 * Violet fungi are now sessile, but have a strength-damaging passive attack.
 * Krakens are now speed 12 (up from 3).
 New Monsters:
 * Hellkittens, hellcats, nightcalves, and nightmares; all cousins of the hellhound
 * Slime serpents, which spit green slime