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Notes about methodical [[extinction]]

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 Basic idea: stay at the top of the dungeon while patiently and systematically wiping out all the species, then stroll through the uninhabited Mazes of Menace with your massive amount of gear.
-Use level drain ("drain life" spell directed at yourself, or toss Stormbringer up in the air) to maintain control over which monsters appear at a time.
+The easiest way to do this is to be a Wizard, especially if you start with a ring of slow digestion. If you don't get that ring, you can usually still survive by eating as many corpses as you can (best to abandon your pet immediately, so it won't eat any of your kills) and praying for sustenance when necessary. Eventually you'll start to stockpile enough food.
-When you cast "create monster" after all monsters of appropriate difficulty are extinct, there is no message but nothing happens. If you cast the spell and you don't see anything appear, check to make sure you didn't get a mimic (sometimes they appear on top of an adjacent object, pretending to be that object) or a centipede or similar hiding under something. Then increase the difficulty by raising your experience level. How to raise your level: blessed Restore Ability brings you back to whatever you drained yourself from. Uncursed or blessed Gain Level obviously also works. Wraith corpses.
+It's also best to have an altar. Sacrifice religiously, and pray every time you get a feeling of reconciliation - this turns the altar into a highly productive spellbook factory, and occasionally lowers your AC or increases your max HP. Altars are also the best way to clear up troll corpses when you get to the point that trolls appear. If you are chaotic, sacrifice all the corpses of your own race. Let the peaceful foocubi wander around on your level and use them to recharge your Power pretty easily whenever it runs out.
-Best to have an altar. Sacrifice religiously and pray every time you get a feeling of reconciliation - this turns the altar into a highly productive spellbook factory, and occasionally lowers your AC. If you've been using level drain, it also sometimes restores a level, so be ready to re-drain yourself. Altars are also the best way to clear up troll corpses when you get to the point that trolls appear.
+It can be helpful to use level drain (if you have the "drain life" spell or if you get Stormbringer from an altar) to maintain control over which monsters appear at a time. Note that if you're also using an altar, altar prayers also sometimes restore a level, so be ready to re-drain yourself. If you don't have the ability to drain your level, you should still have no problem - by the time you reach experience level 13 or so and monsters start getting a little tricky, you will have accumulated a lot of nice defensive items.
-If you are chaotic, sacrifice all the corpses of your own race. Let the peaceful foocubi wander around on your level. Do whatever you want with the other demons, but having those around lets you recharge your Power pretty easily whenever it runs out.
+Another useful spell is of course "create monster", which helps speed up the rate at which you can plow through the species. Again, not a big problem if you don't have it - just keep spamming the "wait a thousand turns" command. If you're standing in a room, the game should automatically make you stop waiting when an enemy enters, so you can deal with it appropriately.
-At low experience levels, you advance pretty quickly just by killing monsters. Go ahead and let yourself get up to where monsters of difficulty 1-4 are showing up all together for the first "tranche" of enemies. If you stay on dungeon level one, that would be XP level 7. There are 59 monster species in that tranche, giving you 7,080 individuals.
+One thing about using spells is that you will probably have to re-learn them several times, as this whole process takes a huge number of turns to complete.
-The next tranche is difficulty 5; 18 species for 2,160 individuals. This tranche includes nymphs. Difficulty 6 is 26 species for 3,120 individuals - this includes lizards and unicorns. Save the horns to polypile magic markers. Difficulty 7 is again 26 species for 3,120 individuals - this includes chickatrices. If you don't already have an icebox by this time, consider wishing for one so you can save the footrice corpses. You can also tame the footrices if you want to get all the peaceful coaligned unicorns out from underfoot without accidentally killing a bunch of the peaceful foocubi (any that do get stoned can be restored with the stone-to-flesh spell).
+You will know that you've wiped out all the monsters in your current difficulty level when "create monster" (spell, wand, or scroll) fails to make anything appear. Note that this does not give any message; just that nothing happens. Check to make sure it didn't summon a monster that you just can't see - an invisible one (if you don't have see invisible), a mimic (sometimes they appear on top of an adjacent object, pretending to be that object), a centipede or similar hiding under something, etc. Once you are confident that everything is actually extinct, it's time to increase the difficulty by either descending lower into the dungeon or raising own your experience level (if you had previously drained it) with a blessed potions of Restore Ability, uncursed or blessed Gain Level, or Wraith corpses.
-Speaking of killing peacefuls, if you want to keep those foocubi peaceful (makes it a lot easier), avoid letting them see you attack another peaceful thing. One way to do that is to build a little boulder house around your altar.
+While you're going through the slog, it's a good idea to pop down to a different dungeon level for a moment every now and then - if the game crashes and needs to be restored, it will restore from the moment you arrived on the current level.
-It can be helpful to dig all the walls out of the entire level and use scrolls and wands to make the whole thing lit.
+I like to leave most of the sessile monsters alone. It makes the killing level feel like a magical garden, filled peaceful coaligned unicorns roaming among exotic fungi and jellies. If I have a ring of slow digestion, I'll also generally save all the lichen corpses and lizard corpses as way of measuring my progress, since I'm generally too lazy to count kills. Unicorn horns are also good to save, both for counting and for polypiling to get magic markers.

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 At low experience levels, you advance pretty quickly just by killing monsters. Go ahead and let yourself get up to where monsters of difficulty 1-4 are showing up all together for the first "tranche" of enemies. If you stay on dungeon level one, that would be XP level 7. There are 59 monster species in that tranche, giving you 7,080 individuals.
-The next tranche is difficulty 5; 18 species for 2,160 individuals. This tranche includes nymphs. Difficulty 6 is 26 species for 3,120 individuals - this includes lizards and unicorns. Save the horns to polypile magic markers. Difficulty 7 is again 26 species for 3,120 individuals - this includes chickatrices. If you don't already have an icebox by this time, consider wishing for one so you can save the footrice corpses. You can also tame the footrices if you want to get all the peaceful coaligned unicorns out from underfoot without accidentally killing a bunch of the peaceful foocubi.
+The next tranche is difficulty 5; 18 species for 2,160 individuals. This tranche includes nymphs. Difficulty 6 is 26 species for 3,120 individuals - this includes lizards and unicorns. Save the horns to polypile magic markers. Difficulty 7 is again 26 species for 3,120 individuals - this includes chickatrices. If you don't already have an icebox by this time, consider wishing for one so you can save the footrice corpses. You can also tame the footrices if you want to get all the peaceful coaligned unicorns out from underfoot without accidentally killing a bunch of the peaceful foocubi (any that do get stoned can be restored with the stone-to-flesh spell).
 Speaking of killing peacefuls, if you want to keep those foocubi peaceful (makes it a lot easier), avoid letting them see you attack another peaceful thing. One way to do that is to build a little boulder house around your altar.
 It can be helpful to dig all the walls out of the entire level and use scrolls and wands to make the whole thing lit.

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 When you cast "create monster" after all monsters of appropriate difficulty are extinct, there is no message but nothing happens. If you cast the spell and you don't see anything appear, check to make sure you didn't get a mimic (sometimes they appear on top of an adjacent object, pretending to be that object) or a centipede or similar hiding under something. Then increase the difficulty by raising your experience level. How to raise your level: blessed Restore Ability brings you back to whatever you drained yourself from. Uncursed or blessed Gain Level obviously also works. Wraith corpses.
-Best to have an altar. Sacrifice religiously and pray every time you get a feeling of reconciliation - this turns the altar into a highly productive spellbook factory, and occasionally lowers your AC. If you've been using level drain, it also sometimes restores a level, so be ready to re-drain yourself.
+Best to have an altar. Sacrifice religiously and pray every time you get a feeling of reconciliation - this turns the altar into a highly productive spellbook factory, and occasionally lowers your AC. If you've been using level drain, it also sometimes restores a level, so be ready to re-drain yourself. Altars are also the best way to clear up troll corpses when you get to the point that trolls appear.
 If you are chaotic, sacrifice all the corpses of your own race. Let the peaceful foocubi wander around on your level. Do whatever you want with the other demons, but having those around lets you recharge your Power pretty easily whenever it runs out.

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−	(~~coming soon~~)	+	Basic idea: stay at the top of the dungeon while patiently and systematically wiping out all the species, then stroll through the uninhabited Mazes of Menace with your massive amount of gear.
		+
		+	Use level drain ("drain life" spell directed at yourself, or toss Stormbringer up in the air) to maintain control over which monsters appear at a time.
		+
		+	When you cast "create monster" after all monsters of appropriate difficulty are extinct, there is no message but nothing happens. If you cast the spell and you don't see anything appear, check to make sure you didn't get a mimic (sometimes they appear on top of an adjacent object, pretending to be that object) or a centipede or similar hiding under something. Then increase the difficulty by raising your experience level. How to raise your level: blessed Restore Ability brings you back to whatever you drained yourself from. Uncursed or blessed Gain Level obviously also works. Wraith corpses.
		+
		+	Best to have an altar. Sacrifice religiously and pray every time you get a feeling of reconciliation - this turns the altar into a highly productive spellbook factory, and occasionally lowers your AC. If you've been using level drain, it also sometimes restores a level, so be ready to re-drain yourself.
		+
		+	If you are chaotic, sacrifice all the corpses of your own race. Let the peaceful foocubi wander around on your level. Do whatever you want with the other demons, but having those around lets you recharge your Power pretty easily whenever it runs out.
		+
		+	At low experience levels, you advance pretty quickly just by killing monsters. Go ahead and let yourself get up to where monsters of difficulty 1-4 are showing up all together for the first "tranche" of enemies. If you stay on dungeon level one, that would be XP level 7. There are 59 monster species in that tranche, giving you 7,080 individuals.
		+
		+	The next tranche is difficulty 5; 18 species for 2,160 individuals. This tranche includes nymphs. Difficulty 6 is 26 species for 3,120 individuals - this includes lizards and unicorns. Save the horns to polypile magic markers. Difficulty 7 is again 26 species for 3,120 individuals - this includes chickatrices. If you don't already have an icebox by this time, consider wishing for one so you can save the footrice corpses. You can also tame the footrices if you want to get all the peaceful coaligned unicorns out from underfoot without accidentally killing a bunch of the peaceful foocubi.
		+
		+	Speaking of killing peacefuls, if you want to keep those foocubi peaceful (makes it a lot easier), avoid letting them see you attack another peaceful thing. One way to do that is to build a little boulder house around your altar.
		+
		+	It can be helpful to dig all the walls out of the entire level and use scrolls and wands to make the whole thing lit.