User:Jonadab/ClassOverhaul - Revision history

Jonadab: Add to design category

2017-08-07T01:22:42Z

Add to design category

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	These are ideas - needs a bit of balancing to weigh what we take away vs what special things he gets. My goal was to think about some way to really make the Caveman radically different than other roles rather than just "Valkryie only harder".		These are ideas - needs a bit of balancing to weigh what we take away vs what special things he gets. My goal was to think about some way to really make the Caveman radically different than other roles rather than just "Valkryie only harder".

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Jonadab: /* SPECIALIST CLASSES */ markup fix

2015-09-24T17:36:54Z

SPECIALIST CLASSES: markup fix

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	=== SPECIALIST CLASSES: These classes are designed around specialist strategies that don't fit neatly into one of the categories above. ~~===~~		=== SPECIALIST CLASSES ===
			These classes are designed around specialist strategies that don't fit neatly into one of the categories above.

	==== '''Avoidance: Archeologist''' ====		==== '''Avoidance: Archeologist''' ====

Jonadab: /* HYBRID CLASSES */ markup fix

2015-09-24T17:35:33Z

HYBRID CLASSES: markup fix

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	=== HYBRID CLASSES: These classes combine the elements of the pure classes in various ways. ~~===~~		=== HYBRID CLASSES ===
			These classes combine the elements of the pure classes in various ways.

	==== '''Melee/Missile Hybrid: Samurai.''' ====		==== '''Melee/Missile Hybrid: Samurai.''' ====

Jonadab: /* PURE CLASSES */ markup fix

2015-09-24T17:35:01Z

PURE CLASSES: markup fix

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	Without even further ado, the archetypes and classes themselves:		Without even further ado, the archetypes and classes themselves:

	=== PURE CLASSES: These classes are meant to play one aspect of the game, and play it well. ~~===~~		=== PURE CLASSES: ===
			These classes are meant to play one aspect of the game, and play it well.

	==== '''Pure Fighter: Valkyrie''' ====		==== '''Pure Fighter: Valkyrie''' ====

Jonadab: /* Alternative Barbarian Proposal (Chris_ANG) */ Fix up wikification.

2015-09-24T17:32:33Z

Alternative Barbarian Proposal (Chris_ANG): Fix up wikification.

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	Chris_ANG proposed that Barbarians are really meant to be the original all-melee best-melee role (what Valk has become), and that Valk were intended as a cold-themed hybrid, with decent melee but also (limited) spellcasting and ranged combat abilities.		Chris_ANG proposed that Barbarians are really meant to be the original all-melee best-melee role (what Valk has become), and that Valk were intended as a cold-themed hybrid, with decent melee but also (limited) spellcasting and ranged combat abilities.

	'''Pure Fighter: Barbarian'''. Relatively little needs to be changed in this case, but melee weapon options should be improved until they are strictly better than for all other roles, including Val and Sam; and spellcasting and ranged combat can be made even worse for Barbarian than they were in previous versions. The new Barbarian epitomizes the melee game. They may now achieve Expert in any of the major melee weapons, including longsword and saber, as well as in two-weapon combat. Additionally, the Barbarian can now be any alignment, for two reasons: it is now intended for new players and will allow them to experiment with the different alignments; and lawful Barbarians can potentially dip for Excalibur. Additionally, Barbarians can now be Dwarves, for the better physical stats, which fits with their melee role.		=== '''Pure Fighter: Barbarian''' ===
			Relatively little needs to be changed in this case, but melee weapon options should be improved until they are strictly better than for all other roles, including Val and Sam; and spellcasting and ranged combat can be made even worse for Barbarian than they were in previous versions. The new Barbarian epitomizes the melee game. They may now achieve Expert in any of the major melee weapons, including longsword and saber, as well as in two-weapon combat. Additionally, the Barbarian can now be any alignment, for two reasons: it is now intended for new players and will allow them to experiment with the different alignments; and lawful Barbarians can potentially dip for Excalibur. Additionally, Barbarians can now be Dwarves, for the better physical stats, which fits with their melee role.

	Alignment: Any.		Alignment: Any.
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	==== '''Hybrid Fighter: Valkyrie''' ====		=== '''Hybrid Fighter: Valkyrie''' ===
	The Valkyrie's melee prowess will be gently nerfed, to make it strictly worse than the new Barbarian; and other capabilities, such as the ability to do limited spellcasting, will be slightly emphasized, particularly with regard to attack magic. It shall now be possible for Valkyries to cast Cone of Cold reasonably. Valkyries have decent ranged combat abilities, clearly better in this regard than Barbarian, but not as good as Samurai (or of course Ranger).		The Valkyrie's melee prowess will be gently nerfed, to make it strictly worse than the new Barbarian; and other capabilities, such as the ability to do limited spellcasting, will be slightly emphasized, particularly with regard to attack magic. It shall now be possible for Valkyries to cast Cone of Cold reasonably. Valkyries have decent ranged combat abilities, clearly better in this regard than Barbarian, but not as good as Samurai (or of course Ranger).

Jonadab: Import the ClassOverhaul proposal, probably the most useful page from the now-defunct NH4 Trac wiki.

2015-09-24T17:30:31Z

Import the ClassOverhaul proposal, probably the most useful page from the now-defunct NH4 Trac wiki.

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