User:PeterGFin - Revision history

PeterGFin: typos

2011-11-08T18:55:06Z

typos

PeterGFin: just scribble so far...

2011-11-06T22:12:31Z

just scribble so far...

PeterGFin: NetHack 'Real Life' £ costs for all items- with breakdown

2011-01-04T18:57:03Z

NetHack 'Real Life' £ costs for all items- with breakdown

PeterGFin: Currently Enjoying...

2010-11-27T23:23:13Z

Currently Enjoying...

PeterGFin at 00:56, 10 January 2010

2010-01-10T00:56:38Z

PeterGFin at 19:01, 21 April 2009

2009-04-21T19:01:37Z

PeterGFin at 12:00, 7 August 2008

2008-08-07T12:00:06Z

Fredil Yupigo: this IS true, right?

2008-02-20T16:16:17Z

this IS true, right?

PeterGFin at 19:42, 24 January 2008

2008-01-24T19:42:33Z

PeterGFin at 10:09, 29 April 2007

2007-04-29T10:09:31Z

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 * Role and race distinctions only affect your starting stats and card draw.
 * Polymorph is vital to keeping you alive when two hits from (e.g.) a fire ray will kill you.
-* The polymorph control system is to roll a D20 for monster class (the higher the better, 20 is free choice), than have a re-roll ability (for a roll of your Charisma or less), and adjustment abilities for that die and the subsequent monster colour die (D6).
+* The polymorph control system is to roll a D20 for monster class (the higher the better, 20 is free choice), then have a re-roll ability (for a roll of your Charisma or less), and adjustment abilities for that die and the subsequent monster colour die (D6).
-* If features the Nethack monsters; but the monsters are YOU- meaning no GM or other control mechanism needed.
+* It features the Nethack monsters; but the monsters are YOU- meaning no GM or other control mechanism needed.
 * Most item cards show randomised items: which are all coloured prominently. Once the item is identified it is publicly known to all via markers on the board edge. The mechanic of just one player knowing items doesn't exist.
 * Wearables are limited to 4; on each corner of your @.
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 * The depth needs increasing, while the number of cards etc needs to go down. While a NetHack aficionado would be interested, the complexity/gameplay payoff isn't high enough at present.
 * Probably needs modifying for print-'n'-play (free). (wearables would be easy in plastic, prone to constant slippage on paper)
-* A possibility is secret factions (Lawful, Neutral and Chaotic) where you have to guess (probe) who is on which side and try to either a/ensure your faction wins or b/every Hacker for themselves but with wrath on co-aligned kills for a cagier game.
+* A possibility is secret factions (Lawful, Neutral and Chaotic) for 4 or more players where you have to guess (probe) who is on which side and try to either a/ensure your faction wins or b/every Hacker for themselves but with wrath on co-aligned kills for a cagier game.
-Others have considered something like '''Yu-Gi-Oh''' but with NetHack monsters: which I think would be relatively easy. (will explain)
+Stat based card games using NetHack monsters would be relatively easy.
 '''Heroquest''' (1986, Amstrad)
 '''d20 3.5'''

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-I, PeterGFin have still never held the [[Amulet of Yendor]]. I have owned Nethack about 3 years. I use NAO Nethack, and NethackQT for the Mac. On this site I'd most like to see pages or notes for all race/role combinations.
+I, PeterGFin have still never held the [[Amulet of Yendor]]. I have owned Nethack about 4 years. I use NAO Nethack, and NethackQT for the Mac. On this site I'd most like to see pages or notes for all race/role combinations.
-==NetHack Real Life Item Costs ==
+== Multiplayer NetHack ==
-As an exercise I counted 384 items (counting all figurines and statues as 1 each). Since I am an Estimator, my starter pricing for reasonable interpretations of all items came to £170,801 (one 54mm scale 'figurine' of your choice, 1zm, 1 scroll, all statues would be POA, +delivery). An Excel file is available for all 383 individual items.
+Multiplayer Nethack get discussed and asked about frequently. I believe that Nethack would work best as a Multiplayer deathmatch, a two player duel, a 2-3 player co-operative or a board game which would need genius design to retain the essence of NetHack.
-{|class="prettytable"
+Inspirations
-!Item Type
-!Total Price
+'''Chaos''' (1985; ZX Spectrum; Games Workshop)
-|-
+Chaos was written to implement a board game that had gotten too complicated. Chaos sees 8 wizards of either computer or player in a free-for-all deathmatch. Emulators and ports are freely available. In its favour as an inspiration
-|All Amulets
+* It is turn based
-|£1,100.00
+* It uses the Lawful/Neutral/Chaotic idea. The spells are aligned rather than the wizards. As low level spells that are Lawful or Chaotic get used, the winds of magic lean towards that alignment; making the more powerful spells easier to cast. Neutral stay the same.
-|-
+* There is a standard combat system. Wizards can summon monsters to fight for them, and attack directly.
-|All Artifacts
-|£20,505.00
+'''Toejam and Earl''' (1990; Mega Drive/Genesis; PUBLISHER)
-|-
+@Play already lists this game as a roguelike-ish game, and its two player ability is unique. This co-op play could be a Simple Matter of Programming: requiring both players to be present to go up or down stairs, waiting for both players input and acting simultaneously, and expanding the #chat command. To balance the massive advantages of the WoUD and teamwork, the game would have to get really hard. The Carrot Man would also be a good addition!
-|Ball and Chain
-|£70.00
+'''Board Game Geek''' (.com)
-|-
+Has over its various forum history gotten about 12-13 thread discussions: including many ambitions to create a board or card game. I have my own not finished (and may never be) or published deathmatch game set in a Big Room or Gnomish Mine, called '''Polymorphitis'''.
-|All Body Armour
+* Role and race distinctions only affect your starting stats and card draw.
-|£86,850.00
+* Polymorph is vital to keeping you alive when two hits from (e.g.) a fire ray will kill you.
-|-
+* The polymorph control system is to roll a D20 for monster class (the higher the better, 20 is free choice), than have a re-roll ability (for a roll of your Charisma or less), and adjustment abilities for that die and the subsequent monster colour die (D6).
-|All Books (includes metal covers as named)
+* If features the Nethack monsters; but the monsters are YOU- meaning no GM or other control mechanism needed.
-|£3,575.00
+* Most item cards show randomised items: which are all coloured prominently. Once the item is identified it is publicly known to all via markers on the board edge. The mechanic of just one player knowing items doesn't exist.
-|-
+* Wearables are limited to 4; on each corner of your @.
-|All Boots
+* You can play Holy Water as a 'power card' to improve certain outcomes, or play Unholy Water to sabotage: this is the only BUC system.
-|£940.00
+* The depth needs increasing, while the number of cards etc needs to go down. While a NetHack aficionado would be interested, the complexity/gameplay payoff isn't high enough at present.
-|-
+* Probably needs modifying for print-'n'-play (free). (wearables would be easy in plastic, prone to constant slippage on paper)
-|All Cloaks
+* A possibility is secret factions (Lawful, Neutral and Chaotic) where you have to guess (probe) who is on which side and try to either a/ensure your faction wins or b/every Hacker for themselves but with wrath on co-aligned kills for a cagier game.
-|£1,915.00
-|-
+Others have considered something like '''Yu-Gi-Oh''' but with NetHack monsters: which I think would be relatively easy. (will explain)
-|All Gems (relatively low sizes and clarities)
-|£10,200.00
+'''Heroquest''' (1986, Amstrad)
-|-
-|All Gems- Glass
+'''d20 3.5'''

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-I, PeterGFin have still never held the [[Amulet of Yendor]]. I have owned Nethack about 3 years. I use NAO Nethack, and NethackQT for the Mac.
+I, PeterGFin have still never held the [[Amulet of Yendor]]. I have owned Nethack about 3 years. I use NAO Nethack, and NethackQT for the Mac. On this site I'd most like to see pages or notes for all race/role combinations.
-On this site I'd most like to see pages or notes for all race/role combinations.
+==NetHack Real Life Item Costs ==
-In Nethack I'd like to see some skills simplification or carry-over. By this I mean when improving my [[dagger]] skill to Expert, maybe my [[knife]] skill could become equivalent to Basic etc.
+{|class="prettytable"
+!Item Type
-Don't be shy about editting my pages- though it would be nice to be told about any major changes.
+!Total Price
+|-
-== Currently Enjoying ==
+|All Amulets
-in my Elven Wizard game...
+|£1,100.00
+|-
-: [[spellbook of charm monster|Making friends]]. As an Elf, you can tame fellow elves and watch them grow (change colour anyway).
+|All Artifacts
-: [[sting|The +6 Sting]]. Especially when it got cursed by a [[lich]], just in time to stop a [[horned devil]] from [[bullwhip|disarming]] me.
+|£20,505.00
-: [[castle|Using the back door]]. It only took [[water walking boots]] a [[helm of telepathy]], several [[spellbook of fireball|fireball spells]] and some [[spellbook of levitation|levitation spells]] to get there.
+|-
-: [[Luck|Karma]]. I'd tamed some of the castle dragons for convenience, but later proceeded to kill two with fireballs (in a Throne room conflict inferno to clear out the level). So when I get to the [[wand of wishing]] at (0:1) charges my wish produced cursed charging scrolls.
+|Ball and Chain

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-I, PeterGFin have still never held the [[Amulet of Yendor]]. I have owned Nethack well over 2 years. I recently switched full time from local machine to NAO Nethack.
+I, PeterGFin have still never held the [[Amulet of Yendor]]. I have owned Nethack about 3 years. I use NAO Nethack, and NethackQT for the Mac.
-On this site I'd most like to see pages or notes for all race/role combinations. Some solid information about the game mechanics of spellcasting would also be helpful.
+On this site I'd most like to see pages or notes for all race/role combinations.
 In Nethack I'd like to see some skills simplification or carry-over. By this I mean when improving my [[dagger]] skill to Expert, maybe my [[knife]] skill could become equivalent to Basic etc.
 Don't be shy about editting my pages- though it would be nice to be told about any major changes.

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-I, PeterGFin am an Elven [[Ranger]]. I just emerged from a Human [[Priest]] phase- I tend to focus on a single role for weeks at a time.
+I, PeterGFin have still never held the [[Amulet of Yendor]]. I have owned Nethack well over 2 years. I recently switched full time from local machine to NAO Nethack.
 On this site I'd most like to see pages or notes for all race/role combinations. Some solid information about the game mechanics of spellcasting would also be helpful.

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 I, PeterGFin am a Human [[Priest]]. I just emerged from a [[Caveman]] phase.
-I have never held the [[Amulet of Yendor]]. I have owned Nethack for around a year.
+I have never held the [[Amulet of Yendor]]. I have owned Nethack well over a year.
 On this site I'd most like to see pages or notes for all race/role combinations. Some solid information about the game mechanics of spellcasting would also be helpful.
-In Nethack I'd like to see some skills simplification or carry-over. By this I mean when improving my [[dagger]] skill to Expert, maybe my [[knife]] skill could become equivalent to Skilled etc.
+In Nethack I'd like to see some skills simplification or carry-over. By this I mean when improving my [[dagger]] skill to Expert, maybe my [[knife]] skill could become equivalent to Basic etc.
 Don't be shy about editting my pages- though it would be nice to be told about any major changes.

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