User:Testbutt/Removables - Revision history

Phol ende wodan: /* Gameplay */ ogresmasher has 25 con and trollsbane prevents troll revival, but giantslayer? if it never appeared again in anyone's game, no one would notice

2021-03-30T16:47:31Z

‎Gameplay: ogresmasher has 25 con and trollsbane prevents troll revival, but giantslayer? if it never appeared again in anyone's game, no one would notice

Testbutt: sam ~= kni

2021-03-30T15:24:25Z

sam ~= kni

Testbutt: this became needlessly contentious, my bad

2021-03-22T06:40:48Z

this became needlessly contentious, my bad

Testbutt: alarm alarm

2021-03-07T02:28:40Z

alarm alarm

Testbutt: /* Things that could be removed from NetHack and (almost) no one would notice */

2021-03-05T20:36:02Z

‎Things that could be removed from NetHack and (almost) no one would notice

Testbutt: /* Gameplay */

2021-03-04T22:25:43Z

‎Gameplay

Testbutt: /* Gameplay */

2021-03-04T22:24:16Z

‎Gameplay

Testbutt: /* Things that could be removed from NetHack and (almost) no one would notice */

2021-03-04T21:54:49Z

‎Things that could be removed from NetHack and (almost) no one would notice

Testbutt: /* Monsters that never have any impact during normal play */

2021-03-04T20:27:56Z

‎Monsters that never have any impact during normal play

Testbutt: /* Things that could be removed from NetHack and (almost) no one would notice */

2021-03-04T20:20:59Z

‎Things that could be removed from NetHack and (almost) no one would notice

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 * **floor spawned** items that spawn on the ground with a chance of 0.5% or less, such as [[CoMR]] and [[WoW]]
 ** (CoMR would still be wishable, found infrequently in the inventories of [[aligned priests]], found on wizard bones, and in shops, etc., and the WoW would still be in the castle and mayyyybe allowed in shops.)
 === Redundant variations ===

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 ** (CoMR would still be wishable, found infrequently in the inventories of [[aligned priests]], found on wizard bones, and in shops, etc., and the WoW would still be in the castle and mayyyybe allowed in shops.)
-=== Redundant variations (thx aosdict) ===
+=== Redundant variations ===
 * Morning stars, ranseurs, guisarmes, etc - any weapon that's effectively identical to other weapons.
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 * only a few price tiers / variations of gems are needed.
 * chests and boxes.
 === Monsters that never have any impact during normal play ===

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	* Sandestins.		* Sandestins.
	* Possibly jellyfish, piranhas.		* Possibly jellyfish, piranhas.
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−	~~=== Dedication ===~~
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−	~~thx aosdict, demo, luxidream, bhaak, kougyouko, and other folks for contributing.~~
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−	~~NB:~~
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−	This page seems to have put a few people up in arms. Note that I didn't say these features '''should''' be removed, only that they '''could''' be removed - and due to the low impact, few would notice the absence. Other options include: making it more reasonable (score), interesting (monster variants), or useful (tin openers). But getting defensive about game features, getting reactionary? Well that hardly helps anyone.
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−	Have no fear. I'm neither a variant dev nor a vanilla dev... I'm not about to come wreck these incredibly boring game features that a few people seem to love. 😉 (that said, maybe a list like this would be useful for the Brevishack variant - it's a novel fork that aims to distill Nethack down to a quick coffeebreak experience!)

← Older revision		Revision as of 02:28, 7 March 2021
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	=== Dedication ===		=== Dedication ===

−	thx aosdict, demo, luxidream, bhaak, kougyouko, and other folks for contributing. ~~add~~ more ~~as you~~ like.	+	thx aosdict, demo, luxidream, bhaak, kougyouko, and other folks for contributing.
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		+	NB:
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		+	This page seems to have put a few people up in arms. Note that I didn't say these features '''should''' be removed, only that they '''could''' be removed - and due to the low impact, few would notice the absence. Other options include: making it more reasonable (score), interesting (monster variants), or useful (tin openers). But getting defensive about game features, getting reactionary? Well that hardly helps anyone.
		+
		+	Have no fear. I'm neither a variant dev nor a vanilla dev... I'm not about to come wreck these incredibly boring game features that a few people seem to love. 😉 (that said, maybe a list like this would be useful for the Brevishack variant - it's a novel fork that aims to distill Nethack down to a quick coffeebreak experience!)

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 * candy bars and fortune cookies both serve as traps for unwary vegans; fortune cookies are mildly interesting.
 * only a few price tiers / variations of gems are needed.
 === Monsters that never have any impact during normal play ===
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 === Dedication ===
-thx aosdict, demo, luxidream, and other folks for contributing. add more as you like.
+thx aosdict, demo, luxidream, bhaak, kougyouko, and other folks for contributing. add more as you like.

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 === Gameplay ===
 * The "sucker" penalty for not wearing armor over your shirt.
 * Extinction counters.

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 * Tin openers.
 * The spells of detect food, cure blindness, and invisibility. Also the scroll of food detection.
-* things that spawn on the ground with a less than 0.5% chance, such as [[CoMR]]
+* **floor spawned** items that spawn on the ground with a chance of 0.5% or less, such as [[CoMR]] and [[WoW]]
-** (it would still be wishable, found infrequently in the inventories of [[aligned priests]], found on wizard bones, and in shops, etc.)
+** (CoMR would still be wishable, found infrequently in the inventories of [[aligned priests]], found on wizard bones, and in shops, etc., and the WoW would still be in the castle and mayyyybe allowed in shops.)
 === Redundant variations (thx aosdict) ===

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 * Extinction counters.
 * Secret doors.
-** (proof of concept: UnNetHack. Players certainly notice secret doors when it's frustrating, but when secret doors are removed, they just play normally without comment.)
+** (proof of concept: UnNetHack. Players do notice frustrating secret doors, but when secret doors don't exist, players simply play normally without comment on the matter.)
 * Tin openers.
 * The spells of detect food, cure blindness, and invisibility. Also the scroll of food detection.

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 * Straw golems.
 * Sandestins.
-* Possibly jellyfish.
+* Possibly jellyfish, piranhas.
 === Dedication ===
 thx aosdict, demo, luxidream, and other folks for contributing. add more as you like.