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<p>Created page with "'''Note on yumi and ya''': Samurai get +1 to-hit, +1 multishot and +1 damage (applied after artifact damage, if any) when firing ya from a yumi. == Early game == === +0 kata..."</p>
<p><b>New page</b></p><div>'''Note on yumi and ya''': Samurai get +1 to-hit, +1 multishot and +1 damage (applied after artifact damage, if any) when firing ya from a yumi.<br />
<br />
== Early game ==<br />
<br />
=== +0 katana ===<br />
<br />
* start str: +0<br />
* basic long sword: +0<br />
* small: 1 / '''5.5''' / 10<br />
* large: 1 / '''6.5''' / 12<br />
<br />
=== +0 wakizashi (short sword) ===<br />
<br />
* start str: +0<br />
* basic short sword: +0<br />
* small: 1 / '''3.5''' / 6<br />
* large: 1 / '''4.5''' / 8<br />
<br />
=== +0 ya (fired from yumi) ===<br />
<br />
* fired: no str bonus<br />
* basic bow: +0<br />
* samurai yumi-and-ya bonus: +1<br />
* samurai multishot: x1 / x1.5 / x2<br />
* 3 / '''9''' / 18<br />
<br />
== Mid game ==<br />
<br />
=== +0 katana ===<br />
<br />
* 18 str: +2<br />
* expert long sword: +2 or +3 (DynaHack)<br />
* subtotal of bonuses: +4 or +5 (DynaHack)<br />
* NetHack<br />
** small: 5 / '''9.5''' / 14<br />
** large: 5 / '''10.5''' / 16<br />
* DynaHack<br />
** small: 6 / '''10.5''' / 15<br />
** large: 6 / '''11.5''' / 17<br />
<br />
=== +0 silver saber ===<br />
<br />
* 18 str: +2<br />
* basic saber: +0<br />
* non-silver: 3 / '''6.5''' / 10<br />
* silver: 4 / '''17''' / 30<br />
<br />
=== +0 ya (fired from yumi) ===<br />
<br />
* fired: no str bonus<br />
* expert bow: +2 or +3 (DynaHack)<br />
* samurai yumi-and-ya bonus: +1<br />
* subtotal of bonuses: +3 or +4 (DynaHack)<br />
* samurai multishot: x1 / x2.5 / x4<br />
* NetHack<br />
** 5 / '''20''' / 44<br />
* DynaHack<br />
** 6 / '''22.5''' / 48<br />
<br />
=== +0 Excalibur ===<br />
<br />
* 18 str: +2<br />
* expert long sword: +2 or +3 (DynaHack)<br />
* subtotal of bonuses: +4 or +5 (DynaHack)<br />
* NetHack<br />
** small: 6 / '''14''' / 22<br />
** large: 6 / '''16''' / 26<br />
* DynaHack<br />
** small: 7 / '''15''' / 23<br />
** large: 7 / '''17''' / 27<br />
<br />
=== +0 Tsurugi of Muramasa ===<br />
<br />
* 18 str: +2 or +4 (x2 two-handed in DynaHack)<br />
* expert two-handed sword: +2 or +3 (DynaHack)<br />
* subtotal of bonuses: +4 or +7 (DynaHack)<br />
* 5% double damage vs. large: x1 / x1.05 / x2<br />
* NetHack<br />
** small: 6 / '''17''' / 28<br />
** large: 8 / '''21''' / 64<br />
* DynaHack<br />
** small: 9 / '''20''' / 31<br />
** large: 11 / '''24.15''' / 70<br />
<br />
=== two-weapon +0 Excalibur, +0 katana ===<br />
<br />
* 18 str: +2<br />
** applied twice for two-weapon<br />
* expert two-weapon, expert long sword: +1 or +2 (DynaHack)<br />
* subtotal of bonuses: +6 or +8 (DynaHack)<br />
* NetHack<br />
** small: 9 / '''21.5''' / 34<br />
** large: 9 / '''24.5''' / 40<br />
* DynaHack<br />
** small: 11 / '''23.5''' / 36<br />
** large: 11 / '''26.5''' / 42<br />
<br />
== Late game ==<br />
<br />
=== +7 katana ===<br />
<br />
* 18/** str: +6<br />
* expert long sword: +2 or +3 (DynaHack)<br />
* subtotal of bonuses: +8 or +9<br />
* NetHack<br />
** small: 16 / '''20.5''' / 25<br />
** large: 16 / '''21.5''' / 27<br />
* DynaHack<br />
** small: 17 / '''21.5''' / 26<br />
** large: 17 / '''22.5''' / 28<br />
<br />
=== +7 silver saber ===<br />
<br />
* 18/** str: +6<br />
* basic saber: +0<br />
* non-silver: 14 / '''17.5''' / 21<br />
* silver: 15 / '''28''' / 41<br />
<br />
=== +7 ya (fired from yumi) ===<br />
<br />
* fired: no str bonus<br />
* expert bow: +2 or +3 (DynaHack)<br />
* samurai yumi-and-ya bonus: +1<br />
* subtotal of bonuses: +3 or +4 (DynaHack)<br />
* samurai multishot: x1 / x2.5 / x4<br />
* NetHack<br />
** 11 / '''35''' / 68<br />
* DynaHack<br />
** 12 / '''37.5''' / 72<br />
<br />
=== +7 silver arrows ===<br />
<br />
* fired: no str bonus<br />
* expert bow: +2 or +3 (DynaHack)<br />
* multishot: x1 / x2 / x3<br />
* NetHack<br />
** unpoisoned/poison-resist<br />
*** non-silver: 10 / '''25''' / 45<br />
*** silver: 11 / '''46''' / 105<br />
** poisoned<br />
*** non-silver: 11 / '''32''' / 63<br />
*** silver: 12 / '''53''' / 123<br />
* DynaHack<br />
** unpoisoned/poison-resist<br />
*** non-silver: 11 / '''27''' / 48<br />
*** silver: 12 / '''48''' / 108<br />
** poisoned<br />
*** non-silver: 12 / '''34''' / 66<br />
*** silver: 13 / '''55''' / 126<br />
<br />
=== +7 Tsurugi of Muramasa ===<br />
<br />
* 18/** str: +6 or +12 (DynaHack)<br />
* expert two-handed sword: +2 or +3 (DynaHack)<br />
* subtotal of bonuses: +8 or +15 (DynaHack)<br />
* 5% double damage vs. large: x1 / x1.05 / x2<br />
* NetHack<br />
** small: 17 / '''28.775''' / 39<br />
** large: 19 / '''31.925''' / 86<br />
* DynaHack<br />
** small: 24 / '''35.775''' / 46<br />
** large: 26 / '''39.275''' / 100<br />
<br />
=== +7 Excalibur ===<br />
<br />
* 18/** str: +6<br />
* expert long sword: +2 or +3 (DynaHack)<br />
* subtotal of bonuses: +8 or +9<br />
* NetHack<br />
** small: 17 / '''25''' / 33<br />
** large: 17 / '''27''' / 37<br />
* DynaHack<br />
** small: 18 / '''26''' / 34<br />
** large: 18 / '''28''' / 38<br />
<br />
=== +7 Grayswandir ===<br />
<br />
* 18/** str: +6<br />
* basic saber: +0<br />
* non-silver: 28 / '''35''' / 42<br />
* silver: 29 / '''45.5''' / 62<br />
<br />
=== two-weapon +7 Excalibur, +7 katana ===<br />
<br />
* 18/** str: +6<br />
** applied twice for two-weapon<br />
* expert two-weapon, expert long sword: +1 or +2 (DynaHack)<br />
* subtotal of bonuses: +14 or +16 (DynaHack)<br />
* NetHack<br />
** small: 31 / '''43.5''' / 56<br />
** large: 31 / '''46.5''' / 34<br />
* DynaHack<br />
** small: 33 / '''45.5''' / 58<br />
** large: 33 / '''48.5''' / 64<br />
<br />
=== two-weapon +7 Excalibur, +7 silver saber ===<br />
<br />
* 18/** str: +6<br />
** applied twice for two-weapon<br />
* expert two-weapon, expert long sword: +1 or +2 (DynaHack)<br />
* expert two-weapon, basic saber: -1<br />
* subtotal of bonuses: +12 or +13 (DynaHack)<br />
* NetHack<br />
** non-silver<br />
*** small: 29 / '''40.5''' / 52<br />
*** large: 29 / '''42.5''' / 56<br />
** silver<br />
*** small: 30 / '''51''' / 72<br />
*** large: 30 / '''53''' / 76<br />
* DynaHack<br />
** non-silver<br />
*** small: 30 / '''41.5''' / 53<br />
*** large: 30 / '''43.5''' / 57<br />
** silver<br />
*** small: 31 / '''52''' / 73<br />
*** large: 31 / '''54''' / 77<br />
<br />
=== two-weapon +7 Grayswandir, +7 katana ===<br />
<br />
* 18/** str: +6<br />
** applied twice for two-weapon<br />
* expert two-weapon, basic saber: -1<br />
* expert two-weapon, expert long sword: +1 or +2 (DynaHack)<br />
* subtotal of bonuses: +12 or +13 (DynaHack)<br />
* NetHack<br />
** non-silver<br />
*** small: 36 / '''47.5''' / 59<br />
*** large: 36 / '''48.5''' / 61<br />
** silver<br />
*** small: 37 / '''58''' / 79<br />
*** large: 37 / '''59''' / 81<br />
* DynaHack<br />
** non-silver<br />
*** small: 37 / '''48.5''' / 60<br />
*** large: 37 / '''49.5''' / 62<br />
** silver<br />
*** small: 38 / '''59''' / 80<br />
*** large: 38 / '''60''' / 82<br />
<br />
=== two-weapon +7 Grayswandir, +7 silver saber ===<br />
<br />
* 18/** str: +6<br />
** applied twice for two-weapon<br />
* expert two-weapon, basic saber: -1<br />
* subtotal of bonuses: +10<br />
* non-silver: 34 / '''44.5''' / 55<br />
* silver: 36 / '''65.5''' / 95<br />
<br />
== Late game damage breakdowns ==<br />
<br />
=== +7 ya fired from a yumi ===<br />
<br />
35:<br />
<br />
* '''+17.5 avg''' from enchantment<br />
** +7 enchantment x2.5 samurai multishot<br />
* '''+10 avg''' from ya base damage<br />
** +4 avg ya base damage x2.5 samurai multishot<br />
* '''+2.5 avg''' from samurai yumi-ya bonus<br />
** +1 bonus x2.5 samurai multishot<br />
* '''+5 avg''' from skill<br />
** +2 from expert bow x2.5 samurai multishot<br />
<br />
=== +7 Tsurugi of Muramasa ===<br />
<br />
28.775/31.925:<br />
<br />
* '''+7''' from enchantment<br />
* '''+6''' from 18/** strength<br />
* '''+8.5/11.5 avg''' from tsurugi base damage<br />
* '''+0.775/0.925 avg''' from Tsurugi of Muramasa 5% x2 dmg vs. large<br />
** 5% chance to double damage from base damage and enchantment (+21.5/24.5) vs. large<br />
* '''+4.5 avg''' from Tsurugi of Muramasa bonus damage<br />
* '''+2''' from expert two-handed sword skill<br />
<br />
=== two-weapon +7 Excalibur and +7 katana ===<br />
<br />
43.5/46.5:<br />
<br />
* '''+14''' from enchantment<br />
* '''+12''' from 18/** strength<br />
** +6 applies to both hits<br />
* '''+10/12 avg''' from Excalibur base damage<br />
* '''+5.5/6.5 avg''' from katana base damage<br />
* '''+2''' from skill<br />
** +1 from expert two-weapon and expert long sword applies for both Excalibur and katana<br />
<br />
=== two-weapon +7 Grayswandir and +7 silver saber ===<br />
<br />
65.5 silver, 44.5 non-silver:<br />
<br />
* '''+21''' from enchantment<br />
** +7 twice from Grayswandir<br />
** +7 from silver saber<br />
* '''+12''' from 18/** strength<br />
** +6 applies for both hits<br />
* '''+21 avg''' from silver<br />
** +10.5 avg silver bonus damage for both hits<br />
* '''+9 avg''' from Grayswandir base damage<br />
** d8 with double damage vs. all<br />
* '''+4.5 avg''' from silver saber base damage<br />
* '''-2''' from skill<br />
** -1 expert two-weapon and basic saber for both hits</div>
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