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<p>Created page with &quot;&#039;&#039;&#039;Note&#039;&#039;&#039;: Tourist strength starts lower than most roles and therefore will almost always be a bit lower on average, meaning slightly lower damage on average in the early and...&quot;</p> <p><b>New page</b></p><div>'''Note''': Tourist strength starts lower than most roles and therefore will almost always be a bit lower on average, meaning slightly lower damage on average in the early and mid game.<br /> <br /> == Early game ==<br /> <br /> === +2 darts (thrown) ===<br /> <br /> * thrown: no str bonus<br /> * basic dart: +0<br /> * multishot: x1 / x1 / x1<br /> * unpoisoned/poison-resist<br /> ** small: 3 / '''4''' / 5<br /> ** large: 3 / '''3.5''' / 4<br /> * poisoned<br /> ** small: 4 / '''7.5''' / 11<br /> ** large: 4 / '''7''' / 10<br /> <br /> === +0 dagger ===<br /> <br /> * start str: +0<br /> * unskilled dagger: -2<br /> * small: 1 / '''1.25''' / 2<br /> * large: 1 / '''1''' / 1<br /> <br /> === +0 short sword ===<br /> <br /> * start str: +0<br /> * unskilled short sword: -2<br /> * small: 1 / '''2''' / 4<br /> * large: 1 / '''2.875''' / 6<br /> <br /> It's worth comparing the unskilled damage here to the regular damage in [[User:tungtn/Physical damage analysis/Common weapon damage]] which shows that advancing to basic to lose the -2 damage from unskilled boosts damage by a lot.<br /> <br /> Tourists in the early game should favor weapons with high damage dice, in whatever form they come, since those weapons are the least impacted by the unskilled -2 damage penalty.<br /> <br /> == Mid game ==<br /> <br /> '''Note''': Using &quot;start str&quot; here instead of &quot;18 str&quot;, since tourists are unlikely to get 18 str by the mid game.<br /> <br /> === +2 darts (thrown) ===<br /> <br /> * thrown: no str bonus<br /> * expert dart: +2 or +3 (DynaHack)<br /> * multishot: x1 / x2 / x3<br /> * NetHack<br /> ** unpoisoned/poison-resist<br /> *** small: 5 / '''12''' / 21<br /> *** large: 5 / '''11''' / 18<br /> ** poisoned (applied after other bonuses/penalties)<br /> *** small: 6 / '''19''' / 39<br /> *** large: 6 / '''18''' / 36<br /> * DynaHack<br /> ** unpoisoned/poison-resist<br /> *** small: 6 / '''14''' / 24<br /> *** large: 6 / '''13''' / 21<br /> ** poisoned (applied after other bonuses/penalties)<br /> *** small: 7 / '''21''' / 42<br /> *** large: 7 / '''20''' / 39<br /> <br /> === +0 daggers (thrown) ===<br /> <br /> * thrown: no str bonus<br /> * expert dagger: +2 or +3 (DynaHack)<br /> * multishot: x1 / x2 / x3<br /> * NetHack<br /> ** small: 3 / '''9''' / 18<br /> ** large: 3 / '''8''' / 15<br /> * DynaHack<br /> ** small: 4 / '''11''' / 21<br /> ** large: 4 / '''10''' / 18<br /> <br /> === +0 dwarvish mattock ===<br /> <br /> * start str: +0 or +0 (x2 two-handed in DynaHack)<br /> * basic pick-axe: +0<br /> * small: 1 / '''6.5''' / 12<br /> * large: 3 / '''11.5''' / 20<br /> <br /> === +0 long sword ===<br /> <br /> * start str: +0<br /> * basic long sword: +0<br /> * small: 1 / '''4.5''' / 8<br /> * large: 1 / '''6.5''' / 12<br /> <br /> === +0 unicorn horn ===<br /> <br /> * start str: +0 or +0 (x2 two-handed in DynaHack)<br /> * skilled unicorn horn: +1<br /> * 2 / '''7.5''' / 13<br /> <br /> === +0 crysknife ===<br /> <br /> * start str: +0<br /> * skilled knife: +1<br /> * 2 / '''6.5''' / 11<br /> <br /> === +0 silver saber (rare!) ===<br /> <br /> * start str: +0<br /> * skilled saber: +1<br /> * non-silver: 2 / '''5.5''' / 9<br /> * silver: 3 / '''16''' / 29<br /> <br /> === two-weapon +0 crysknife, +0 crysknife ===<br /> <br /> * start str: +0<br /> ** applied twice for two-weapon<br /> * skilled two-weapon, skilled knife: +0<br /> * 2 / '''11''' / 20<br /> <br /> === two-weapon +0 silver saber, +0 silver saber (rare!) ===<br /> <br /> * start str: +0<br /> ** applied twice for two-weapon<br /> * skilled two-weapon, skilled saber: +0<br /> * non-silver: 2 / '''9''' / 16<br /> * silver: 4 / '''30''' / 56<br /> <br /> == Late game ==<br /> <br /> === +7 unicorn horn ===<br /> <br /> * 18/** str: +6 or +12 (x2 two-handed in DynaHack)<br /> * skilled unicorn horn: +1<br /> * subtotal of bonuses: +7 or +13 (DynaHack)<br /> * NetHack<br /> ** 15 / '''20.5''' / 26<br /> * DynaHack<br /> ** 21 / '''26.5''' / 32<br /> <br /> === +7 crysknife ===<br /> <br /> * 18/** str: +6<br /> * skilled knife: +1<br /> * subtotal of bonuses: +7<br /> * 15 / '''19.5''' / 24<br /> <br /> === +7 darts (thrown) ===<br /> <br /> * thrown: no str bonus<br /> * expert dart: +2 or +3 (DynaHack)<br /> * multishot: x1 / x2 / x3<br /> * NetHack<br /> ** unpoisoned/poison-resist<br /> *** small: 10 / '''22''' / 36<br /> *** large: 10 / '''21''' / 33<br /> ** poisoned<br /> *** small: 11 / '''29''' / 54<br /> *** large: 11 / '''28''' / 51<br /> * DynaHack<br /> ** unpoisoned/poison-resist<br /> *** small: 11 / '''24''' / 39<br /> *** large: 11 / '''23''' / 36<br /> ** poisoned<br /> *** small: 12 / '''31''' / 57<br /> *** large: 12 / '''30''' / 54<br /> <br /> === +7 silver daggers (thrown, rare!) ===<br /> <br /> * thrown: no str bonus<br /> * expert dagger: +2 or +3 (DynaHack)<br /> * multishot: x1 / x2 / x3<br /> * NetHack<br /> ** non-silver<br /> *** small: 10 / '''23''' / 39<br /> *** large: 10 / '''22''' / 36<br /> ** silver<br /> *** small: 11 / '''44''' / 99<br /> *** large: 11 / '''43''' / 96<br /> * DynaHack<br /> ** non-silver<br /> *** small: 11 / '''25''' / 42<br /> *** large: 11 / '''24''' / 39<br /> ** silver<br /> *** small: 12 / '''46''' / 102<br /> *** large: 12 / '''45''' / 99<br /> <br /> === +7 silver saber ===<br /> <br /> * 18/** str: +6<br /> * skilled saber: +1<br /> * subtotal of bonuses: +7<br /> * non-silver: 15 / '''18.5''' / 22<br /> * silver: 16 / '''29''' / 42<br /> <br /> === two-weapon +7 crysknife, +7 crysknife ===<br /> <br /> * 18/** str: +6<br /> ** applied twice for two-weapon<br /> * skilled two-weapon, skilled knife: +0<br /> * subtotal of bonuses: +12<br /> * 27 / '''31.5''' / 36<br /> <br /> === two-weapon +7 silver saber, +7 silver saber ===<br /> <br /> * 18/** str: +6<br /> ** applied twice for two-weapon<br /> * skilled two-weapon, skilled saber: +0<br /> * subtotal of bonuses: +12<br /> * non-silver: 28 / '''35''' / 42<br /> * silver: 30 / '''56''' / 82<br /> <br /> === two-weapon +7 Grayswandir, +7 silver saber ===<br /> <br /> * 18/** str: +6<br /> ** applied twice for two-weapon<br /> * skilled two-weapon, skilled saber: +0<br /> * subtotal of bonuses: +12<br /> * non-silver: 36 / '''46.5''' / 57<br /> * silver: 38 / '''67.5''' / 97<br /> <br /> == Late game damage breakdowns ==<br /> <br /> === +7 unicorn horn ===<br /> <br /> 20.5:<br /> <br /> * '''+7''' from enchantment<br /> * '''+6''' from 18/** strength<br /> * '''+6.5 avg''' from unicorn horn base damage<br /> * '''+1''' from skilled unicorn horn skill<br /> <br /> === +7 poisoned darts ===<br /> <br /> 29/28 poison, 22/21 poison resist:<br /> <br /> * '''+14 avg''' from enchantment<br /> ** +7 enchantment x2 multishot<br /> * '''+7 avg''' from poison<br /> ** d6 poison x2 multishot<br /> * '''+4/3 avg''' from dart base damage<br /> * '''+4 avg''' from skill<br /> ** +2 from expert dart skill x2 multishot<br /> <br /> === two-weapon +7 Grayswandir, +7 silver saber ===<br /> <br /> 67.5 silver, 46.5 non-silver:<br /> <br /> * '''+21''' from enchantment<br /> ** +7 twice from Grayswandir<br /> ** +7 from silver saber<br /> * '''+12''' from 18/** strength<br /> ** +6 applies for both hits<br /> * '''+21 avg''' from silver<br /> ** +10.5 avg silver bonus damage for both hits<br /> * '''+9 avg''' from Grayswandir base damage<br /> * '''+4.5 avg''' from silver saber base damage<br /> * '''+0''' from skill<br /> ** +0 from skilled two-weapon and skilled saber for both hits</div>

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